what if the tea party was black

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Let’s play a game, shall we? The name of the game is called “Imagine.” The way it’s played is simple: we’ll envision recent happenings in the news, but then change them up a bit. Instead of envisioning white people as the main actors in the scenes we’ll conjure - the ones who are driving the action - we’ll envision black folks or other people of color instead. The object of the game is to imagine the public reaction to the events or incidents, if the main actors were of color, rather than white. Whoever gains the most insight into the workings of race in America, at the end of the game, wins.

So let’s begin.

Imagine that hundreds of black protesters were to descend upon Washington DC and Northern Virginia, just a few miles from the Capitol and White House, armed with AK-47s, assorted handguns, and ammunition. And imagine that some of these protesters —the black protesters — spoke of the need for political revolution, and possibly even armed conflict in the event that laws they didn’t like were enforced by the government? Would these protester — these black protesters with guns — be seen as brave defenders of the Second Amendment, or would they be viewed by most whites as a danger to the republic? What if they were Arab-Americans? Because, after all, that’s what happened recently when white gun enthusiasts descended upon the nation’s capital, arms in hand, and verbally announced their readiness to make war on the country’s political leaders if the need arose.

Imagine that white members of Congress, while walking to work, were surrounded by thousands of angry black people, one of whom proceeded to spit on one of those congressmen for not voting the way the black demonstrators desired. Would the protesters be seen as merely patriotic Americans voicing their opinions, or as an angry, potentially violent, and even insurrectionary mob? After all, this is what white Tea Party protesters did recently in Washington.

Imagine that a rap artist were to say, in reference to a white president: “He’s a piece of **** and I told him to suck on my machine gun.” Because that’s what rocker Ted Nugent said recently about President Obama.

Imagine that a prominent mainstream black political commentator had long employed an overt bigot as Executive Director of his organization, and that this bigot regularly participated in black separatist conferences, and once assaulted a white person while calling them by a racial slur. When that prominent black commentator and his sister — who also works for the organization — defended the bigot as a good guy who was misunderstood and “going through a tough time in his life” would anyone accept their excuse-making? Would that commentator still have a place on a mainstream network? Because that’s what happened in the real world, when Pat Buchanan employed as Executive Director of his group, America’s Cause, a blatant racist who did all these things, or at least their white equivalents: attending white separatist conferences and attacking a black woman while calling her the n-word.

Imagine that a black radio host were to suggest that the only way to get promoted in the administration of a white president is by “hating black people,” or that a prominent white person had only endorsed a white presidential candidate as an act of racial bonding, or blamed a white president for a fight on a school bus in which a black kid was jumped by two white kids, or said that he wouldn’t want to kill all conservatives, but rather, would like to leave just enough—“living fossils” as he called them—“so we will never forget what these people stood for.” After all, these are things that Rush Limbaugh has said, about Barack Obama’s administration, Colin Powell’s endorsement of Barack Obama, a fight on a school bus in Belleville, Illinois in which two black kids beat up a white kid, and about liberals, generally.

Imagine that a black pastor, formerly a member of the U.S. military, were to declare, as part of his opposition to a white president’s policies, that he was ready to “suit up, get my gun, go to Washington, and do what they trained me to do.” This is, after all, what Pastor Stan Craig said recently at a Tea Party rally in Greenville, South Carolina.

Imagine a black radio talk show host gleefully predicting a revolution by people of color if the government continues to be dominated by the rich white men who have been “destroying” the country, or if said radio personality were to call Christians or Jews non-humans, or say that when it came to conservatives, the best solution would be to “hang ‘em high.” And what would happen to any congressional representative who praised that commentator for “speaking common sense” and likened his hate talk to “American values?” After all, those are among the things said by radio host and best-selling author Michael Savage, predicting white revolution in the face of multiculturalism, or said by Savage about Muslims and liberals, respectively. And it was Congressman Culbertson, from Texas, who praised Savage in that way, despite his hateful rhetoric.

Imagine a black political commentator suggesting that the only thing the guy who flew his plane into the Austin, Texas IRS building did wrong was not blowing up Fox News instead. This is, after all, what Anne Coulter said about Tim McVeigh, when she noted that his only mistake was not blowing up the New York Times.

