Greatest Living Conservatives

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...And, those old failed ideas are....???????


DETAILS, Skippy...DETAILS!!!!

Where are the ones you were referring-to?????

:confused:


(You're runnin'-outta-gas....already??!!!! :eek: )​


can't read ? poor thing.
I'll keep it simple for you, you can't spend your way out of a problem. Especially by blowing it on infrastructure (like Murtha's private airport is such). There are many more but they are mainly variations on a theme.
 
Real conservatives who do more than rant and shout, but actually hold office and face real world issues are somewhat rare, aren't they?

How about Tom McClintock?

Had he won his bid for the governorship of California, we might, just might mind you, have balanced the budget after Davis was recalled.
 
Real conservatives who do more than rant and shout, but actually hold office and face real world issues are somewhat rare, aren't they?

How about Tom McClintock?

Had he won his bid for the governorship of California, we might, just might mind you, have balanced the budget after Davis was recalled.


I'm not sure anyone could have coaxed enough cuts to balance that budget.
 
Real conservatives who do more than rant and shout, but actually hold office and face real world issues are somewhat rare, aren't they?

How about Tom McClintock?

Had he won his bid for the governorship of California, we might, just might mind you, have balanced the budget after Davis was recalled.[/QUOTE ]

well you could have just done what they did when davis won then, start getting people to sign for a special election again less then a month after the Election becuse you did not like the result...
 
But the header was Greatest living conservative

people like Rush dont have to get votes so they dont have to cave on
things they believe in.

All of the politicians you named have had to cave at one point or another
conservative values to compromise with other politicians, thus making them
not the greatest conservatives. Though I think everyone on your list are fine conservatives.

its easy to have high ideals, when you never have to live up to them.

being a media conservative is like being a dictator with no real consequences for your failing....you can say what ever you want, you never need to worry about details, and you never have to actuly listen to anyone else or compramise...But its like saying I am a great architect cuz I can yell build it taller...and not worry if that would actually make the building fall over....
 
I'm not either, which is why I said maybe. Our legislature is the problem, not the governor. Their responses to budget deficits are (1) raise taxes or (2) pass a bond.


Yes, and after a while nobody wants your bonds and people move to get out fro under the taxes. And that started some time back. I cannot imagine what further reality has to happen to wake these knuckleheads up.
 
If this is a duplication of something posted on another topic {hey, go ahead and delete it} but I was just sent this by a life long GOP/died in the wool Republican, with a note:If the GOP passes this litmus test there won't be any Republican that will be able to 'meet the bar/requirements' for getting elected to the Presidential seat! I'm not sure anyone could meet these requirements EVER!
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The Top Ten Republican Values 2009

Eric Kleefeld | November 23, 2009, 2:50PM

The Republican National Committee could be on the verge of imposing a strict purity test on GOP candidates and officeholders, if a proposed resolution passes at their upcoming meeting in January: If you disagree with the party line on three or more out of a list of ten key issues, no money or official party support for you.

The resolution, officially called "Proposed RNC Resolution on Reagan's Unity Principle for Support of Candidates" draws its standard through a literal interpretation of an old saying of the Gipper's -- that someone who agreed with him 80% of the time is his friend, not his 20% enemy. Thus, this resolution sets 80% as a floor for support of GOP issues.

The resolution could set up a new problem for chairman Michael Steele. Earlier this year, he successfully turned back a symbolic measure that called upon the Democratic Party to rename itself the "Democrat Socialist Party." This latest resolution -- coming after the NY-23 special election, in which moderate GOP nominee Dede Scozzafava was forced out in favor of a third-party Conservative, who then lost to the Democrat -- could have real material impacts.
And the resolution concludes that any candidates who disagrees with three out of ten of these, "as identified by the voting record, public statements and/or signed questionnaire of the candidate," shall be ineligible for the national party's endorsement or financial support.

This is the score that was used to determine the current rank. This changes weekly. A score of at least 5.0 is required to be ranked).

1. We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's "stimulus" bill;
2. We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run healthcare;
3. We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;
4. We support workers' right to secret ballot by opposing card check;
5. We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;
6. We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;
7. We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;
8. We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;
9. We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and
10. We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership;
[source: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/a-purity-test-for-the-gop.php?ref=fpa ]
 
If this is a duplication of something posted on another topic {hey, go ahead and delete it} but I was just sent this by a life long GOP/died in the wool Republican, with a note:If the GOP passes this litmus test there won't be any Republican that will be able to 'meet the bar/requirements' for getting elected to the Presidential seat! I'm not sure anyone could meet these requirements EVER!
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The Top Ten Republican Values 2009

Eric Kleefeld | November 23, 2009, 2:50PM

The Republican National Committee could be on the verge of imposing a strict purity test on GOP candidates and officeholders, if a proposed resolution passes at their upcoming meeting in January: If you disagree with the party line on three or more out of a list of ten key issues, no money or official party support for you.

