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Berkeley vs USMC vs Federalism

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by ilikeboobs, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. ilikeboobs

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    So the city of berkeley (lower case was intentional) deems it appropriate to say the US Marine Corps isnt' welcome within city limits. Now members of Congress are chiming in, saying berkeley earmarks should be pulled.

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    The system that permits this sort of retribution is itself an unforgivable violation of the principles of Federalism.

    Why in the world is ANYONE paying TAXES to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT so they can be allocated to LOCAL SCHOOL PROGRAMS? That's an asinine waste of resources. To make matters worse, it is an absolute violation of the Constitution.

    Yes, Berkeley deserves to be ostracized for their hostile stand towards our men and women in uniform. However, we're looking at a system by which taxpayer dollars are dangled inappropriately into matters of State, Local, and Individual responsibility for the purposes of control and manipulation by the National Government. Remember the Federal Government circumventing the Constitution this way to take away the states' rights to assign their own Drinking ages? What about Speed Limits, huh?

    This is a violation of sovereignty and of Federalism itself. This is National Socialism, pure and simple. And it makes me sick.
     
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    Libsmasher New Member

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    The last I read, the libs who run that city are going into full back peddle mode. :D
     
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    USMC the Almighty New Member

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    It's okay. I'm personally suspicious of anyone who enlists from Berkeley or San Francisco anyway. That whole "don't ask, don't tell" thing.
     
  4. Dr.Who

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    I hate how all the power is becoming federalized and I didn't even see it until you mentioned the tie-in here.

    We should all be outraged!!

    "the true theory of our Constitution is surely the wisest and best . . . (for) when all government . . . shall be drawn to Washington as the centre of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as . . . oppressive as the government from which we separated."
    --Thomas Jefferson
     
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    its federal becuse if it was not , and just based on local or state taxes, some states would fair very poorly, and not be able to put the money into schools others do do to $. Then those dumb people will move to good states and suck up our resources...Good thing its -12 in MN, keeps people away.
     
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    But that's the point of federalism, my friend. the states would compete across many different lines - education, welfare, quality of life, taxes, etc. Sure, people in MS might have a horsesh*t school system compared to MN, but that's their problem. The beauty of state's rights is that if you don't like it in MS, you have 49 other options to move to. When the feds are in charge of everything, however, you're F*CKED...because wherever you move to get away from MS, you're going to find the same problems.

    And I'm with you on the temperature - 12 below zero keeps the riff raff out. Except for the riff raff that comes here from indiana and illinois once a month for their welfare checks. don't get me started.
     
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    Right. And to say louder what you have said: competition is always good for America. That is why we have laws against monopolies. Except that the federal government has decided that they alone should be a monopoly.

    When states compete the good things that work will be shown to be useful and other states can emulate them. The bad things will be shown to be ineffective and the other states can avoid them. When the fed does something good or bad we have nothing to compare them to except other countries and often the comparison is apples to oranges.
     
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    We have no one to blame but ourselves. By the time my grandkids are my age, the Federal government will decide what brand of toilet paper you can buy, and rather you can put a fence up in your back yard. It is time for the people to start telling the states to quit accepting the money with all the strings attached.
     
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