Imagine that a popular black liberal website posted comments about the daughter of a white president, calling her “typical redneck trash,” or a “whore” whose mother entertains her by “making monkey sounds.” After all that’s comparable to what conservatives posted about Malia Obama on freerepublic.com last year, when they referred to her as “ghetto trash.”

Imagine that black protesters at a large political rally were walking around with signs calling for the lynching of their congressional enemies. Because that’s what white conservatives did last year, in reference to Democratic party leaders in Congress.

In other words, imagine that even one-third of the anger and vitriol currently being hurled at President Obama, by folks who are almost exclusively white, were being aimed, instead, at a white president, by people of color. How many whites viewing the anger, the hatred, the contempt for that white president would then wax eloquent about free speech, and the glories of democracy? And how many would be calling for further crackdowns on thuggish behavior, and investigations into the radical agendas of those same people of color?

To ask any of these questions is to answer them. Protest is only seen as fundamentally American when those who have long had the luxury of seeing themselves as prototypically American engage in it. When the dangerous and dark “other” does so, however, it isn’t viewed as normal or natural, let alone patriotic. Which is why Rush Limbaugh could say, this past week, that the Tea Parties are the first time since the Civil War that ordinary, common Americans stood up for their rights: a statement that erases the normalcy and “American-ness” of blacks in the civil rights struggle, not to mention women in the fight for suffrage and equality, working people in the fight for better working conditions, and LGBT folks as they struggle to be treated as full and equal human beings.

And this, my friends, is what white privilege is all about. The ability to threaten others, to engage in violent and incendiary rhetoric without consequence, to be viewed as patriotic and normal no matter what you do, and never to be feared and despised as people of color would be, if they tried to get away with half the **** we do, on a daily basis.

Game Over.

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http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html
 
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Let’s play a game, shall we? The name of the game is called “Imagine.” The way it’s played is simple: we’ll envision recent happenings in the news, but then change them up a bit. Instead of envisioning white people as the main actors in the scenes we’ll conjure - the ones who are driving the action - we’ll envision black folks or other people of color instead. The object of the game is to imagine the public reaction to the events or incidents, if the main actors were of color, rather than white. Whoever gains the most insight into the workings of race in America, at the end of the game, wins.

So let’s begin.

Imagine that hundreds of black protesters were to descend upon Washington DC and Northern Virginia, just a few miles from the Capitol and White House, armed with AK-47s, assorted handguns, and ammunition. And imagine that some of these protesters —the black protesters — spoke of the need for political revolution, and possibly even armed conflict in the event that laws they didn’t like were enforced by the government? Would these protester — these black protesters with guns — be seen as brave defenders of the Second Amendment, or would they be viewed by most whites as a danger to the republic? What if they were Arab-Americans? Because, after all, that’s what happened recently when white gun enthusiasts descended upon the nation’s capital, arms in hand, and verbally announced their readiness to make war on the country’s political leaders if the need arose.

Imagine that white members of Congress, while walking to work, were surrounded by thousands of angry black people, one of whom proceeded to spit on one of those congressmen for not voting the way the black demonstrators desired. Would the protesters be seen as merely patriotic Americans voicing their opinions, or as an angry, potentially violent, and even insurrectionary mob? After all, this is what white Tea Party protesters did recently in Washington.

Imagine that a rap artist were to say, in reference to a white president: “He’s a piece of **** and I told him to suck on my machine gun.” Because that’s what rocker Ted Nugent said recently about President Obama.

Imagine that a prominent mainstream black political commentator had long employed an overt bigot as Executive Director of his organization, and that this bigot regularly participated in black separatist conferences, and once assaulted a white person while calling them by a racial slur. When that prominent black commentator and his sister — who also works for the organization — defended the bigot as a good guy who was misunderstood and “going through a tough time in his life” would anyone accept their excuse-making? Would that commentator still have a place on a mainstream network? Because that’s what happened in the real world, when Pat Buchanan employed as Executive Director of his group, America’s Cause, a blatant racist who did all these things, or at least their white equivalents: attending white separatist conferences and attacking a black woman while calling her the n-word.

Imagine that a black radio host were to suggest that the only way to get promoted in the administration of a white president is by “hating black people,” or that a prominent white person had only endorsed a white presidential candidate as an act of racial bonding, or blamed a white president for a fight on a school bus in which a black kid was jumped by two white kids, or said that he wouldn’t want to kill all conservatives, but rather, would like to leave just enough—“living fossils” as he called them—“so we will never forget what these people stood for.” After all, these are things that Rush Limbaugh has said, about Barack Obama’s administration, Colin Powell’s endorsement of Barack Obama, a fight on a school bus in Belleville, Illinois in which two black kids beat up a white kid, and about liberals, generally.

