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I will change the world!!!

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Unite Our Nation, Nov 3, 2008.

  1. Unite Our Nation

    Unite Our Nation New Member

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    “I will change the world.” Cal Thomas reminds us that he means it:

    Is socialism too strong a word [for Obama's end goal]? Consider one of its definitions from dictionary.com and tell me it is something other than Obama’s economic philosophy: “A theory or system of social reform which contemplates a complete reconstruction of society, with a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor.”

    A complete restructuring of society is what Obama advocated in a 2001 interview on a Chicago public radio station. According to Politico.com, in that interview, Obama, “reflecting on the Warren Court’s successes and failures in helping to usher-in civil rights, said, “I think where it succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples.” He has it backward. The Creator already endowed African-American people with these rights, which is precisely the argument powerfully made by Martin Luther King Jr. Any rights that are “vested” in people by other people may be removed by the same or future people. Endowed rights are “unalienable” and what America did was to finally recognize those rights. The distinction is crucial because it also relates to abortion and many other social issues. If a court can take away the right to life, then no endowed right is safe.

    Obama continues with a comment that the “Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of the redistribution of wealth and sort of basic issues of political and economic justice in this society, and to that extent as radical as people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical.” Does he mean that for real “justice” to have been achieved, the Warren Court should have taken from the rich and given to the black poor? Obama never said what would happen once the redistributed money ran out. Perhaps this was not to be a one-time event, but a lifetime of “reparations” for slavery, as some other left-wing black leaders have proposed.

    My question for you: Is the socialist dream really the world we want?

    Victims of Nazi Germany would say no. Victims of Soviet Russia would say no. Victims of Communist Poland would say no. Victims of Communist Eastern Germany would say no. Victims of Communist Czechoslovakia would say no. Victims of North Korea would say no. Victims of Communist Bulgar would say no. Victims of every foul Marxist regime in Africa would say no. Victims of Communist China would say no. Victims of Castro Cuba would say no. Victims of Chavez’s Venezuela would say no.
    Those watching Europe turn into Eurabia as the socialist dream turns into zero population growth creating a vacuum filled by radical Islam would say no. Victims of Canadian socialized medicine would say no. Victims of British socialized medicine would say no."
     
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    No comments on this article?
     
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    No, we don't want pure socialism. No one does. We don't want pure capitalism. No one does. What we want is a blend of the two that promotes opportunities, freedom and a healthy, productive nation.

    I think our brains are big enough to come up with a compromise that works for everyone. Right now everything is rigged just for some rich AHs that think of their workers as expendable numbers.

    And that ain't right folks..
     
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    It's comforting to hear you acknowledge that! Truly.

    I agree with your sentiment and thoughts.

    Do you ever wonder if most people could come together on the main issues if they were debated and decided more fairly?
     
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    I do, but most will never do that, and prefer to just hate the other side only listen to those who agree with them.
     
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    Yes, clever powerful people with agendas know how to milk hatred in order to further their aims...

    A case in point: the Sarah Palin "KILL HIM" rally.

    It's time for a change..
     
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    What a victim might be inclined to choose is easy. What would the victim who lost a 3rd generation family farm choose? What would the 30 year career retail shopkeeper put out of business by the new Super Wal-Mart choose? What would the children of a woman with a closed head injury choose after the insurance company approves 2 weeks of therapy and then cuts her off? What would the 49 year old displaced worker who's job was shipped to Mexico choose? What would the wife and mother of three who lost her 45 year old husband in Iraq choose? What would the 71 year old retiree who was a little too heavily invested in AIG choose? An ideology? A party affiliation? A correct position? Or fairness, justice or compassion.

    Neither socialism or capitalism are worth a lick if they do not serve to create prosperity and the common good. Neither is capable of inherent goodness or badness. An unchecked predatory capitalist isn't a whole lot different than an unchecked predatory socialist, or marxist, or hod carrier.

    While one might perfer to believe that human nature is capable of restraining bad behavior on its own, but it's a naive position. It is just as naive to presume that a stated ideology is capable of doing the same. Fairness and justice preclude political systems. Fairness and justice render everything else moot. A fair and just society of any stated political position is still a fair and just society.

    Greed is a poison, cultures throughout history have tried to rationalize it every way that can be imagined, from political theory to religious birthright. It's been the same in every culture since mankind first recognized the concept of possessions.

    Capitalism inherently appeals to people who place possessions first in their lives. People who value other things simply do not value possessions in the same way and never will. The greediest peoples with the biggest armies always win. As soon as they do they then set to the work of destroying each other. This is the phase America is presently in, the greediest among us are emerging and seeking to win the only game they know how to play. Rationalizing it or justifying it is very easy for them.

    Greed is the root of all evil. Ideologies are just excuses.
     
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