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Obama speech gets high marks

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Popeye, Feb 25, 2009.

  1. Popeye

    Popeye Active Member

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    According to a CNN Poll Obama was a hit last night...

    Americans viewed the speech as

    Very positive-68%

    Somewhat positive-24%

    Negative-8%


    The speech made Americans feel

    More optimistic-85%

    Pessimistic-11%


    As for the President's plan outlined in the speech

    Support-82%

    Oppose-17%


    Now in all fairness the poll cautions that since Obama is a Democrat, more Democrats were watching the speech..possibly skewing the numbers by 8-10%, but even taking that into account it was a successful night for our fine intelligent new president.
     
  2. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

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    The same intelligent president that doubled the national debt, but is going to cut the deficit in half? No one who doubles the debt then claims they will reduce the deficit, is "intelligent" by any stretch.
     
  3. Popeye

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    Compared to George Bush, who inherited a surplus of 128 billion, and then ran us into debt...yes he's extremely intelligent....and charismatic, which helps in times like these.
     
  4. Little-Acorn

    Little-Acorn Well-Known Member

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    Fact check: The US Government hasn't run an annual surplus since before World War 2.

    Nice try.
     
  5. HankHill

    HankHill New Member

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    I think the word you were searching for was "devious" or "evil" or "self-serving".

    Wow, you're liberal mind is just plain making up stuff now.
     
  6. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Yeah, he should have kept defense-spending (in Iraq) hidden, like Lil' Dumbya; ALWAYS a good-way to minimize our budget.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Awwwwwwwwwww....you forgot to post the figures.

    Nice try.

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. HankHill

    HankHill New Member

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    It's all hidden in the porkulus bill, and now more will be oink'd in the spendulus bill.:rolleyes:
     
  9. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    It's the political-environment that Lil' Dumbya left-behind....everything sounds like a lie, now.

    Hell....The Idiot SON fell-for-it!!!​

    Yeah.....Lil' Dumbya reeeeeaaaaallllly came-thru, for us!!

    :rolleyes:
     
  10. Little-Acorn

    Little-Acorn Well-Known Member

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    When you run a surplus, the national debt is smaller the following year, than it was this year.

    When you run a deficit, the national debt is bigger the following year, than this year.

    I was wrong: The national debt went down very slightly, in 1956 and 1957. The government ran a surplus in those two years. And also in 1947 and 1948.

    Since 1957, we have never run a surplus. The national debt has increased every year since then, without exception.

    The claim that GWB inherited a "surplus", is false.

    Source: U.S. Government Treasury records, found at http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm

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    National Debt, each year since 1920

