How did life start ?

[the annoying thing]

YOu cannot prove either of these.

You are not actually the one who decides what the principles of science are.

What is a "miracle"? It is generally defined as something that violates the laws of the physics.
Of course, we do not yet know all the laws of physics, so we cannot accurately call any event a miracle.

For life to occur, all that needs to happen is that some chemical compound develops the ability to reproduce itself, as a virus or an amoeba does. This is an occurrence so rare that so far it has not been replicated in a laboratory. But of course, there are many factors that occur in the natural world that are not possible to occur in a lab. Intense bombardment of all possible atomic and subatomic particles in every combination.

The probability of this occurring is FAR greater than the probability that the Earth was created by an eternal being who also felt it necessary to surround the Earth with a nearly infinite assortment of solar systems, galaxies, nebulae and dark matter.

Lol so matter creates it's selfs
And life creates it's self explain both your claims.
You say mark can not prove his claim well you prove your claim like Trump is a drug user.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

All that aside, the chances of life starting as it did is billions to one.
Needless to see, it happened and here we are.
As for a god doing it, there's not a speck of evidence.

Billions to one in a universe that has existed for billions of years.
Again, spontaneous life generation is more probable than an eternal god with all the defined attributes he is given.
It would appear to be one or the other.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Lol so matter creates it's selfs
And life creates it's self explain both your claims.
You say mark can not prove his claim well you prove your claim like Trump is a drug user.

Trump is constantly sniffing and he frequently goes ranting off incoherently. His behavior is clearly not that of a sane person.

 

[Boris Norris]

Billions to one in a universe that has existed for billions of years.
Again, spontaneous life generation is more probable than an eternal god with all the defined attributes he is given.
It would appear to be one or the other.

It would appear to be but it's only one.

 

[the annoying thing]

What's funny is how

Billions to one in a universe that has existed for billions of years.
Again, spontaneous life generation is more probable than an eternal god with all the defined attributes he is given.
It would appear to be one or the other.

I think intelligent life is very special . The series of event that resulted in us was extraordinarily to say the least and in the end it all hinged on a meter hitting earth and wiping out all the dominate species. And us surviving has to be a rear rarity , with out it we would not have existed.
As for a god we have no clue what god was if he existed . To early man a alien could who seeded us we simply do not know . I believe science experiments were performed and it clearly did not create life. What or how it started we do not know .

 

[mark francis]

Billions to one in a universe that has existed for billions of years.
Again, spontaneous life generation is more probable than an eternal god with all the defined attributes he is given.
It would appear to be one or the other.

The dull and ignorant are taken by foolishness that sounds wise to them because it comes from those the dull and ignorant look up to for instructions of scientific opinions that specifically opposes God. Here is one 'principle' that rubes believe that is absolutely false:

[Attributing the origin of life to spontaneous generation.] However improbable we regard this event, it will almost certainly happen at least once.... The time... is of the order of two billion years.... Given so much time, the "impossible" becomes possible, the possible probable, and the probable virtually certain. One only has to wait: time itself performs the miracles.

George Wald

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Again, a universe that has always contained matter and energy or other things that can convert into matter and energy makes far more sense that an eternal deity that creates the entire universe out of nothing at all.

 

[mark francis]

Again, a universe that has always contained matter and energy or other things that can convert into matter and energy makes far more sense that an eternal deity that creates the entire universe out of nothing at all.

You claim matter and energy are eternal? Really? That should help you accept also the fact that God is eternal, without beginning of days or end of life.

 

[Boris Norris]

You claim matter and energy are eternal? Really? That should help you accept also the fact that God is eternal, without beginning of days or end of life.

It would make YOU believe it and including no evidence.
You don't even know if god exists so to suggest it is eternal is a big stretch.

 

[Tripoli]

Was it in a primordial tidal pool or perhaps a volcanic vent , was it just a random coincidental event that just happened to have all the ingredients for life, a mix of carbon hydrogen nitrogen oxygen Sulphur calcium iron zinc sodium water among others that just happened to for Amino acids and proteins and other including a membrane of sorts or was it DNA and or RNA from another planet hitching a ride on a asteroid .
Add in some heat and light and a little lighting you might get life . Again you might try and fail 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 times in a row. There's no true knowledge of how it started or did it get a boost perhaps . People often use the word god and some bitterly deny he exists. Fact is no one know how life got started , and what we refer to as god could be ? we really do not know now do we. A alien on earth 200,000 years ago would indeed be a god or there could be a real god or we could just be a simple coincidental event. No one really knows. We have combined water oxygen methane ammonia and hydrogen in a test tube with a electric arc and created Amnio acids with out which life can not exist as we know it . All those things existed on earth for billions of years .

Well my grandparents left Hungary for Ellis Island then they settled in the Hungarian section of Newark thank God that my parents left that dem shithole, then my father knocked up my mother and here I am.

Any more questions

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

You claim matter and energy are eternal? Really? That should help you accept also the fact that God is eternal, without beginning of days or end of life.

That makes zero sense.
You cannot prove that God even exists, let alone that the Biblical character knows as "God" is eternal.

If anything is eternal, a specific amount of energy, mass and whatever that can change due to physical conditions is.

An eternal omnipotent being that creates a YUGE universe so that he can fiddle around on just one planet for several thousand years of of NOTHING, well, that is just silly.