Obama is certainly the President.
Good. . .I guess that mean he won without your assistance, but that you at least recognize that he is President.
I never blamed the recession on Obama. I fault some of his policies for making it worse in my opinion, but the recession itself is certainly not Obama's fault.
I always new you were a fair person, even when it goes against your ideology. But I disagree that Obama made it worse. . .and I believe you know better also! What didn't help is all the really bad press he got, and that led to psychological uncertainty through fearmongering.
Actually, the recovery may be slow and weak, but it is happening. . .no thanks to the fearmongers at Fox News and in the GOP! As I said before, people who were gutsy enough to state that their priority was to make Obama fail. . .even before he was sworn in, have done everything they could, even put their country in jeopardy, to make Obama fail. . .but they are failing!
That link did not work, but I am not interested in the overall numbers for Bush's presidency. I am interested in a snapshot of the first two years only. PL stated that Bush turned job growth into job loss..I would like to see the support.
Come on, BigRob. .I know that if you had plugged in "Bikini Graph" in your search engine, you would have found about 15 links that would have worked! I admit, I'm not great with technology (must be my grandma status!), but even I can find many links just by plugging in "Bikini Graph!"
And. . .the bikini graph may not refer to the first 2 years of Bush's presidency, but if we want a "fair competition" between Obama's achievements and Bush's achievements. . .we would HAVE to give Obama 8 full years! And I know that's not what you want!
That is simply not true...in fact, in his 2008 stimulus the "rich" did not get any "stimulus" money under Bush.
You're kidding, right? You mean that the owner of those contracting firms who were given contracts to fix roads, fix bridges, etc. . .are not rich???
You mean to tell me that the owner of all those car ownerships who were able to dump their stock of cars because of the "junker" stimulus are poor people?
So. . . only people making under $100,000 got a stimulus of any kind?
I don't think sooooo!!!! Unless, obviously, you are ONLY talking about the "tax rebates" which is a minimal part of the stimulus (signed by Bush, by the the way. . .so it's not really Obama's stimulus to begin with!)
From MSNBC:
Rebates are to go out beginning in May to taxpayers and low-income people, including seniors living off of Social Security and veterans who depend on disability checks. Businesses would get tax breaks for investing in new plants and equipment.
Most taxpayers will receive a check of up to $600 for individuals and $1,200 for couples from the Internal Revenue Service, with an additional $300 per child. People earning at least $3,000 and those who owe little or no taxes would get $300 for singles, $600 for couples. Those making more than $75,000 and couples with income exceeding $150,000 are to get smaller rebates — $50 less per $1,000 they make over those thresholds.
Obama has not furthered wars...or supported big business? That is news to me. As for Bush not really being elected, I hope you are joking in such a comment.
NO. He has not furthered wars. He has follow a track to get us out of that ridiculous and very expensive Iraq war, and he has followed it (although, prior to November 2, 2008, McCain and Republicans were using fear mongering stating that Obama would cut and run and make us losers in the eyes of the world!. .but NOW, you are looking at Obama's logical, pragmatic, and careful withdrawal as a negative?)
There has been fewer American death in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and the cost of both wars has gone down. What do you want? Fly our troops in the dark of the night, like McCain predicted Obama would do???
If Obama stated on Jan. 21, 2009 that his "recovery" would mean an additional 3-4 trillion in debt, unemployment over 9%, and no plan to contain spending at all...would anyone have supported that?
Well, it depends. . .what was the alternative? NO ONE has come up with an alternative that would have worked better! By the way, the 3-4 trillion additional debt, INCLUDE the stimulus signed by Bush. . .so don't put that on Obama's door step!
It also include the continued Bush tax cuts. . .which were forced down Obama's throat! (and which I still disaprove off!).
Hand on to your fairness. Big Rob. . .
