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Illegal Immigration's Destruction Of America's Middle Class

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  1. Jim415

    Jim415 Well-Known Member

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    Illegal Immigration's
    Destruction Of
    America's Middle Class
    By Frosty Wooldridge
    NewsWithViews.com
    12-14-4

    Economist Paul Roberts wrote on January 21, 2003, "Will America become a Third World country in 20 years?" In the Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 2003, "But as the US economy shifted toward service jobs, factory jobs have steadily lost-in fact in just the past 39 months, some 2.8 million jobs vanished."

    Where are they going? China. India. Mexico. Deep into the Third World. "You Americans have lived an artificially high standard of living for a long time," a man working one our jobs outsourced to India wrote me. "It's time you Americans drop to the poverty levels of the rest of the Third World."

    American jobs are offshored, insourced and outsourced at such blinding speed that millions of American citizens stand in unemployment lines every morning while the rest of us go to work, that is, if we still have jobs.

    America's middle class is being dismantled by jobs exported to cheap-labor Third World countries. CEOs and corporations that enjoy the luxuries of America's hard won freedom care not a tinker's dam whether you have a job or not-or a living wage. But the American man and woman on the street--the ones with two kids, a mortgage and bills coming out of their ears--stand powerless as their jobs vanish.

    Worse, our Congress upped the H-1B visas by another 20,000 again this year. That quota rise spits in the face of thousands of American IT workers standing in unemployment lines. Our Congress gave out nearly one million H-1B visas in the past decade. Congress facilitates outsourcing, insourcing and offshoring! Why complain? You just re-elected most of them back into Congress. Cannon, Kennedy, McCain, Udall, Degette, Pelosi, Allard, Dillon, Kyle, Kolbe, Flake and the list continues.

    Paul Hamilton write his story, "You have to work in the Silicone Valley for a while to really understand what it is like to be a white male in the IT business now days. I've worked for the Chinese, Iranians and Indians. I could tell you some horror stories ...HORROR stories! My career went to China, India and the WWW a long time ago though.

    "Today, I am a plumber. I started a new career and things are that tough here in California. I was lucky enough to get on with Marina Plumbing which is a huge Corporation that does the plumbing on new construction...think BIG housing subdivisions.

    "I look around on the job site and I am the only white male in a sea of Mexicans. Few of these Mexicans speak English. There are usually several boom boxes blaring Maruichi music all day long. The Mexicans OWN ALL THE TRADES! The concrete workers, the framers, the heavy equipment operators, the roofers and even the truck drivers delivering building materials--ALL are Mexicans.

    "President Bush is 100 percent off the mark, or he is crazy... or?" "I was the leading channel rep in the Silicone Valley for high end CISCO switches. For a year and a half I have been in IBM's Presidents club before. I wonder what the Germans thought circa 37, 38, 39 when the SS was taking over and doing the dirty work for Hitler? Were the Germans just sitting around wondering what was going on? Were they just sitting there in disbelief? I hear our esteemed President talking about Mexican Amnesty and think about how they have already brought misery to an already dead-broke state and wonder what the he ll?"

    But there is another ominous skullduggery afoot across this country. It's the importation of illegal aliens by major US companies who thwart Federal Laws in order to 'lose' American workers and then, wholesale, break OSHA standards at will. How? Because illegal aliens will not make a whimper for fear of losing their jobs.

    The displacement of American workers proceeds methodically. American corporations sacrifice American workers in the name of profit. Over 200,000 illegal aliens swarm the Colorado job market. They displace Denver pavers, roofers, landscapers, beef processing plants, framers, dry wallers and virtually have taken over all fast food restaurants.

    This story repeats millions of times. A recent television news broadcast by one of the big three showed a man who had just made the 'Wall of Unemployment Shame' in his workplace, which included 1,000 fellow employees who had been laid off. Formerly making $22.00 an hour, he's now driving a delivery truck for $11.00 an hour. His wife and children struggle with their new financial reality.

    Currently, 15 million illegal aliens commandeer jobs away from American citizens. If they don't steal those jobs, they depress the wages to the point of legalized slavery. We have an estimated one million illegal alien Chinese in this country (Source: March 2005 Forbes Magazine). At the same time, we outsource jobs to China where a billion people can't wait to make 50 cents an hour. Human smugglers bringing illegals into America make $7 billion annually according to the report.

    Do they work the jobs Americans won't do? False! If American doctors were paid $5.00 an hour they wouldn't be working those hospital jobs either.

    You have to ask yourself if you want illegal immigrant doctors working at minimum wage to perform a by-pass heart surgery on you? Would you like an illegal immigrant lawyer defending you in court for $5.00 an hour? How about a $5.00 an hour illegal immigrant college professor teaching your kids calculus? How about an illegal alien truck driver driving down the road at 70 MPH with 80,000 pounds of steel, no ability to read English and a fifth grade education-from Mexico's educational system?

    Meanwhile, profits soar for corporations while the middle class of America plummets into worsening unemployment. Will America drop into Third World conditions as economist Paul Roberts predicts? At the current rate of 4.1 million legal and illegal newcomers imported into the United States annually, it's only a matter of time before, we too, manifest conditions of the Third World. You can't drown the labor market with millions of people and expect to keep your wages high when immigrants will undercut you.

