Obama wants to legitimize the 20 million illegal aliens - do you agree?

[Andy]

Perhaps you need to actually know the meaning of words before commenting on what I say.

Actually, when you realize the person you are conversing with is insane, and others agree, it makes understanding the point of the insane person's post, much less relevant.

And the point I'm making is that if illegal aliens are already doing some benefit to the country, then perhaps it is time to make their existence legal. There is no sense for the government to forgo the taxes due from these people -- not to mention making it difficult for certain labor-intesive businesses unnecessarily.

Ah, something almost resembling logic! Two issues. First, do we believe in having laws? If we do, do we believe in enforcing those laws? If we do, then should people who break those laws be rewarded with citizenship?

Second, the benefit of the labor in our economy, is that it is cheap. It is cheap because it does not follow legal laws. If we make these people legal citizens, who must follow legal labor practices, the benefit will be gone, thus eliminating the very reason we gave them legal citizenship to begin with.

Example, you can pay an illegal, LESS than minimum wage, and they will earn MORE than someone legally earning minimum wage, YET saving the company money.

The instant that person is a legal citizen, that companies advantage, that benefits our economy, is gone, defeating the purpose of making them citizens.

Do you deny that a growing segment of the american population is afflicted with obesity? And do you deny that obesity is and affliction that has a physical, emotional and social dimension?

Chocolate is TASTY and Indo-China has rice! lol Here is a question: do deny that this comment has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand?

Educating you is becoming such a chore.

I'm not even trying to educate you anymore. Two words "Lost Cause".

 

[bewitched]

I'm not even trying to educate you anymore. Two words "Lost Cause".

bingo.
there is a certain percentage of the population that the Pentagon counts as a loss... inevitable.

 

[Andy]

bingo.
there is a certain percentage of the population that the Pentagon counts as a loss... inevitable.

I keep asking him where he was schooled at. Certainly the Pentagon need more test fire grounds. He won't tell me, so either he's protecting the school reputation or, hopefully, he never went to school. It's difficult to think someone knowing so little made it through a school somewhere.

 

[Libsmasher]

Tell you what, how about you get some decent competence in the english language before addressing me? Sounds reasonable?

Why should I? You're (a) cowardly and (b) incoherent.

 

[PLC1]

Say, Numinus, it seems it's time to apply the lesson I taught you as a part of our debate about homosexual marriage, remember? Check, mate. You're now on the receiving end of personal insults.

 

[numinus]

Too funny. That's EXACTLY what he does constantly because chocolate is TASTY and people in indo-china have rice.

You do not even have the common sense to realize that east asia is composed of very diverse ethnicity. Indo-china indeed!

 

[numinus]

Actually, when you realize the person you are conversing with is insane, and others agree, it makes understanding the point of the insane person's post, much less relevant.

You and bewitched fit perfectly together. Bewitched is a bigot and you're simply ignorant.

Ah, something almost resembling logic! Two issues. First, do we believe in having laws? If we do, do we believe in enforcing those laws?

Of course.

If we do, then should people who break those laws be rewarded with citizenship?

The principle behind executive CLEMENCY.

These illegals are DE FACTO citizens. Making their 'citizenship' legal would only benefit the state.

Second, the benefit of the labor in our economy, is that it is cheap. It is cheap because it does not follow legal laws.

Is there any law that is illegal? Hiding behind fancy words would only make you look more foolish.

If we make these people legal citizens, who must follow legal labor practices, the benefit will be gone, thus eliminating the very reason we gave them legal citizenship to begin with.

The prices of goods and services will follow supply and demand -- as ALWAYS.

Example, you can pay an illegal, LESS than minimum wage, and they will earn MORE than someone legally earning minimum wage, YET saving the company money.

Minimum wage is not something you pull out of a hat, although your lack inclines you to think that way. It is set according to economic realities. And the economic reality is -- people are already in the country doing this or that job for something less than minimum wage.

So, simply mandate a lesser minimum wage. Duh?

