Another Racist remark by Harry Reid

[OldTrapper]

The list I posted above is VERY specific.

You condemn others on this forum for being right wing partisans, while you are a left wing partisan. Do you fail to see the contradiction?

LOL, yet I support nothing from the left, just point out your failures from the right. Like your list.

• The poverty rate increased from 39.8 million to over 47 million, an increase from 13.2% to 15.7%

The result of the Bush era, and occured in the first year of Obama's tenure. You are doing the same as the Democrats did for Bush's first year in attributing Clinton's recession to Bush.

• Americans on food stamps increased from 31.5 million to 46.4 million

Again, happened in Obama's first year. Bush wwas promoting the use of food stamps during his presidency.

• 7.8% unemployment

What was it when Bush left office?

• Employment dropped from 60.6% to 58.6%

And yet you want to claim the millions of jobs created overseas by globalism has not affected our job market.

• Only 47% Americans have full-time jobs

Do you want Obama to spend more on government jobs, or do you want creation by private enterprises? Private enterprise is not going to do it as long as the tax loopholes given them by Bush are kept in place. There is no incentive for them to do so.

• Median income dropped 4.1% during the recovery or down about $4000 per family

What has Obama to do with this? Corporate profits are at record levels, CEO salaries have grown by 200%. Yet you would oppose a minimum wage. Aside from that, the wages of the middle class have been falling since Reagan.

• Federal expenditures increased from $2.9 trillion to $3.79 trillion

And how much of that was due to unpaid for wars?

• Oil production decreased 14% on federal lands

And yet oil production is up 20%, an demand is down 10%. Refineries are closing their doors due to lack of demand. Refined fuel is our number 1 EXPORT.

• Gas prices went from $1.84 a gallon in Jan 2009 to $3.84 a gallon in Sept 2012

And yet profits for oil companies are at record highs. There is no excuse for the higher prices save for the fear created by speculators over events in the ME.

• The first ever U.S. credit downgrade in history

Due to the crisis created by the collapse of the housing market under who's watch?

• The highest corporate tax rate in the world at 39.5%

60% of corporations pay no taxes at all. The effective tax rate for corporations is around 14%, and we are 16th. in the world.

• A failed foreign policy of Leading from Behind

Whatever that means. Is this anything like Bush's leading from "in front", and getting thousands of American patriots killed, or maimed?

• Increased instability around the world

Wonder who created that situation. Oh yes, it is all Obama's fault. Has nothing to do with the increased violence of groups like al Queda who used the actions of Bush as a recruiting tool. Couldn't have anything to do with the "Arab Spring". It has to be Obama's fault.

• Iran getting closer to being a nuclear nation

Bomb the hell out of Iran. Obviously the stronger sanctions put in place by Obama haven't worked. Only answer is another war. (sarcasm)

• A diminished global reputation

Read a book entitled "The Ugly American", and note when it was written. Or look up "Paper Tiger".


So far nothing you have posted can be directly attributed to Obama, and nor can anything posted hereafter. Yet you believe it to be "credible". In your mind Obama created the ills of the world, and the US, all by himself. YOU, and others like you, have actually presented him as a "god".

 

[Gipper]

LOL, yet I support nothing from the left, just point out your failures from the right. Like your list.

• The poverty rate increased from 39.8 million to over 47 million, an increase from 13.2% to 15.7%

The result of the Bush era, and occured in the first year of Obama's tenure. You are doing the same as the Democrats did for Bush's first year in attributing Clinton's recession to Bush.

• Americans on food stamps increased from 31.5 million to 46.4 million

Again, happened in Obama's first year. Bush wwas promoting the use of food stamps during his presidency.

• 7.8% unemployment

What was it when Bush left office?

• Employment dropped from 60.6% to 58.6%

And yet you want to claim the millions of jobs created overseas by globalism has not affected our job market.

• Only 47% Americans have full-time jobs

Do you want Obama to spend more on government jobs, or do you want creation by private enterprises? Private enterprise is not going to do it as long as the tax loopholes given them by Bush are kept in place. There is no incentive for them to do so.

• Median income dropped 4.1% during the recovery or down about $4000 per family

What has Obama to do with this? Corporate profits are at record levels, CEO salaries have grown by 200%. Yet you would oppose a minimum wage. Aside from that, the wages of the middle class have been falling since Reagan.

• Federal expenditures increased from $2.9 trillion to $3.79 trillion

And how much of that was due to unpaid for wars?