    That's why the pay in China or India is less than $10.00 per day. They have 2.4 billion people in those two countries. That's why they live subsistence lives. In time, that reality will manifest itself in America as the middle class vanishes. It's already happening. You need look no further than California as an example of the first Third World State of America
     
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    I don't think anyone seriously believes that illegal immigration has not had a negative impact on the middle class. However, the cause of that impact lies directly in the lap of the Democratic Party.
     
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    I love Dr Paul Craig Roberts. I just finished his The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism. What a great book.
     
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    It is not only the democratic party. The republicans are for it as well. The republicans want the cheap labor and the democrats want the vote.
     
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    I really thought after 9/11 that Bush would seal up the border.

    Huge disappointment on several levels, national security being number one, drugs and illegal immigration being two and three.
     
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    Not closing the border is a criminal failure on the part of our government ...
     
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    Yes it is.
     
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    Immigration build this nation..And the legality of their Immigration never changed anything. Most whites have no idea how their ancestors got to this nation, nor would have they have the slightest clue if the followed laws to do so.

    Also net immigration from mexcio is currently zero...yep zero
     
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    More like 3 million a year of illegals enter the USA. A drop fro 4 million because there are no jobs and many are discouraged and go back to Mexico. Others stay here and apply for welfare or do odds and ends jobs.
     
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    Disingenuous, don't you think?

    "The largest wave of immigration in history from a single country to the United States has come to a standstill. After four decades that brought 12 million current immigrants—most of whom came illegally—the net migration flow from Mexico to the United States has stopped and may have reversed, according to a new analysis of government data from both countries by the Pew Hispanic Center, a project of the Pew Research Center.

    The standstill appears to be the result of many factors, including the weakened U.S. job and housing construction markets, heightened border enforcement, a rise in deportations, the growing dangers associated with illegal border crossings, the long-term decline in Mexico’s birth rates and broader economic conditions in Mexico."

    Doesn't this seem to confirm that increased pressure on stopping illegal border crossings would positively restrict the number of illegals?

    Does that mean that those of you who oppose increasing border security first really are supporting illegal immigration?
     
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    For many, particularly the south west, the illegals made it possible for the middle class to develop.
    1. It was Illegals that worked for dollars per week and allowed the inexpensive housing to be built. Contractors were even giving bonuses to illegals who brought more good workers back with them. The term "Back" is used because immigration would round up illegals on Friday afternoon and drive them to the border. The government knew they were here and the contractors liked having them. In the 1950's domestic help was available for as little as $20.00/month allowing the women of the house to get a good paying job so our middle class could get more things they really didn't need.
    2. The Middle Class was screwed by our "financial system" and businesses sending the jobs which were defined as "Productive Labor" to other countries where workers earned dollars per week not dollars per hour. The portion of the which was retained by these businesses was call: over head, management and non-productive labor.
    3. The jobs taken by the illegals were usually those not considered acceptable to our working class.
    4. I belonged to a union for a couple of years while working for a small school in Cambridge, MA. named MIT. I was considered staff at most other places I was employed and the workers were union. Our benefits and wages increased by the agreements made by the union workers. FYI, companies did not like to pay for benefits in the 60's and 70's and when the breaking of unions became common practice is the time jobs were sent over seas.

    Having Social Programs does not make a country Socialist. I often wish people implying that would just read a tiny amount which should be all that is necessary to clear up that belief.

    We do have problems with the implementation of Social Programs and that doesn't mean the concept or program is wrong or bad, it is about the manner in which it is implemented. Welfare for example should not be allowed to become a way of life. It should be a system which allows for training, education and work to raise the ability of people to become responsible members of society. We must remember that we are a Capitalist country and as such must rely on business to provide jobs. In many instances it is business that have cause the most socialist programs and are using loopholes and getting preferred treatment. They complain about regulations which are required because they are not acting responsibly.

    I'm not to pleased with the actions of our politicians. They are too concerned about re-election and lack an acceptable level of honesty and ethics. They spend their time pointing fingers to make the other side look bad when they should be looking for the cause for a problem rather than reacting to a symptom. No problem has ever been solved by treating the symptom, making the problem more difficult to correct is the usual result.
     
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    Build a wall on Mexican border just like Israel did to keep out the Arabs preventing terrorist attacks inside Israel.
     
  13. g4racer

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    It was Mark Twain that said , "Anyone who spells a word the same way all the time has no imagination." I am dyslexic. I am not proud of it or ashamed of it, I live with it.
    A pencil can also be used to kill a person, a hard lead with a sharp point works best..
    You miss the point we as a nation are as responsible for the state of immigration as those who came in illegally. Yes, it included both middle class and up. When we were making money from them it was encouraged. Many of those making a lot of noise about the state of immigration are those who made a lot of money off them.

    "Build a wall on Mexican border just like Israel did to keep out the Arabs preventing terrorist attacks inside Israel." There is a good chance the wall in Israel was paid for with USA money. The size of the wall would be quite different. The cost would be extremely high and the people who are in favor of it are not willing to pay for it. We could save a lot of money if we built it using, "Wetback" labor. What's a fair wage? 5 or 6 an hour.
     
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