Mamdani is deluded and crazy but he is relatively sane compared to other democrat politicians now making a name for themselves

[Gabriel_Bell]

God has already done everything for mankind. He gave us His word, He gave us a Savior and He gave us eternal life IF we accept it. I don't see God having to do any more than He already has. Those who reject Him will do so regardless of what He does or does not do, just as there are Trump haters no matter what he does. God didn't have to send Jesus, didn't have to give us the Bible and did not have to grant us eternal life. Mankind could still be offering sacrifices to atone for sins.

When Jesus returns to Earth it won't be as a Savior, teacher, prophet nor servant it will be as a judge. Lame excuses won't help nor work as He will see right through them. As scripture plainly tells us, He will know and judge the heart.

The heart is just a muscle that pumps blood.
The whole idea of going to the temple to make sacrificial offerings of pigeons, lambs, or goats was to provide protein for the priests.

You are ever so confused. There is little in common with what Jesus actually preached, and the nonsense in the Book of Revelation. Jesus was sometimes into love, but there is no love in the Book Revelation, which is the rantings of very sick nasty old coot in a state of dementia.

 

[guitarMan]

You believe BS blindly and have no answers at all. Explain how an illiterate Aramaic -speaking fisherman like Peter could write a Biblical book.

It is simply highly unlikely. I was simply pointing it out.

First off, you assume a whole lot about Peter. Unless you were alive then and knew him personally, your assumptions are not proven in his writings. Second of all, I have never met anyone who accepted salvation nor the Lord "blindly". Last but not least, I'm not sure where you got the notion that Peter was "illiterate" nor that he was only "Aramaic speaking".

What you consider "highly unlikely" is your assumption not fact, not truth, not proven and not evidenced in Peter's writings.

 

[guitarMan]

The heart is just a muscle that pumps blood.
The whole idea of going to the temple to make sacrificial offerings of pigeons, lambs, or goats was to provide protein for the priests.

You are ever so confused. There is little in common with what Jesus actually preached, and the nonsense in the Book of Revelation. Jesus was sometimes into love, but there is no love in the Book Revelation, which is the rantings of very sick nasty old coot in a state of dementia.

Once again, you are making assumptions based upon your perspectives, not facts, not truth and not proven at all. Even if you have a doctorate and medical license you cannot state unequivocally that the heart ONLY "pumps blood", that is merely your assumption. I would also state that your perspective that offerings were to "provide protein for the priests" is also wrong as offerings were burnt up and thus were not able to be consumed for "protein". I believe that the book of Revelation is chock full of love and your outrageous assumption that it is the "sick nasty ramblings of an old coot" applies to your posts not scripture. Your insistence that the book of Revelation doesn't contain any love is as a result of your bias and cynicism showing through.

What I have seen over and over again in my life is that what is inside a person is what manifests itself in their comments and interactions with others. Clearly, you have once again proven that concept to be true.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

First off, you assume a whole lot about Peter. Unless you were alive then and knew him personally, your assumptions are not proven in his writings. Second of all, I have never met anyone who accepted salvation nor the Lord "blindly". Last but not least, I'm not sure where you got the notion that Peter was "illiterate" nor that he was only "Aramaic speaking".

What you consider "highly unlikely" is your assumption not fact, not truth, not proven and not evidenced in Peter's writings.

There was no educational system in Galilee, it is extremely unlikely that Peter spoke only Aramaic or knew how to speak or read Greek. Someone else almost certainly wrote the Biblical book and stuck Peter's name on it.

 

[mark francis]

There was no educational system in Galilee, it is extremely unlikely that Peter spoke only Aramaic or knew how to speak or read Greek. Someone else almost certainly wrote the Biblical book and stuck Peter's name on it.

You seem unqualified to teach Biblical history.

 

[guitarMan]

There was no educational system in Galilee, it is extremely unlikely that Peter spoke only Aramaic or knew how to speak or read Greek. Someone else almost certainly wrote the Biblical book and stuck Peter's name on it.

There you go with generalizations again. Just because you believe that there was no education system, does not mean that there wasn't. I might add that unless you knew him personally, you would have no way of knowing whether he had a mentor who taught him nor whether the Lord Himself instructed him. You are merely speculating based upon your views with absolutely nothing to back up what you are saying other than what you keep insisting. Unless you can produce some evidence, proof, documents which support your view, I am afraid that the evidence does not in any way support your assertions, beliefs nor assumptions.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Get this: JESUS NEVER SPOKE EVEN ONE WORD OF ENGLISH. English did not exist until around the 1400's.

