Obama blaming Bush & not himself at the Republican retreat, for all the things that have happened, since his inaugaration as president last January is crazy. He believes his own hype, he believes he's the messiah & he's the coolest dude on the planet. The president is out of control, more so than GWB ever was & he's on TV constantly, that it's sickening. It's all his fault politically, from the economy, to the bailouts, to health care reform, to the war on terror & he seems to be losing at every turn. President Obama is an MSNBC phenomenom to conservative Republicans, he's their trophy president, just like George W. Bush was to Fox News by liberal Democrats.
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It's All Obama's Fault After His Inaugaration.
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oH pLEEEESE!
Republicants won't even admit President Bush was President when 9-11 happened and you want to try an feed us that canned corn! oH pLEEEESE!
GenSeneca
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I've got Top Gun on ignore but let me guess some of his talking points:
Someone who doesn't have him on ignore, tell me how many I got right.
Now in fairness to Obama, he really cannot be saddled with all the blame but to dismiss his role and pretend like he has no blame is equally disingenuous. Obama did have a big mess, but he campaigned for the job. He said he had a plan. He said he knew what he was getting himself into. Obama's massive deficit spending his first year, was only possible with the help of Republicans, those new debts were a bipartisan effort.
If a sustained recovery had begun on 1/21/09 and continued to this day, Obama and the Democrats would be claiming full credit for everything, except the deficits and debt - Bush's fault (never mind they voted with Bush to get them passed). As we are now, typical partisan fashion, everything good that happens is a result of the current administration and everything bad is the fault of the previous one. It was that way with Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush and it will be that way with the next administration.
- Bush Recession/Depression
- He mentioned the money we've spent in Iraq
- Bush is a liar
- Obama is trying to clean up after 8 years of disaster
- Grab a mop
- Stop complaining
- Lead, follow, or get out of the way
- Obama Worship (good family man, just wants to help the little guy etc.)
- Republicant
- Obstructionists
- Party of "NO"
Someone who doesn't have him on ignore, tell me how many I got right.
Now in fairness to Obama, he really cannot be saddled with all the blame but to dismiss his role and pretend like he has no blame is equally disingenuous. Obama did have a big mess, but he campaigned for the job. He said he had a plan. He said he knew what he was getting himself into. Obama's massive deficit spending his first year, was only possible with the help of Republicans, those new debts were a bipartisan effort.
If a sustained recovery had begun on 1/21/09 and continued to this day, Obama and the Democrats would be claiming full credit for everything, except the deficits and debt - Bush's fault (never mind they voted with Bush to get them passed). As we are now, typical partisan fashion, everything good that happens is a result of the current administration and everything bad is the fault of the previous one. It was that way with Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush and it will be that way with the next administration.
I've got Top Gun on ignore but let me guess some of his talking points:
- Bush Recession/Depression
- He mentioned the money we've spent in Iraq
- Bush is a liar
- Obama is trying to clean up after 8 years of disaster
- Grab a mop
- Stop complaining
- Lead, follow, or get out of the way
- Obama Worship (good family man, just wants to help the little guy etc.)
- Republicant
- Obstructionists
- Party of "NO"
Someone who doesn't have him on ignore, tell me how many I got right.
Now in fairness to Obama, he really cannot be saddled with all the blame but to dismiss his role and pretend like he has no blame is equally disingenuous. Obama did have a big mess, but he campaigned for the job. He said he had a plan. He said he knew what he was getting himself into. Obama's massive deficit spending his first year, was only possible with the help of Republicans, those new debts were a bipartisan effort.
If a sustained recovery had begun on 1/21/09 and continued to this day, Obama and the Democrats would be claiming full credit for everything, except the deficits and debt - Bush's fault (never mind they voted with Bush to get them passed). As we are now, typical partisan fashion, everything good that happens is a result of the current administration and everything bad is the fault of the previous one. It was that way with Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush and it will be that way with the next administration.
even lamer than that, you would be surprised
The Left always says Bush was a liar, Obama is lying through his teeth, about the economy, the deficit & the war on terror. It's all the president's fault now, he's in charge of everything, no matter how hard Keith Olbermann doesn't like it, blaming GWB will backfire bad this year.
ASPCA4EVER
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Man, you 'right winged nut jobs' just whine when it's politics as usual...but did you complain when dear little GEORGIE did it to Bill Clinton...NOT LIKELY...LMAO
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Hume: The Bush Administration Didn’t Really Blame Clinton For 9/11
By Amanda Terkel on Apr 12th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Last week on Hannity, former Florida governor Jeb Bush implored Obama to stop criticizing his brother’s legacy. “If I had one humble criticism of President Obama, it would be to stop this notion of somehow framing everything in the context of, ‘Everything was bad before I got here,’” said Bush.