    Date Dollar Amount
    9/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.40
    9/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
    9/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
    9/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
    9/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
    9/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
    9/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
    9/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
    9/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
    9/30/1999 5,656,270,901,615.43
    9/30/1998 5,526,193,008,897.62
    9/30/1997 5,413,146,011,397.34
    9/30/1996 5,224,810,939,135.73
    9/29/1995 4,973,982,900,709.39
    9/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32
    9/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.38
    9/30/1992 4,064,620,655,521.66
    9/30/1991 3,665,303,351,697.03
    9/28/1990 3,233,313,451,777.25
    9/29/1989 2,857,430,960,187.32
    9/30/1988 2,602,337,712,041.16
    9/30/1987 2,350,276,890,953.00
    9/30/1986 2,125,302,616,658.42
    9/30/1985 * 1,823,103,000,000.00
    9/30/1984 * 1,572,266,000,000.00
    9/30/1983 * 1,377,210,000,000.00
    9/30/1982 * 1,142,034,000,000.00
    9/30/1981 * 997,855,000,000.00
    9/30/1980 * 907,701,000,000.00
    9/30/1979 * 826,519,000,000.00
    9/30/1978 * 771,544,000,000.00
    9/30/1977 * 698,840,000,000.00
    6/30/1976 * 620,433,000,000.00
    6/30/1975 * 533,189,000,000.00
    6/30/1974 475,059,815,731.55
    6/30/1973 458,141,605,312.09
    6/30/1972 427,260,460,940.50
    6/30/1971 398,129,744,455.54
    6/30/1970 370,918,706,949.93
    6/30/1969 353,720,253,841.41
    6/30/1968 347,578,406,425.88
    6/30/1967 326,220,937,794.54
    6/30/1966 319,907,087,795.48
    6/30/1965 317,273,898,983.64
    6/30/1964 311,712,899,257.30
    6/30/1963 305,859,632,996.41
    6/30/1962 298,200,822,720.87
    6/30/1961 288,970,938,610.05
    6/30/1960 286,330,760,848.37
    6/30/1959 284,705,907,078.22
    6/30/1958 276,343,217,745.81
    6/30/1957 270,527,171,896.43
    6/30/1956 272,750,813,649.32
    6/30/1955 274,374,222,802.62
    6/30/1954 271,259,599,108.46
    6/30/1953 266,071,061,638.57
    6/30/1952 259,105,178,785.43
    6/29/1951 255,221,976,814.93
    6/30/1950 257,357,352,351.04
    6/30/1949 252,770,359,860.33
    6/30/1948 252,292,246,512.99
    6/30/1947 258,286,383,108.67
    6/28/1946 269,422,099,173.26
    6/30/1945 258,682,187,409.93
    6/30/1944 201,003,387,221.13
    6/30/1943 136,696,090,329.90
    6/30/1942 *72,422,445,116.22
    6/30/1941 *48,961,443,535.71
    6/29/1940 *42,967,531,037.68
    6/30/1939 *40,439,532,411.11
    6/30/1938 *37,164,740,315.45
    6/30/1937 *36,424,613,732.29
    6/30/1936 *33,778,543,493.73
    6/29/1935 *28,700,892,624.53
    6/30/1934 *27,053,141,414.48
    6/30/1933 *22,538,672,560.15
    6/30/1932 *19,487,002,444.13
    6/30/1931 *16,801,281,491.71
    6/30/1930 *16,185,309,831.43
    6/29/1929 *16,931,088,484.10
    6/30/1928 *17,604,293,201.43
    6/30/1927 *18,511,906,931.85
    6/30/1926 *19,643,216,315.19
    6/30/1925 *20,516,193,887.90
    6/30/1924 *21,250,812,989.49
    6/30/1923 *22,349,707,365.36
    6/30/1922 *22,963,381,708.31
    6/30/1921 *23,977,450,552.54
    7/1/1920 *25,952,456,406.16
     
  11. HankHill

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    Your pathetic attempt to blame Bush for everything bad with Obama just doesn't hold water. But I understand it's all you know how to do is look in the past and ignore the horror that is our future....Obuma's lies!
     
  12. Popeye

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    US Budget Surpluses and Deficits

    I claimed that Bush inherited a budget surplus...which he did. He then preceded to post a budget deficit every year of his presidency...which he did.
     
  13. Little-Acorn

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    So, CNN says we ran surpluses for several years... while the U.S. Treasury Dept. says we went further into debt, every one of those years.

    Have you ever wondered why?

    (Hint: Check out how the govt treats the money it takes in for the Social Security Trust fund and other such trust funds it controls. They count SS "contributions" as revenue to the govt. Then it borrows the money from those trust funds... and counts it as revenue again. But then when they figure the National Debt, they can't show a surplus... because they had to borrow to make ends meet. If any private business or corporation tried this kind of fancy accounting, the CFO would go to jail for a very long time. Only the government is allowed to do this kind of "creative bookkeeping" (known elsewhere as "committing fraud".)

    The U.S. government has never run a surplus since 1957 - the national debt has gone up every year since then, without exception.

    The statement that George W. Bush "inherited a surplus", is false. If and when CNN ever begins doing investigative reporting of matters that favor Democrats, this will become starkly clear.

    I'm not holding my breath for that, though.
     
  14. HankHill

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    I give you a D- for your effort.
     
  15. Little-Acorn

    Little-Acorn Well-Known Member

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    Ummm, where did Mr. Sham-man go?

    He complained that I hadn't posted figures to back up the fact that we hadn't run a surplus. I immediately posted them, in detail, with link and references.

    And suddenly Mr. Sham-man has become very quiet. I thought he wanted to discuss the topic here?

    Anybody seen him around?
     
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