It is Mathematically Impossible for There to be NO Creator

[Phoenix68]

It is Mathematically Impossible for There to be NO Creator​

I'm guessing no one's ever accused you o' being a Math Major.​

 

[Phoenix68]

 

[Phoenix68]

It is Mathematically Impossible for There to be NO Creator

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God Is Impossible ​

 

[Boris Norris]

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God Is Impossible ​

If there was a god, how proud would he be to his existence being proven by a series of numbers.
It really does show the desperation the Jesus junkies are. Now faith isn't enough. They've resorted to an abacus.

 

[lawland]

It is Mathematically Impossible for There to be NO Creator

In 1943, the distinguished French mathematician Émile Borel stated that “events with a sufficiently small probability never occur” (Institute of Mathematical Statistics).

Dr. Borel chose a fairly safe number, 10 to the power of 50, written as View attachment 2063

For you average folks, that is expressed as one in 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Anything with a lower probability than that would not happen, said Borel the numbers man.

Is it hard to wrap your head around that one? How's this:

The “infinite monkey theorem” this states that if enough monkeys pound the keys of enough typewriters (hundred of trillions?) they will eventually write the complete works of Shakespeare. While this is theoretically possible, in fact, it can never happen, and therefore constitutes a "statistical" or mathematical impossibility.

As for Earth and Man, the odds that the number of variables needed for life to just come about on its own, from the earth being the right size and the right distance from the sun, tilted on the correct axis, to the chemical make-up of all the elements and the combination of water and land, to life itself just spontaneously coming into being, and then evolving into man, and all the millions of other variables that come in between those . . . .the odds of that number of variables actually coming together by chance is far beyond 10 to the power of 50, and therefore while it is theoretically possible, it is actually no more possible than a monkey accidentally typing the entire works of Shakespeare.

So, there you go all you big science and math fans. God must exist. The math says so.

Despite dealing with something as fascinating as "what could be or happen," Probability as a discipline tends to be short on an appreciation of the miraculous, and by this I don't intend to invoke the rigid binaries of religion vs science or enchantment vs enlightenment. Though it has been argued that the enlightenment has engendered a different kind of enchantment--an enchantment with scientific progress, the efforts to number, quantify, and order reality. Ordering reality thus is one way to examine it, and it means that reality can be usefully examined this way, but it doesn't follow that reality itself in intrinsically, fundamentally ordered. To make the latter leap is to make an erroneous transductive claim. Similarly, one cannot say that "events with sufficiently small probability will never occur"; the statement is both transductive and contradictory; unless of course one means that "events with sufficiently small probability may never occur in one's lifetime." This modification might be more accurate.

 

[pjmret]

and in particular with respect to this specific thread, if you invent probabilities to start with, you've departed from reality.

like the OP's first post: "As for Earth and Man, the odds that the number of variables needed for life to just come about on its own, from the earth being the right size and the right distance from the sun, tilted on the correct axis, to the chemical make-up of all the elements and the combination of water and land, to life itself just spontaneously coming into being, and then evolving into man, and all the millions of other variables that come in between those . . . .the odds of that number of variables actually coming together by chance is far beyond 10 to the power of 50, and therefore while it is theoretically possible, it is actually no more possible than a monkey accidentally typing the entire works of Shakespeare."

nothing there actually shows anything specific or measurable, just vague handwaving.

as opposed to events like flipping a coin, where you can make more rational statements like "the chances of getting 1000 heads in a row" has a demonstratable probability, which you can then discuss about "in your lifetime" or not.

 

[Phoenix68]

Despite dealing with something as fascinating as "what could be or happen," Probability as a discipline tends to be short on an appreciation of the miraculous....

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....i.e. "faith" vs. actual-knowledge.
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Why Science Is The ONLY Way Out of Belief-Dependent Realism
July 1, 2011​

 

[Boris Norris]

The point is none of that happened by chance nor was a silly god involved.
Not understanding the cosmos is the first step to a life of ignorance and nothing can ever be obtained from ignorance.

 

[AugustineJurnior]

It is Mathematically Impossible for There to be NO Creator

In 1943, the distinguished French mathematician Émile Borel stated that “events with a sufficiently small probability never occur” (Institute of Mathematical Statistics).

Dr. Borel chose a fairly safe number, 10 to the power of 50, written as View attachment 2063

For you average folks, that is expressed as one in 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Anything with a lower probability than that would not happen, said Borel the numbers man.

Is it hard to wrap your head around that one? How's this:

The “infinite monkey theorem” this states that if enough monkeys pound the keys of enough typewriters (hundred of trillions?) they will eventually write the complete works of Shakespeare. While this is theoretically possible, in fact, it can never happen, and therefore constitutes a "statistical" or mathematical impossibility.

As for Earth and Man, the odds that the number of variables needed for life to just come about on its own, from the earth being the right size and the right distance from the sun, tilted on the correct axis, to the chemical make-up of all the elements and the combination of water and land, to life itself just spontaneously coming into being, and then evolving into man, and all the millions of other variables that come in between those . . . .the odds of that number of variables actually coming together by chance is far beyond 10 to the power of 50, and therefore while it is theoretically possible, it is actually no more possible than a monkey accidentally typing the entire works of Shakespeare.

So, there you go all you big science and math fans. God must exist. The math says so.

But that is not as airtight as the Natural Theology arguments for a Creator. For those arguments involve the very legitimacy of reason itself.
Why do we expect an answer from reason rather than a crystal ball, or ouija board , or sheep entrails ? Because of the LOGOS doctrine : The Reasonable God made a reasonable world and we are in the image and likeness of God with reason also.