• Oil production decreased 14% on federal lands

And yet oil production is up 20%, an demand is down 10%. Refineries are closing their doors due to lack of demand. Refined fuel is our number 1 EXPORT.

• Gas prices went from $1.84 a gallon in Jan 2009 to $3.84 a gallon in Sept 2012

And yet profits for oil companies are at record highs. There is no excuse for the higher prices save for the fear created by speculators over events in the ME.

• The first ever U.S. credit downgrade in history

Due to the crisis created by the collapse of the housing market under who's watch?

• The highest corporate tax rate in the world at 39.5%

60% of corporations pay no taxes at all. The effective tax rate for corporations is around 14%, and we are 16th. in the world.

• A failed foreign policy of Leading from Behind

Whatever that means. Is this anything like Bush's leading from "in front", and getting thousands of American patriots killed, or maimed?

• Increased instability around the world

Wonder who created that situation. Oh yes, it is all Obama's fault. Has nothing to do with the increased violence of groups like al Queda who used the actions of Bush as a recruiting tool. Couldn't have anything to do with the "Arab Spring". It has to be Obama's fault.

• Iran getting closer to being a nuclear nation

Bomb the hell out of Iran. Obviously the stronger sanctions put in place by Obama haven't worked. Only answer is another war. (sarcasm)

• A diminished global reputation

Read a book entitled "The Ugly American", and note when it was written. Or look up "Paper Tiger".


So far nothing you have posted can be directly attributed to Obama, and nor can anything posted hereafter. Yet you believe it to be "credible". In your mind Obama created the ills of the world, and the US, all by himself. YOU, and others like you, have actually presented him as a "god".

Yep...Obama is not at fault for any of it...even though he has been POTUS for nearly five years.

Is he at fault for anything?

 

[Texas_tea]

Yep...Obama is not at fault for any of it...even though he has been POTUS for nearly five years.

Is he at fault for anything?

His only fault would be his lack of ability to mesmerize the normal thinking citizens of this Country into being his little worshiping sheeples!

If he were able to do that ...... the messiah would truly be without blame!

 

[OldTrapper]

Yep...Obama is not at fault for any of it...even though he has been POTUS for nearly five years.

Is he at fault for anything?

You mean aside from more amnesty for illegals as Bush promoted; gay marriages; more corporate welfare; following the Bush plan; etc.? Perhaps you could point out something that originated with Obama, and has not been supported by the Republicans?

When you actually bring something up he is responsible for rather then just anecdotal evidence I will support your condemnation. However, as long as you want to hold Republicans, especially Bush, faultless then I will not. Kind of like your lies calling me a "socialist", "communist", or whatever. You can't support the claim, however, that does not prevent you from making such.

Just as an aside, I was at a yard sale yesterday, and they had some guns for sale. As I bought two more (as if the dozen or so were not enough) I thought about all the paranoid people like yourself who cannot think for yourselves (another "inappropriate" comment I suppose), and all the money I am going to make when I sell these guns after Obama takes them all away from the people (none of my guns are registered). It was that thought that once again confirmed for me that I am actually one of the most Conservative people in this forum.

I just happen to be rational about my beliefs, and can actually support my arguments.

 

[Texas_tea]

Useful Idiots ....
-Vladimir Lenin

 

[OldTrapper]

Useful Idiots ....
-Vladimir Lenin

Inappropriate comment that will not be corrected by the moderator since you are nothing but a pet.

However, since none of you can come up with a shining example, as I noted, nor can you prove me wrong, then I suspect you have no where else to go.

“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”― Samuel Johnson



Of course, Johnson was not speaking of true patriotism, just your kind. And since your knowledge of matters is so shallow you would not be capable of understanding that the term you used is not limited to those on the left. "A useful idiot is someone who supports one side of an ideological debate but who is manipulated and held in contempt by the leaders of their faction." Karl Rove, Cheney, Beck, Limbaugh, etc., all laugh all the way to the bank as they see how easily manipulated people like you are.

 

[Cruella]

Perhaps you could point out something that originated with Obama, and has not been supported by the Republicans?.

Obamacare comes to mind.