Mark Francis thinks he is educated, but he only speaks one language.
But somehow he thinks that Peter, a fisherman, not only was literate in Aramaic, his native tongue, but also literate in Greek.
Aramaic and Greek are written with entirely different alphabets.

 

[guitarMan]

Get this: JESUS NEVER SPOKE EVEN ONE WORD OF ENGLISH. English did not exist until around the 1400's.

Mark Francis thinks he is educated, but he only speaks one language.
But somehow he thinks that Peter, a fisherman, not only was literate in Aramaic, his native tongue, but also literate in Greek.
Aramaic and Greek are written with entirely different alphabets.

Right, Gabriel has lived for thousands of years so he knows... Why I bet he knew Jesus personally!

 

[guitarMan]

Get this: JESUS NEVER SPOKE EVEN ONE WORD OF ENGLISH. English did not exist until around the 1400's.

Mark Francis thinks he is educated, but he only speaks one language.
But somehow he thinks that Peter, a fisherman, not only was literate in Aramaic, his native tongue, but also literate in Greek.
Aramaic and Greek are written with entirely different alphabets.

So you believe that your God is so puny that He wasn't even able to teach Peter?

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

So you believe that your God is so puny that He wasn't even able to teach Peter?

Why call this character "My God"? And in the thousand of pages in the Bible, it is nowhere mentioned that "God" taught anyone a language.

The authorship of most of the books of the Bible is unknown. There were hundreds of tales circulating in those times about the coming of a Messiah, who would be called "Emmanuel", a name that no one called Jesus during his rather short three year preaching period.

The Messiah was suppose to be a spiritual and military leader, like a reincarnation of King David, or more specifically, the mythical vision of a King David.

If the Hebrews were the Chosen People, then why was the New Testament written in Aramaic, the language that nearly all the Jews in Palestine spoke? Or at least Hebrew, which was also written like Aramaic, with the same alphabet?

 

[guitarMan]

Why call this character "My God"? And in the thousand of pages in the Bible, it is nowhere mentioned that "God" taught anyone a language.

The authorship of most of the books of the Bible is unknown. There were hundreds of tales circulating in those times about the coming of a Messiah, who would be called "Emmanuel", a name that no one called Jesus during his rather short three year preaching period.

The Messiah was suppose to be a spiritual and military leader, like a reincarnation of King David, or more specifically, the mythical vision of a King David.

If the Hebrews were the Chosen People, then why was the New Testament written in Aramaic, the language that nearly all the Jews in Palestine spoke? Or at least Hebrew, which was also written like Aramaic, with the same alphabet?

I called "this character" your God because, your "character" in no way, shape nor form is my God nor the God that wrote scripture, created the universe nor formed mankind. I also disagree with you that "the authorship of most of the books of the Bible is unknown", while they may be unknown to you they are widely known in the Bible.

Many people referred to Jesus by many names, Messiah, Rabbi, teacher, Savior of as you referred to Him as a "Character". I don't speak fluent Greek, Aramaic nor Hebrew so, I don't get hung up on what people called him.

Many Jewish leaders wanted a king, a leader, a military leader or a force to be reckoned with. Jesus clearly stated that was NOT why He came. The secular leaders of the day were also very fearful that Jesus would usurp their political power and that the people would follow Jesus instead of them. Many of the so-called "leaders" were making their living off of stealing money from those they considered their underlings, peasants, slaves, etc.

I don't know where you got the notion that the "Hebrews" were the chosen people. Clearly scripture tells us that the Jews were the chosen people. Salvation is freely available to non-Jews but, the "chosen people" are of Jewish ancestry. Just like today, there are/were people who didn't follow, worship or serve the Lord. Some of those people are gentiles and some of those people are Jews.

As far as the Bible not telling us specifically about God teaching anyone, the Bible clearly states that not all of what God/Jesus did is contained in scripture. There are many mysteries of God that are not contained in scripture, that does not mean that they didn't happen. There is clear scriptural evidence that Jesus did teach the disciples MUCH. The Holy Spirit continues to comfort and teach believers to this day as scripture clearly tells us.

The writer's of scripture were human beings. Just because all of scripture is "God breathed" does not mean that scripture was written in a language that was unfamiliar to the writer's. As scripture tells us, God through the Holy Spirit instructed human beings to write down certain things and then those human beings wrote them down, using their own language. Nowadays we have numerous translations of what they wrote down. There is even one passage in the gospels that tells us that if all the acts of Jesus were written down that it would fill volumes.