The resolution, officially called "Proposed RNC Resolution on Reagan's Unity Principle for Support of Candidates" draws its standard through a literal interpretation of an old saying of the Gipper's -- that someone who agreed with him 80% of the time is his friend, not his 20% enemy. Thus, this resolution sets 80% as a floor for support of GOP issues.

The resolution could set up a new problem for chairman Michael Steele. Earlier this year, he successfully turned back a symbolic measure that called upon the Democratic Party to rename itself the "Democrat Socialist Party." This latest resolution -- coming after the NY-23 special election, in which moderate GOP nominee Dede Scozzafava was forced out in favor of a third-party Conservative, who then lost to the Democrat -- could have real material impacts.
And the resolution concludes that any candidates who disagrees with three out of ten of these, "as identified by the voting record, public statements and/or signed questionnaire of the candidate," shall be ineligible for the national party's endorsement or financial support.

This is the score that was used to determine the current rank. This changes weekly. A score of at least 5.0 is required to be ranked).

1. We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's "stimulus" bill;
2. We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run healthcare;
3. We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;
4. We support workers' right to secret ballot by opposing card check;
5. We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;
6. We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;
7. We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;
8. We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;
9. We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and
10. We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership;
[source: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/a-purity-test-for-the-gop.php?ref=fpa ]


why would anyone claiming to represent the GOP not be able to say ok to at least half of these ?
 
why would anyone claiming to represent the GOP not be able to say ok to at least half of these ?

Call me STUPID...but doesn't it all depend on what your constituents want you to THINK about each and every issue :confused:

We seem to have this 'NEED' to box everyone into a category and never be allowed to think outside of the BOX/ISSUE! So will this be a plausible option if the GOP actually votes on it...seems to me that this will be very interesting to see if it will actually pass the entire delegation!
 
Call me STUPID...but doesn't it all depend on what your constituents want you to THINK about each and every issue :confused:

We seem to have this 'NEED' to box everyone into a category and never be allowed to think outside of the BOX/ISSUE! So will this be a plausible option if the GOP actually votes on it...seems to me that this will be very interesting to see if it will actually pass the entire delegation!


Most of them revolve around what used to be either core GOP values (small govt) Constitutionality (2nd amendment) rule of law (Iran, illegals, no murder even if its just a "lump of cells").

If any GOP pol can't find five to hang his hat on, he has no business being in the party.
 
Ok, lets work on this #1 first...correct me if my memory failed me but didn't the republicans start this stimulus package last November 2008 and we {both parties} just kept stuffing more & more $$$$ into to it?
1. We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's "stimulus" bill;

So if we both agree then this is a 'NON ISSUE' and can't really be used as a GOP litmus test/standard to go by...hell most of the seated Senate & House voted for that stimulus package {that emergency bailout to stop the free fall of our economy}!

So that should be a wash straight across the board...do you concur?
 
Ok, lets work on this #1 first...correct me if my memory failed me but didn't the republicans start this stimulus package last November 2008 and we {both parties} just kept stuffing more & more $$$$ into to it?


So if we both agree then this is a 'NON ISSUE' and can't really be used as a GOP litmus test/standard to go by...hell most of the seated Senate & House voted for that stimulus package {that emergency bailout to stop the free fall of our economy}!

So that should be a wash straight across the board...do you concur?


Smartest thing Dubya ever did was cede this over to Obama. He said the right things to calm the markets but had no hand on it and saw to it that the Dems had ownership.

The GOP wanted it to be very different but we all knew how that was going to go so I will dispute that they were the ones loading it with pork.

They had no say.
 
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This score card needs updating but I was unable to find anything more current then Sept. 2008...hmm nobody wants to see the net results of how horrible the Republicans have swayed/flip-flopped back & forth between liberal & conservative or there aren't any stats because the republicans haven't been doing their JOB:confused:
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http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28779
Top 10 Most Liberal Republican Senators
by Human Events 09/30/2008

The senators below received the 10 most liberal scores for Republicans in the National Journal’s ratings of all senators based on their rollcall votes on key economic, social and foreign policy issues during 2007.

1. Snowe, Olympia (R.-Maine) 47.8

2. Collins, Susan (R.-Maine) 47.2

3. Smith, Gordon (R.-Ore.) 47.2
4. Specter, Arlen (R.-Pa.) 45.5

5. Coleman, Norm, (R-Minn.) 42.5

6. Lugar, Richard (R.-Ind.) 41.8

7. Voinovich, George (R.-Ohio) 41.8

8. Warner, John (R.-Va.) 38.8

9. Hagel, Chuck (R.-Neb.) 38.7

10. Stevens, Ted, (R.-Alaska) 36​
 
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