'Nam

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[Gabriel_Bell]

Vietnam was a horrible mistake.
The US should have learned from it, but didn't.

Iraq 1 and Iraq 2 were also mistakes, and of course, Afghanistan was a 20 year mistake.
It was possible to beat the draft without even going to Sweden or Canada.
I know because I managed to do it.
Eventually, they could not draft enough suckers to fight, and they had to get out.
MacNamara knew it was unwinnable, LBJ knew as well. Then Walter Cronkite spilled the beans, Kent State and Jackson State happened and they ran out of suckers.

 

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Vietnam was a horrible mistake.

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Vietnam Veterans Against The War: THE History Of The U.S. War In Vietnam
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Lt. Col. Anthony Herbert
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"Some years after his retirement from the Army, he was asked in an interview how he felt about leaving the Army after all that had come to pass. He remarked, "If you stick by your guns, if you stand by the truth, you win. I feel good about my time in Vietnam and my time in the Army. As my friend Sgt. Maj. John Bittorie once said, 'There are two kinds of military reputations. One is official and on paper in Washington DC. The other is the one that goes from bar to bar from the mouths of those who served with you there.' That is the only reputation I ever really cared about."

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The lives lost are one thing but it's the reason why which should be remembered.

Typical American invading another country because the govt hate communism.

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If Harry Truman had told Chuck de Gaulle to GO FUCK HIMSELF!!!....that war would never have happened.
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1983
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Vietnam – A Lost Generation
April 25, 2525
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OUTFUCKINSTANDING!!!!!
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Embers Of War
April 30, 2025
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"Fredrik Logevall discussed his 2013 Pulitzer Prize-winning study on the events that led to the Vietnam War. He also discussed the war's legacy on the 50th anniversary of the Fall of Saigon in 1975."

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OUTFUCKINSTANDING!!!!!
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Embers Of War
April 30, 2025
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"Fredrik Logevall discussed his 2013 Pulitzer Prize-winning study on the events that led to the Vietnam War. He also discussed the war's legacy on the 50th anniversary of the Fall of Saigon in 1975."

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Commies and cowards slandered honorable American servicemen for fighting in the Vietnam War.

 

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Commies and cowards slandered honorable American servicemen for fighting in the Vietnam War.

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oooooo....geeeeee....lemme write that one, down.
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"It's the 50th anniversary. There's also some other anniversaries, if we went back 10 more years, to 1965. We would have the decision by Lyndon Johnson. Really a set of decisions but culminating in a decision. To make Vietnam a large scale war for the United States by introducing ground troops. And by launching the Air War 1965. Go back 10 more years, 1955, or let's say 1954 and 1955. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, choosing, to build up after the French had been defeated in the first so-called first Vietnam War, decision by President Eisenhower to build up and sustain a non-communist bastion in the southern part of Vietnam, a fateful decision, I think we can all agree. And then finally 10 more years before that, 1945. The end of the Second World War, at which point, France, having been humiliated by a defeat in 6 weeks at the hands of the Nazis, having lost Indochina to the Japanese, French officials decide in 1945 we're going to reclaim Indochina. And Vietnamese revolutionaries under Ho Chi Minh determined that's not going to happen. We're going to stop you from reclaiming Indochina."

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[mark francis]

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"It's the 50th anniversary. There's also some other anniversaries, if we went back 10 more years, to 1965. We would have the decision by Lyndon Johnson. Really a set of decisions but culminating in a decision. To make Vietnam a large scale war for the United States by introducing ground troops. And by launching the Air War 1965. Go back 10 more years, 1955, or let's say 1954 and 1955. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, choosing, to build up after the French had been defeated in the first so-called first Vietnam War, decision by President Eisenhower to build up and sustain a non-communist bastion in the southern part of Vietnam, a fateful decision, I think we can all agree. And then finally 10 more years before that, 1945. The end of the Second World War, at which point, France, having been humiliated by a defeat in 6 weeks at the hands of the Nazis, having lost Indochina to the Japanese, French officials decide in 1945 we're going to reclaim Indochina. And Vietnamese revolutionaries under Ho Chi Minh determined that's not going to happen. We're going to stop you from reclaiming Indochina."

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Good Americans supported the US military defense of weaker nations against the overflowing flood of enslavement by fascist brutal totalitarian communism, but LBJ seemed more interested in the millions of dollars he looked to reap from his company's no-bid US Navy construction contracts in Vietnam.