Texas_tea
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A leftist status quo supported by both parties!TEA party is a threat to the status quo
A leftist status quo supported by both parties!TEA party is a threat to the status quo
It doesn't matter .... what matters is people are suffering under Obama's Marxist policies ....I wonder how Obamacare did that. It doesn't even go into effect until 2014. And that's only for those who aren't currently covered by their employer.
It's estimated by the CBO that between 79.5 and 108 million people will lose their employer based healthcare come 2015.
One question I do have, when we hear about all these policies being cancelled, like the current number of 5 million. Is that 5 million people or 5 million policies? Big difference.
I wonder how Obamacare did that. It doesn't even go into effect until 2014. And that's only for those who aren't currently covered by their employer.
It's estimated by the CBO that between 79.5 and 108 million people will lose their employer based healthcare come 2015.
One question I do have, when we hear about all these policies being cancelled, like the current number of 5 million. Is that 5 million people or 5 million policies? Big difference.
And, that is somehow that is the employers fault .....Employers are using Obamacare as an excuse to do what they've wanted to do fors ome time now, cancel employee health insurance. If the employee can get it from the state exchange, the reasoning goes, why should we pay for it?
Right ...... because Unions have been so successful in the past ..... shaking down employees for forced payments to the DNC, staging fake protest preventing employees from working, stifling free enterprise, all out thug tactics, etcAll of which simply illustrates the need for strong unions.
I wonder how Obamacare did that. It doesn't even go into effect until 2014. And that's only for those who aren't currently covered by their employer.
It's estimated by the CBO that between 79.5 and 108 million people will lose their employer based healthcare come 2015.
Employers are using Obamacare as an excuse to do what they've wanted to do fors ome time now, cancel employee health insurance. If the employee can get it from the state exchange, the reasoning goes, why should we pay for it?
All of which simply illustrates the need for strong unions.
Unions only bankrupt anybody when management does't manage, when they allow them to have unaffordable benefits. Without the unions, the employees have no voice at all.I don't think you understand how Obamacare is going to impact employers. We're talking about mostly small businesses here. If they provide insurance, the employee won't benefit from the government subsidies, the policies for a small business are going to cost more than what's on the exchanges and the employer would be fined if the employees policy exceeds 9.5% of their income and quite possibly the employee would be taxed as income on the excess. In addition to that, the employer is still going to have to pay $3000 per employee if that employee goes on the exchanges.
Obamacare was designed this way. The left wants a single payer government run system. Good bye insurance companies, good buy free market, good bye free choice and good bye freedom.
And as far as unions go, if you ignore that fact that their benefits are bankrupting city after city, you can bet your last doctor appointment that they will eventually be eased into the mediocre Medicaid system too.
That's why the Unions are such an important part of the Democratic Party ...... to make government less necessaryUnions empower employees and make government less necessary.
That's why the Unions are such an important part of the Democratic Party ...... to make government less necessary
Nah ....I knew you'd like that one.
Say, you haven't actually listened to the mouth noises made by Republicans when they pay lip service to smaller government, have you?
Unions only bankrupt anybody when management does't manage, when they allow them to have unaffordable benefits. Without the unions, the employees have no voice at all.
Unions empower employees and make government less necessary.
Then why is it that government has expanded so ?Unions only bankrupt anybody when management does't manage, when they allow them to have unaffordable benefits. Without the unions, the employees have no voice at all.
Unions empower employees and make government less necessary.
Why not? Unions have lost a lot of membership, after all.Then why is it that government has expanded so ?