The instant that person is a legal citizen, that companies advantage, that benefits our economy, is gone, defeating the purpose of making them citizens.

What nonsense logic.

A person gets paid for the skill he infuses in his work -- not from citizenship. No value is added to a fruit whether it is picked by an illegal or a citizen.

Are you sure you are competent on topics in economics?

Chocolate is TASTY and Indo-China has rice! lol Here is a question: do deny that this comment has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand?

One need not dignify the rantings of a moron.

I'm not even trying to educate you anymore. Two words "Lost Cause".

Perhaps you wish to get your education from a 'citizen', then? Such prejudice suits you.

 

[numinus]

Why should I? You're (a) cowardly and (b) incoherent.

Because you do not even know the meaning of the word 'prejudice'.

 

[numinus]

Say, Numinus, it seems it's time to apply the lesson I taught you as a part of our debate about homosexual marriage, remember? Check, mate. You're now on the receiving end of personal insults.

Do you think I'm bothered by morons making feeble insults?

One is a bigot who hates anything islamic.

One doesn't even know the meaning of the word 'prejudice'.

And last but not the least, one is mumbling about chocolates and rice.

So, no. I'm not bothered by the insults of the likes of these. Morons would stick together to appear intelligent the same way frogs inflate themselves to appear big.

 

[Libsmasher]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Libsmasher
Why should I? You're (a) cowardly and (b) incoherent.

Because you do not even know the meaning of the word 'prejudice'.

Would you like to get back to the topic at hand? No, on second thought, nevermind - I find it tiresome to try to talk to the confused.

 

[Andy]

Do you think I'm bothered by morons making feeble insults?

One is a bigot who hates anything islamic.

One doesn't even know the meaning of the word 'prejudice'.

And last but not the least, one is mumbling about chocolates and rice.

So, no. I'm not bothered by the insults of the likes of these. Morons would stick together to appear intelligent the same way frogs inflate themselves to appear big.

As opposed to you who couldn't appear intelligent with a hundred people sticking by you. Of course you can not even get one to stand by you because they would appear less intelligent doing so.

I know this may mess up your self-esteem... but is it possible the reason everyone is saying you are an ignorant fool is... perhaps not because your the only "smrt" person on the planet... but rather because you, in fact, are the fool?

No no... never mind. So what were you saying about all those privately owned socialist businesses in China and how fat Americans are the reason for amnesty? Come come, we're all waiting for your next logical argument!

 

[numinus]

Would you like to get back to the topic at hand? No, on second thought, nevermind - I find it tiresome to try to talk to the confused.

It is tiresome to actually know the meaning of words, eh?

Nope. No surprise here.

 

[numinus]

As opposed to you who couldn't appear intelligent with a hundred people sticking by you. Of course you can not even get one to stand by you because they would appear less intelligent doing so.

I know this may mess up your self-esteem... but is it possible the reason everyone is saying you are an ignorant fool is... perhaps not because your the only "smrt" person on the planet... but rather because you, in fact, are the fool?

No no... never mind. So what were you saying about all those privately owned socialist businesses in China and how fat Americans are the reason for amnesty? Come come, we're all waiting for your next logical argument!

You want to appear intelligent?

How about phrasing an intelligent response. On second thought, you are incapable of an intelligent response. Your only recourse is to fake it. How sad.

 

[vyo476]

All right, gentlemen, the sandbox war really ought to be ending now.

 

[Andy]

You want to appear intelligent?

How about phrasing an intelligent response. On second thought, you are incapable of an intelligent response. Your only recourse is to fake it. How sad.

No, I don't need to appear to be anything. I know for a fact, I am far more informed than you. Further, in this case, looking intelligent requires no real effort on my part. I just respond to your insanity with common sense. Forest Gump could do that and look brilliant responding to you.

So do tell how fat Americans is a logical reason we should support amnesty? Or do tell how 100% privately owned and operated businesses in China is an example of working socialism?

Come on Numinus, we are all waiting for your FIRST intelligent response to a single topic thus far!