Imagine that a black pastor, formerly a member of the U.S. military, were to declare, as part of his opposition to a white president’s policies, that he was ready to “suit up, get my gun, go to Washington, and do what they trained me to do.” This is, after all, what Pastor Stan Craig said recently at a Tea Party rally in Greenville, South Carolina.

Imagine a black radio talk show host gleefully predicting a revolution by people of color if the government continues to be dominated by the rich white men who have been “destroying” the country, or if said radio personality were to call Christians or Jews non-humans, or say that when it came to conservatives, the best solution would be to “hang ‘em high.” And what would happen to any congressional representative who praised that commentator for “speaking common sense” and likened his hate talk to “American values?” After all, those are among the things said by radio host and best-selling author Michael Savage, predicting white revolution in the face of multiculturalism, or said by Savage about Muslims and liberals, respectively. And it was Congressman Culbertson, from Texas, who praised Savage in that way, despite his hateful rhetoric.

Imagine a black political commentator suggesting that the only thing the guy who flew his plane into the Austin, Texas IRS building did wrong was not blowing up Fox News instead. This is, after all, what Anne Coulter said about Tim McVeigh, when she noted that his only mistake was not blowing up the New York Times.

Imagine that a popular black liberal website posted comments about the daughter of a white president, calling her “typical redneck trash,” or a “whore” whose mother entertains her by “making monkey sounds.” After all that’s comparable to what conservatives posted about Malia Obama on freerepublic.com last year, when they referred to her as “ghetto trash.”

Imagine that black protesters at a large political rally were walking around with signs calling for the lynching of their congressional enemies. Because that’s what white conservatives did last year, in reference to Democratic party leaders in Congress.

In other words, imagine that even one-third of the anger and vitriol currently being hurled at President Obama, by folks who are almost exclusively white, were being aimed, instead, at a white president, by people of color. How many whites viewing the anger, the hatred, the contempt for that white president would then wax eloquent about free speech, and the glories of democracy? And how many would be calling for further crackdowns on thuggish behavior, and investigations into the radical agendas of those same people of color?

To ask any of these questions is to answer them. Protest is only seen as fundamentally American when those who have long had the luxury of seeing themselves as prototypically American engage in it. When the dangerous and dark “other” does so, however, it isn’t viewed as normal or natural, let alone patriotic. Which is why Rush Limbaugh could say, this past week, that the Tea Parties are the first time since the Civil War that ordinary, common Americans stood up for their rights: a statement that erases the normalcy and “American-ness” of blacks in the civil rights struggle, not to mention women in the fight for suffrage and equality, working people in the fight for better working conditions, and LGBT folks as they struggle to be treated as full and equal human beings.

And this, my friends, is what white privilege is all about. The ability to threaten others, to engage in violent and incendiary rhetoric without consequence, to be viewed as patriotic and normal no matter what you do, and never to be feared and despised as people of color would be, if they tried to get away with half the **** we do, on a daily basis.

Game Over.

source
http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html

More garbage from the whacky left...
 
Some tea party members are black
The tea party is not about color of skin, it's about freedom for all Americans

yea, I know evrytime I see a big photo of a Protest I am always thinking man look at all the black people....look I think I see one in the corner...are there some? sure, but I don't see the black community being a big part of the tea party moment...lets be honest, its mostly white.
 
yea, I know evrytime I see a big photo of a Protest I am always thinking man look at all the black people....look I think I see one in the corner...are there some? sure, but I don't see the black community being a big part of the tea party moment...lets be honest, its mostly white.

Its mostly white true but there are far more black and hispanic people than you realize. Also not all people who support the tea party go to the rally's. I support them but have never been to one.

And you are right that liberals do not look at the pictures and say look at how many black people are there, they just look at the pictures and box everyone up in groups as liberals always do.

I look at the pictures and I see Americans, I wish you could see the same.


also, look at your anti war protests and you will see mostly white people too so go figure! does that mean blacks love war?
 
Its mostly white true but there are far more black and hispanic people than you realize. Also not all people who support the tea party go to the rally's. I support them but have never been to one.

