Michael Moore's Ignorance

[TheFranklinParty]

I guess he's merely got a better-sense of Hi$tory, than you....which would suggest you're "coming from a point of view of ignorance".​

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Maybe he just doesn't appreciate the concept that CEOs have some Divine Right to excessive-compensation.​

Yeah....clowns, like you, are constantly pitching the idea of Public-ownership, right up to the day YOU ca$h-out...with other people's money....and, the game of Mu$ical Inve$tment$ starts all-over-again....​

Yeah.....who'd want to miss-out on THAT??!!!!!​

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Once again, I'm not sure what you are talking about. The article you reference only makes the point that the repeal of regulations contributed heavily to the downturn. OK, but who sponsroed that deregulation? Chris Dodd and Barney Frank were both on the bill and lobbied heavily for it. So, what's your point???

By the way, Michael Moore has used capitalism to finance each of his movies. Huh?

CEO's are paid by the Board of Directors. The money they earn comes out of the pocket of shareholders. If you own stock then go yell at the board at the next shareholder meeting. Other than that it is none of anyone's business what they make. People need to stop being jealous of others wealth or income. Just get over it. Go out, work hard, get a little lucky and create your own fortune. If you don't think it's possible then that is part of the problem.

 

[TheFranklinParty]

By producing a product that has made him wealthy, he is by definition a capitalist. You people who denounce him are just envious of his entrepreneurship. He is a prime example of how hard work pays off with its capitalistic rewards. What the hell you right wingers complaining about?

I'm questioning the fact that he is attacking Wall Street while claiming he doesn't understand stock ownership. It's like having a person who has never played baseball being an umpire or being a food critic but never tasting the food.

 

[TheFranklinParty]

So he's a successful capitalist, but at least he's using his money to ask pertinent questions and poke the other rich people in the eye. He's not just taking the money and running to gated community, he's right here in the thick of the fight.

What fight? He is taking swings at an industry he admits he doesn't understand. What part of this makes sense to you?

Why does anyone need to be poked in the eye? We're not talking about people who got their money handed down to them from their families. People who have worked harder and risked more deserve the benefits of their efforts. If you think differently, then will never agree. Everyone has the opportunity in this country to find success.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Labor Unions were one of the downfalls of the auto industry. along with the steel industry and the textile industry, and I'm sure, there are plenty of others.

People who go into business to make a profit will find labor cheaper somewhere else if it cuts into their profits.

That may sound mean, but it is the truth.

Unions became too greedy, and wanted more and more concessions. Poof- there goes the business.

Imagine what would happen to the remaining industry here, if cap and trade gets passed..

I know damn workers wanting to get paid more, Health care, and all that ...They should be working for penuts with no health care so the CEO and stockholders can have all the money

 

[chestnut]

Labor is simply based on supply and demand. Just because someone decides they need money, and the only means they have to acquire that is to work for someone else, does not necessarily mean they deserver whatever they want.

No one forces them to take the job. They have the choice.

They also have the choice to sacrifice, like many, and start their own business.
(I don't know for how much longer with the dems in charge)

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Labor is simply based on supply and demand. Just because someone decides they need money, and the only means they have to acquire that is to work for someone else, does not necessarily mean they deserver whatever they want.

No one forces them to take the job. They have the choice.

They also have the choice to sacrifice, like many, and start their own business.
(I don't know for how much longer with the dems in charge)

No one forces companies to pay Unions anything...they choose to. They can always choose to not have any workers... It is about supply and Demand....Comapny wants workers...Workers Demand to be paid.

 

[chestnut]

Unions are known for their bullying tactics. That's why many companies don't want to be unionized and that is some are trying to pass the card-check bill.

Unions have probably been one of the biggest causes of Job loss in this country. The unions never get enough. Never!

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Unions are known for their bullying tactics. That's why many companies don't want to be unionized and that is some are trying to pass the card-check bill.

Unions have probably been one of the biggest causes of Job loss in this country. The unions never get enough. Never!

Companies would never bully workers around,,,,,noooooooo

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

What fight? He is taking swings at an industry he admits he doesn't understand. What part of this makes sense to you?

Why does anyone need to be poked in the eye? We're not talking about people who got their money handed down to them from their families. People who have worked harder and risked more deserve the benefits of their efforts. If you think differently, then will never agree. Everyone has the opportunity in this country to find success.

How about thieves? Do they deserve what they steal? The Banking industry managed to buy its way into deregulation and then abused the system so badly that they brought their house down on their own heads, then they got a socialistic government bailout of billions of tax dollars. Those people don't deserve our tax money, they deserve a poke in the eye.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Unions are known for their bullying tactics. That's why many companies don't want to be unionized and that is some are trying to pass the card-check bill.

Unions have probably been one of the biggest causes of Job loss in this country. The unions never get enough. Never!

You need to read some labor history, you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[AtheismIsReality]

Everyone is a capitalist until they run into competition, then the government needs to step in.

It's fun to compete until you find someone who can beat you. The government has to step in and "protect" jobs. Protectionism is not capitalism, as the private decision has been superseded by the pubic decision.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

What the hell you right wingers complaining about?

...That it's not likely Sarah Palin will ever get a movie-deal, is my guess.

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Karma Time is coming.....​

"With the public backlash against exce$$ive compen$ation growing, combined with a growing realization that it may have contributed to the problems that caused the recession, the Supreme Court may be inclined to agree with the public.http://www.bankinvestmentconsultant.com/news/backlash-excessive-compensation-fee-case-2663633-1.html"

 

[samsara15]

How about thieves? Do they deserve what they steal? The Banking industry managed to buy its way into deregulation and then abused the system so badly that they brought their house down on their own heads, then they got a socialistic government bailout of billions of tax dollars. Those people don't deserve our tax money, they deserve a poke in the eye.

The banking industry sure pulled off a massive con job, didn't they? They robbed us twice. And they're still laughing at us and setting the stage for the next debacle. Tell me why those geniuses at the Chicago school of economics never saw this coming.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The TRUE FACTS on what and who caused the DESTRUCTION of the AMERICAN AUTO INDUSTRY one only needs to look at the U.A.W.- C.I.O leftist union policies and greed.

What fine bubblehead-rhetoric.



Yeah....let's not blame the Corporate-Bureaucracy and their '50s-style THE CEO KNOWS BEST!!-mentality, for ruining most of America's manufacturing-industry!!!!!

"In the late 1930s, Deming, a professor of statistics at New York University, developed the so-called "statistical process control," a philosophy that would revolutionize car production using statistics as a tool to achieve better quality control.

Essentially, his idea was to record the number of product defects, analyze why they happened, institute changes and then record how much quality improved. The essence was refining the process until it was done right.

But Deming was misunderstood in America. Considered too much of an educator to help the top-down management style in Detroit, the U.S. auto companies weren't interested in his theories on worker relations and better efficiency.

The rejection led Deming to travel to Japan after World War II where the emerging auto industry accepted and implemented his ideas."

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[Mr. Shaman]

Once again, I'm not sure what you are talking about. The article you reference only makes the point that the repeal of regulations contributed heavily to the downturn. OK, but who sponsroed that deregulation? Chris Dodd and Barney Frank were both on the bill and lobbied heavily for it. So, what's your point???

That people who defend/promote Bill O'Lielly's Spittin' & Sputterin' Rhetoric have always been disingenuous.

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