 

[dogtowner]

Inappropriate comment that will not be corrected by the moderator since you are nothing but a pet.
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/22191.Samuel_Johnson
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historical reference, not personal. no problem. had he said "dogtowner is a useful idiot" might be different. but you prefer to whine about being reminded of the few simple rules you agreed to to gain posting rights here (as did we all). suit yourself but recognize it says more about you than anything else. and if you think I suck at this feel free to take it up with Walter (the kind soul who provides this board for our amusement). if he concurrs he can dump me.

 

[OldTrapper]

historical reference, not personal. no problem. had he said "dogtowner is a useful idiot" might be different. but you prefer to whine about being reminded of the few simple rules you agreed to to gain posting rights here (as did we all). suit yourself but recognize it says more about you than anything else. and if you think I suck at this feel free to take it up with Walter (the kind soul who provides this board for our amusement). if he concurrs he can dump me.

Like I told you in the PM sent to you in response to your *********, you have an odd way of determining what is appropriate, or inappropriate. Even the densest fool would know he was not referring to a "historical" reference. Not "whining" as you would like to think, just pointing out your inconsistency.

 

[cashmcall]

Why would anyone want to talk down to someone else .. doesn't make sense.. and what does any of it have to do with a Racist remark by Harry Reid?

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Typical worthless Right wing Bullshit.

First none of you knuckledraggers from the Flat Earth Society bother to notice he said that Opposistion is not based on race. You basically say that he said it is. I take your opposition to the statement to mean you Hope it is?

Plus you love to go to the extream to ignore the facts. Some of the attacks on Obama are because he is black, or Fired up more due to his Race...Or do you stick your head in the sand and think there is no racism in your White Rich Party combined uneducated whites...you know your base.

If 10% of attacks are because of his Race, its 10% to much. But you take anyone suggeesting that anyone is racist...to equal 100% off all against Obama are due to race.....

 

[pocketfullofshells]

 

[cashmcall]

Whats this? now am I suppose to post he things the Liberals said about Bush? I think we all understand there are idiots on both sides..

 

[TheJPRD]

Typical worthless Right wing Bullshit.

YOU raised the subject, lefty, so let's talk about about "bullshit"! Every time I see "worthless", it's always on the LEFT!

First none of you knuckledraggers from the Flat Earth Society bother to notice he said that Opposistion is not based on race. You basically say that he said it is. I take your opposition to the statement to mean you Hope it is?

The terms "knuckledraggers" and "Flat Earth Society" imply the we Conservatives are ignorant and uninformed cave animals. Why is it then, that it's YOU who is consistently wrong here, and YOU who is totally oblivious to facts??? Any time you want to discuss who the real bigots, racists, race-baiters, and demagogues are in this country, I'll be happy to wipe the floor with your ignorance.

Plus you love to go to the extream to ignore the facts. Some of the attacks on Obama are because he is black, or Fired up more due to his Race...Or do you stick your head in the sand and think there is no racism in your White Rich Party combined uneducated whites...you know your base.

Conservatives ignore facts?? THAT statement in itself ignores the facts! Leftist Democrats constantly accuse Conservatives of racism. Why is it then, that white Conservatives actively embrace our Conservative black brothers and sisters?? Leftist Democrats viciously attacked LTC Allen West, and they didn't attribute their attacks to "leftist racism"! Leftist Democrats viciously attacked Justice Clarence Thomas, and again they never attributed those attacks to their racism. Try calling LTC West an "uncle Tom" to his face sometime, lefty, and you'll find yourself facing some REAL black power! Racism is indeed rampant in our nation. However, virtually ALL of that rampant racism comes from black Democrats! Blacks commit violence against whites regularly, and yet we Conservative whites are accused of racial violence. Here is an interesting FACT for you, lefty. Do you know how often whites commit violence against blacks??? When looking at acts of white violence, such violence is committed against blacks... get ready for it.... 3% of the time! We whites are terrible toward blacks, aren't we? Good God!

AND, for YOU to speak of Conservatives as being "uneducated" is beyond the pale of lunacy! You're so far out of your intellectual league here it isn't funny! Yet, you still have yourself convinced that you're educated??? Unbelievable!

If 10% of attacks are because of his Race, its 10% to much. But you take anyone suggeesting that anyone is racist...to equal 100% off all against Obama are due to race.....

If you want to do something about racism in our nation, start by looking at those who ARE racists! Those people are black Democrats, NOT white Conservatives.

 

[OldTrapper]

If you want to do something about racism in our nation, start by looking at those who ARE racists! Those people are black Democrats, NOT white Conservatives.

I would actually like to see some proof for that comment if it is possible.