And you are right that liberals do not look at the pictures and say look at how many black people are there, they just look at the pictures and box everyone up in groups as liberals always do.

I look at the pictures and I see Americans, I wish you could see the same.


also, look at your anti war protests and you will see mostly white people too so go figure! does that mean blacks love war?

so when you keep saying liberals do this, liberals do that...and then say "hey just look at the pictures and box everyone up in groups as liberals always do.
"...I must ask, do you know how much of a Hypocrite your being when you say it...does it hit later...or does the irony just wash right past?
 
so when you keep saying liberals do this, liberals do that...and then say "hey just look at the pictures and box everyone up in groups as liberals always do.
"...I must ask, do you know how much of a Hypocrite your being when you say it...does it hit later...or does the irony just wash right past?

I am a hypocrite because I pointed out that anti war people were mostly white too? With the exceptions of the million man march (that was really about 450 thousand) and may 1st illegal immigrant protests, I think that all protesting groups are predominantly white. But I did go look at a bunch of anti war protesting pictures before I made my post because I honestly didn't know or care. It is not my normal habit to look at pictures and group people up.

I am just wondering if the left will use the same rules for themselves as they demand to put on the right. They insinuate that if there are not a certain number of black people arm in arm with any conservative movement then the movement must be racist and against the black person and black people do not agree with the movement. If the left uses these rules against conservatives I don't see why the rules cant be put on them as well.

And if you feel it makes me a hypocrite to try and make the left use their useless pathetic rules on themselves then have at it. But I for one am sick of sitting back watching the left play this stupid game then when its put right back in their faces they cry foul.
 
I am a hypocrite because I pointed out that anti war people were mostly white too? With the exceptions of the million man march (that was really about 450 thousand) and may 1st illegal immigrant protests, I think that all protesting groups are predominantly white. But I did go look at a bunch of anti war protesting pictures before I made my post because I honestly didn't know or care. It is not my normal habit to look at pictures and group people up.

I am just wondering if the left will use the same rules for themselves as they demand to put on the right. They insinuate that if there are not a certain number of black people arm in arm with any conservative movement then the movement must be racist and against the black person and black people do not agree with the movement. If the left uses these rules against conservatives I don't see why the rules cant be put on them as well.

And if you feel it makes me a hypocrite to try and make the left use their useless pathetic rules on themselves then have at it. But I for one am sick of sitting back watching the left play this stupid game then when its put right back in their faces they cry foul.


First, I relay don't care what your point is, if you start complaining about people people all like people in a category...and then blame a group of people for it ( doing just want you are talking about...) does not matter if anti war people are mostly black, or white...Your still being a hypocrite. 2nd...seen many largely black protests against the war...The ones on college campus with a small amount of blacks at the school...yea those are mostly white...like the schools....

also I think its time you just accept some very basic facts....Most Blacks, are on the liberal side,...and liberals...tend to be non tea party people....you can get every black tea party supporter you want...its still going to be a small group...So lets not pretend like there is some hidden groundswell of Black tea party backers....there is not...there are some yes, but not that many.
 
First, I relay don't care what your point is, if you start complaining about people people all like people in a category...and then blame a group of people for it ( doing just want you are talking about...) does not matter if anti war people are mostly black, or white...Your still being a hypocrite. 2nd...seen many largely black protests against the war...The ones on college campus with a small amount of blacks at the school...yea those are mostly white...like the schools....

also I think its time you just accept some very basic facts....Most Blacks, are on the liberal side,...and liberals...tend to be non tea party people....you can get every black tea party supporter you want...its still going to be a small group...So lets not pretend like there is some hidden groundswell of Black tea party backers....there is not...there are some yes, but not that many.

I was not complaining I was stating a fact. Liberals do tend to box people up in groups, Sometimes people can see a different perspective if it is presented to them based on what they agree with rather than what they do not agree with. That was the point of mentioning most anti war protestors were white. By the way I didn't look at college campus pictures, I looked at rally's protests and marches that anyone could attend. Unless of course you do not think black people go down town?

I do not care how many blacks are in the tea party or care about the war. I am not the one who started this thread about "what if the tea party were black" I just replied to the thread.
 
I was not complaining I was stating a fact. Liberals do tend to box people up in groups, Sometimes people can see a different perspective if it is presented to them based on what they agree with rather than what they do not agree with. That was the point of mentioning most anti war protestors were white. By the way I didn't look at college campus pictures, I looked at rally's protests and marches that anyone could attend. Unless of course you do not think black people go down town?