Today the panelists on Fox News Sunday discussed these comments, and whether Obama is out of bounds by invoking his predecessor’s failed policies. Even Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol said that it’s normal for presidents to blame current problems on their predecessors. “The Democrats blamed Herbert Hoover for everything for about 20 years, and the Republicans blamed Jimmy Carter for everything for quite awhile,” said Kristol.
When NPR news analyst Juan Williams then pointed out that President Bush and his administration officials also often blamed the Clinton administration for their problems, Fox News’s Brit Hume jumped in and said, “There was very little of that”:
WILLIAMS: This is just politics. That’s what you do. You blame your predecessor and you do it for as long as possible because it buys you time. And even after 9/11, all the Bush administration officials were pointing out, “Hey, what about that Bill Clinton? Why didn’t he do a better job with getting the terrorists when he had the opportunity?”
HUME: There was very little of that.
WILLIAMS: Well, it was around. In fact, I think Bill Clinton got into it with you [Wallace] about just that point.
HUME: Yeah, but Chris doesn’t represent the Bush administration.
WALLACE: I don’t remember that exchange. (LAUGHTER)
Watch it: HUME: There was very little of that.
WILLIAMS: Well, it was around. In fact, I think Bill Clinton got into it with you [Wallace] about just that point.
HUME: Yeah, but Chris doesn’t represent the Bush administration.
WALLACE: I don’t remember that exchange. (LAUGHTER)
In fact, in a September 2006 interview with the New York Post editorial board, then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice received considerable attention for placing the blame squarely on the shoulders of President Clinton:
Nobody organized this country or the international community to fight the terrorist threat that was upon us until 9/11. … We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al-Qaida. For instance, big pieces were missing, like an approach to Pakistan that might work, because without Pakistan you weren’t going to get Afghanistan.
In a speech on Aug. 30, 2005, Bush said that three out of his four predecessors — excluding his father — didn’t respond sufficiently to crises, which emboldened terrorists and led to 9/11:
They looked at our response after the hostage crisis in Iran, the bombings of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the first World Trade Center attack, the killing of American soldiers in Somalia, the destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. They concluded that free societies lacked the courage and character to defend themselves against a determined enemy. … After September the 11th, 2001, we’ve taught the terrorists a very different lesson: America will not run in defeat and we will not forget our responsibilities.
On the domestic front, Bush and his advisers also repeatedly said that they “inherited a recession” from Clinton.
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G.W.B. inherited a recession...sure and when he kept handing out all of those stimulus checks that was because he had a vault full of cash that just needed to be handed out to all of AMERICA...sure seems to have bought him some votes or did any of you just send your check back
BTW...GenSeneca {master of all your domain} rather telling you had to ask what TopGun had to say...discover a way to undo that IGNORE OPTION or quit asking the members to do your translations for you!!! Bad form, bad attitude, just pathetic and sad
That you the grand POO-PAH of fair play have put TopGun on Ignore is just the epitome of hypocrite...what happened he catch you in one two many lies and it bent you out of shape...LMAO
If only Obama would STAY on his Basketball & Golf craze and Let America run itself , missing his "PROGRESSIVE " warfare agenda to DESTROY AMERICA, if he would try and become another " Wilt the Stilt" or "Lee Elder" he could seek his unreachable dream and SAVE AMERICA TOO, which is NOT his dream, but will hapen if he will concentrate on "Courts" and "Greens" and forget about "LIES " and " SCHEMES" !!!
Obama claims Bush #43 left him a mess , can you just imagine what our President #45 will walk into come January 2013!!!
She will be entering another HAITI without the QUAKE!!
NOTHING destroys like Ignorance, Neglect, and Arrogrance!!
AMERICA, AMERICA, may GOD shed his GRACE on thee
And PROTECT us from this DISGRACE from SEA to Shining SEA!
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Man, you 'right winged nut jobs' just whine when it's politics as usual...but did you complain when dear little GEORGIE did it to Bill Clinton...NOT LIKELY...LMAO
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Hume: The Bush Administration Didn’t Really Blame Clinton For 9/11
By Amanda Terkel on Apr 12th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Last week on Hannity, former Florida governor Jeb Bush implored Obama to stop criticizing his brother’s legacy. “If I had one humble criticism of President Obama, it would be to stop this notion of somehow framing everything in the context of, ‘Everything was bad before I got here,’” said Bush.
