obozo's new war

[Dr.Who]

The self-absorption of little Americans, who seem to be the dominant species on this forum never ceases to amaze me.

This is a UN operation, not a US one, and one cobbled together mainly by Europe.

Of course, if it is a success, then we can all expect the blowhards in the US to claim the credit etc etc etc.

This is a surgical operation to remove a malignant influence who falsely claims to be a socialist.

Gaddafi is history and after him, Mugabe will follow.

Comrade Stalin

If this were the "World News" thread or the "World Politics" thread you would have a point. But this is posted on the "US Politics" thread. We are discussing the US's involvement in a UN action.

Almost no one is saying that the US initiated the attacks on Libya. (with the possible exception of post #22 which said that this is not about oil because the US gets little oil from Libya)

So just who is it that thinks we think this is all or mostly about the US? I think it is you.

P.S. apparently you are not a resident of the US. That makes me glad that there is one less communist living here. You are probably a fine person but your politics are dangerous.

 

[Rick]

The self-absorption of little Americans, who seem to be the dominant species on this forum never ceases to amaze me.

This is a UN operation, not a US one, and one cobbled together mainly by Europe.

Of course, if it is a success, then we can all expect the blowhards in the US to claim the credit etc etc etc.

This is a surgical operation to remove a malignant influence who falsely claims to be a socialist.

Gaddafi is history and after him, Mugabe will follow.

Comrade Stalin

This isn't a UN operation - the UN doesn't have operations, just resolutions, usually anti-US or anti-Israel. (Which makes me wonder yet again - why does the US STILL belong to that farce?)

The operation is run by NATO. Without the US taking out the air defense, the euroweenies would have no chance. Their military capability is about what it's being used for now - bombing people who only have small arms. Euroweenie military prowess is minimal, because they spend their money on five week vacations, and bloated welfare states which are going bankrupt anyway.

 

[BigRob]

The thread started talking about tribalism, which any sharp 12 year old can tell you doesn't just pertain to tribes. Anyone who read at least two news articles about the iraq war (which you dragged into the thread) and who has an IQ over 80 knows the main civil war component of the iraq war was about sunni vs shiite.

Those of us with an education beyond that of a "sharp 12 year old" can readily tell you that attempting to sum up the tribal dynamic of the Middle East in terms of "Sunni vs. Shiite" is simply lunacy.

 

[Rick]

Those of us with an education beyond that of a "sharp 12 year old" can readily tell you that attempting to sum up the tribal dynamic of the Middle East in terms of "Sunni vs. Shiite" is simply lunacy.

I'm going to rename you Mr. Jello - every time someone nails you down, you squish away to the other side of the plate. First it was about Libya, then Iraq, now the whole mideast - what will you bring in next - "tribes" on Pluto?

Did you play football in high school? If so, what did you do - move the goal posts all over the stadium during the game?

 

[BigRob]

I'm going to rename you Mr. Jello - every time someone nails you down, you squish away to the other side of the plate. First it was about Libya, then Iraq, now the whole mideast - what will you bring in next - "tribes" on Pluto?

Did you play football in high school? If so, what did you do - move the goal posts all over the stadium during the game?

If tribalism as a concept applied to the entire Middle East is beyond your comprehension, then so be it...

You continually seem to miss the entire point, so I'll just end my responses to you in this regard.

 

[Pidgey]

Hogwash. A leftwinger like obozo acts against the US interest at every turn.

Somebody once said:

"The primary function of government is to pretend to fail."

And, d@mn, but they're good at it...

Virtually all governments from most of time have been about controlling law and its application to help business along. Obama's DEFINITELY in it for the plutocracy--he doesn't have the least bit of concern for "The Little People". However... he needs to LOOK like he does. But make no mistake about it--the folks "above" him are writing his script.

Anyhow, our involvement with Libya was probably just mostly to insure that neither the rebels nor Qaddafi (however it's spelled) can't so easily do surgical strikes on their oil production facilities. We'd probably rather that both sides simply degrade their abilities to make war down to the "hand to hand combat" level.

 

[Rick]

If tribalism as a concept applied to the entire Middle East is beyond your comprehension, then so be it...

You continually seem to miss the entire point, so I'll just end my responses to you in this regard.

You keep >>>CHANGING<<< "the point" - OF COURSE tribalism is all over the middle east - so are age-old religious conflicts, so are ideological conflicts, so are national conflicts, so are different governing systems, so are different ethnic conflicts apart from tribalism and religion, histories are different, wealth distribution is different, geography is different, the histories of different area are different - on and on and on.

 

[Stalin]

You are probably a fine person but your politics are dangerous.

It is the other way around.

I am a dangerous person but my politics are just fine.

Comrade Stalin

 

[Dr.Who]

It is the other way around.

I am a dangerous person but my politics are just fine.

Comrade Stalin

Not knowing you I have little choice but to trust you when you say you are a dangerous person.

But knowing your politics I am certain that they are dangerous.

The conclusion then is that you are a dangerous person with dangerous politics. Would you care to give us incriminating details about how you are dangerous and where the police can find you?

 

[Stalin]

Not knowing you I have little choice but to trust you when you say you are a dangerous person.

But knowing your politics I am certain that they are dangerous.

The conclusion then is that you are a dangerous person with dangerous politics. Would you care to give us incriminating details about how you are dangerous and where the police can find you?

Dangerous is not violent.

Gandi was dangerous as was Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela.

Comrade Stalin

 

[Gipper]

Dangerous is not violent.

Gandi was dangerous as was Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela.

Comrade Stalin

Anyone using the screen name of histories greatest mass murderer and who compares himself to three of histories greatest NONVIOLENT leaders, is a joke and a propagandist.

No one should pay any attention to someone so delusional.

 

[Dr.Who]

Dangerous is not violent.

Gandi was dangerous as was Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela.

Comrade Stalin

The definition of danger involves the idea that someone would be harmed. Ghandi for example was only dangerous in a metaphorical way. He was a threat to the established order that was dangerous but he himself was actually not a danger and was not planning to harm anyone.

If you mean that you are only dangerous in a metaphorical way also then I don't really care to report you to the police. If you mean that you are actually a threat to someone's well being then I would like to get the details.

 

[Rick]

The definition of danger involves the idea that someone would be harmed. Ghandi for example was only dangerous in a metaphorical way. He was a threat to the established order that was dangerous but he himself was actually not a danger and was not planning to harm anyone.

If you mean that you are only dangerous in a metaphorical way also then I don't really care to report you to the police. If you mean that you are actually a threat to someone's well being then I would like to get the details.

"Stalin" is the worst kind of ultimate danger - one of the dupes who supports a philosophy which has resulted in less than a century in about 100 million people killed, and untold human suffereing.

 

[Stalin]

Anyone using the screen name of histories greatest mass murderer and who compares himself to three of histories greatest NONVIOLENT leaders, is a joke and a propagandist.

No one should pay any attention to someone so delusional.

And yet you keep replying to my posts.

With the same irrelevant comment each time.

Comrade Stalin

 

[Stalin]

The definition of danger involves the idea that someone would be harmed. to the established order that was dangerous but he himself was actuallyGhandi for example was only dangerous in a metaphorical way. He was a threat not a danger and was not planning to harm anyone.

If you mean that you are only dangerous in a metaphorical way also then I don't really care to report you to the police. If you mean that you are actually a threat to someone's well being then I would like to get the details.

You are a threat to good grammar and sentence construction.

Comrade Stalin