I do not care how many blacks are in the tea party or care about the war. I am not the one who started this thread about "what if the tea party were black" I just replied to the thread.

and I still think its funny when you say "Liberals put people in boxes" as if it never even occurs to you that its just what your doing...so whats the point?
 
and I still think its funny when you say "Liberals put people in boxes" as if it never even occurs to you that its just what your doing...so whats the point?

The point is that I was trying to use liberal logic for the liberal mind to see how stupid the liberal is for thinking what they do.


If liberals think that blacks not going to tea parties in droves mean blacks hate tea parties and all tea party people are racist then the same liberal logic would
have to apply to anti war protests and marches.

sometimes you have to lower yourself to the mental level of your opponent so they can understand.

In the end it does not matter what color anyone is at a tea party or at a anti war protest march but if liberals are going to insist that anyone who advocates for the tea party is racist and blacks just flat out are not with them, then it seems fair that it should be thrown back in their collective faces that everything they accuse the tea party of where blacks are concerned applies to them also in their anti war movement.
 
The point is that I was trying to use liberal logic for the liberal mind to see how stupid the liberal is for thinking what they do.


If liberals think that blacks not going to tea parties in droves mean blacks hate tea parties and all tea party people are racist then the same liberal logic would
have to apply to anti war protests and marches.

sometimes you have to lower yourself to the mental level of your opponent so they can understand.

In the end it does not matter what color anyone is at a tea party or at a anti war protest march but if liberals are going to insist that anyone who advocates for the tea party is racist and blacks just flat out are not with them, then it seems fair that it should be thrown back in their collective faces that everything they accuse the tea party of where blacks are concerned applies to them also in their anti war movement.

Oh Pandy:)....I love that. So well stated.

You see it is difficult for a rational person (aka conservative) to think like a liberal. I do my best, but being irrational (aka liberal) is very difficult for me and most conservatives. This is why we have such difficulty communicating with each other.

They are crazy and we are right. Its just that simple.
 
The point is that I was trying to use liberal logic for the liberal mind to see how stupid the liberal is for thinking what they do.


If liberals think that blacks not going to tea parties in droves mean blacks hate tea parties and all tea party people are racist then the same liberal logic would
have to apply to anti war protests and marches.

sometimes you have to lower yourself to the mental level of your opponent so they can understand.

In the end it does not matter what color anyone is at a tea party or at a anti war protest march but if liberals are going to insist that anyone who advocates for the tea party is racist and blacks just flat out are not with them, then it seems fair that it should be thrown back in their collective faces that everything they accuse the tea party of where blacks are concerned applies to them also in their anti war movement.

Well of course your off base in every way...There is little support by blacks for the tea party movement...sorry to break that to you...and the Racism...has nothing to do with who is not there...but the ideas help by a part of those who are there..
 
Well of course your off base in every way...There is little support by blacks for the tea party movement...sorry to break that to you...and the Racism...has nothing to do with who is not there...but the ideas help by a part of those who are there..

Because there is little support by blacks for the Tea Party the Tea Party must be racist.

So thinks the unthinking or intolerant liberal.

And 2+2=5...
 
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A quote from a black American that is also a member of the Tea Party movement.

"I've been told I hate myself. I've been called an Uncle Tom. I've been told I'm a spook at the door," said Timothy F. Johnson, chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, a group of black conservatives who support free market principles and limited government. "Black Republicans find themselves always having to prove who they are. Because the assumption is the Republican Party is for whites and the Democratic Party is for blacks," he said.

Heres the thing all this talk about different protest groups this and that is nonsense! Plain and simple! The Democrat Party and the Republican Party ,brace yourselves, and lean in close because apparently this is a secret. They are both mainly WHITE!! The difference as I see it is simply one party wants to define and classify Americans by hyphenated race groups and color and the other doesn't. I got news for you, just because I want to recognize Americans as Americans, doesn't make me a racist. If we want people to stop looking at people as a color or race then lets stop lumping them in as a color or race. Yes, be proud of your heritage but you don't live in the past you live now. So if you migrated here legally or born here, congratulations your an American. For the Democrats that want to hijack Dr. King's name how about you live by what he taught and stop looking at color and race. FYI Dr. King was a black Republican party member.
 
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