Today the panelists on Fox News Sunday discussed these comments, and whether Obama is out of bounds by invoking his predecessor’s failed policies. Even Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol said that it’s normal for presidents to blame current problems on their predecessors. “The Democrats blamed Herbert Hoover for everything for about 20 years, and the Republicans blamed Jimmy Carter for everything for quite awhile,” said Kristol.
When NPR news analyst Juan Williams then pointed out that President Bush and his administration officials also often blamed the Clinton administration for their problems, Fox News’s Brit Hume jumped in and said, “There was very little of that”:WILLIAMS: This is just politics. That’s what you do. You blame your predecessor and you do it for as long as possible because it buys you time. And even after 9/11, all the Bush administration officials were pointing out, “Hey, what about that Bill Clinton? Why didn’t he do a better job with getting the terrorists when he had the opportunity?”Watch it:
HUME: There was very little of that.
WILLIAMS: Well, it was around. In fact, I think Bill Clinton got into it with you [Wallace] about just that point.
HUME: Yeah, but Chris doesn’t represent the Bush administration.
WALLACE: I don’t remember that exchange. (LAUGHTER)
In fact, in a September 2006 interview with the New York Post editorial board, then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice received considerable attention for placing the blame squarely on the shoulders of President Clinton:Nobody organized this country or the international community to fight the terrorist threat that was upon us until 9/11. … We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al-Qaida. For instance, big pieces were missing, like an approach to Pakistan that might work, because without Pakistan you weren’t going to get Afghanistan.In a speech on Aug. 30, 2005, Bush said that three out of his four predecessors — excluding his father — didn’t respond sufficiently to crises, which emboldened terrorists and led to 9/11:
They looked at our response after the hostage crisis in Iran, the bombings of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the first World Trade Center attack, the killing of American soldiers in Somalia, the destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. They concluded that free societies lacked the courage and character to defend themselves against a determined enemy. … After September the 11th, 2001, we’ve taught the terrorists a very different lesson: America will not run in defeat and we will not forget our responsibilities.On the domestic front, Bush and his advisers also repeatedly said that they “inherited a recession” from Clinton.
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G.W.B. inherited a recession...sure and when he kept handing out all of those stimulus checks that was because he had a vault full of cash that just needed to be handed out to all of AMERICA...sure seems to have bought him some votes or did any of you just send your check back
BTW...GenSeneca {master of all your domain} rather telling you had to ask what TopGun had to say...discover a way to undo that IGNORE OPTION or quit asking the members to do your translations for you!!! Bad form, bad attitude, just pathetic and sad
That you the grand POO-PAH of fair play have put TopGun on Ignore is just the epitome of hypocrite...what happened he catch you in one two many lies and it bent you out of shape...LMAO
Did Bush blame Clinton or did he just work on getting it fixed ?
And by Bush I mean George W Bush himself.
Oh, and his stimulus checks did nothing either. But those tax cuts sure did.
ASPCA4EVER
Well-Known Member
His many speeches and speeches provided by his White House staff/aides are out there in the google world...but yes, G.W.B. spent quite a bit of his first year in office laying the blame for anything and everything that he could at the feet of Clinton...but that's how our politics seem to work...so this incessant complaining about President Obama's blame game is just how the game is played
Oh, well in my math world having a 500 million {or was it Billion}dollar surplus until you gave it all away seems a good plan for getting elected {just hard to get those folks to pay attention to the cost of those wars when your handing out the funny money} but people did spent those bucks and never thought twice about the long range affect! But you have your version and I'm living the reality
His many speeches and speeches provided by his White House staff/aides are out there in the google world...but yes, G.W.B. spent quite a bit of his first year in office laying the blame for anything and everything that he could at the feet of Clinton...but that's how our politics seem to work...so this incessant complaining about President Obama's blame game is just how the game is played
care to cite an example of him doing it ?
Oh, well in my math world having a 500 million {or was it Billion}dollar surplus until you gave it all away seems a good plan for getting elected {just hard to get those folks to pay attention to the cost of those wars when your handing out the funny money} but people did spent those bucks and never thought twice about the long range affect! But you have your version and I'm living the reality
86.4b
but 236b was SS surplus so it was really more like a 160b deficit.
you enjoy "reality" with very narrow blinders.
samsara15
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That remains to be seen. You Conservatives have a very bad habit of shooting yourselves in the foot. Much of which comes from your inability to accept moderation or compromise.
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GenSeneca
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When good compromises with evil, it's always evil that wins. Collectivism is evil and there is no room for compromise.
