Socialists' goal finally being attained: Cyprus govt confiscates 10% of savings accounts

[steveox]

He posted fact, yet you are WARNING him? WTF? The JEWS, as they are wont to do, betrayed their own Messiah. You wish to argue the point? I surely hope not, for you would lose.

Saxon prove dog wrong on this. The story says how the Jews betrayed Jesus. They didn't believe he was the son of GOD. So they killed him because the Jews say he was a false prophet.

 

[dogtowner]

Saxon prove dog wrong on this. The story says how the Jews betrayed Jesus. They didn't believe he was the son of GOD. So they killed him because the Jews say he was a false prophet.

Which jew was it who killed Christ ? You seem to have read the Bible, should be easy to find.\

Or perhaps you too mistake betray for kill.

 

[Gipper]

Cronyism and quantitative easing are two examples. Both dems and pubs engage in both of these.

Of course, progressive tax policy is redistribution from rich to poor and it is far more blatant.

both are wrong and many here have been outspoken against both, except that progressives tend not to find fault with progressive tax policy.

I can agree with most of that.

The problem part is the poor have NO wealth. That is why they are poor. So, how do the wealthy take the poor's wealth, when the poor have no wealth?

Cronyism and QE do harm the poor, but are the wealthy responsible for cronyism and QE? No. So, how can the wealthy be harming the poor with cronyism and QE, when they are not responsible for cronyism and QE?

Leftists who claim the wealthy are stealing the poor's wealth, are wrong on many fronts. That is apparent. But, they must push their agenda, which is of course, Communism...which will harm the poor even MORE!!!

So...who is REALLY harming the poor? That is easy. GOVERNMENT!!!

 

[Dr.Who]

I can agree with most of that.

The problem part is the poor have NO wealth. That is why they are poor. So, how do the wealthy take the poor's wealth, when the poor have no wealth?

Cronyism and QE do harm the poor, but are the wealthy responsible for cronyism and QE? No. So, how can the wealthy be harming the poor with cronyism and QE, when they are not responsible for cronyism and QE?

Leftists who claim the wealthy are stealing the poor's wealth, are wrong on many fronts. That is apparent. But, they must push their agenda, which is of course, Communism...which will harm the poor even MORE!!!

So...who is REALLY harming the poor? That is easy. GOVERNMENT!!!

So much of that is true. Though is there really such a difference between wealthy and government? Aren't most congressmen wealthy, and don't most of them become much more wealthy as a result of being a congressman? Don't the rich and the politicians sleep in the same bed?

yes the poor have not accumulated a lot of money but they do spend thousands of dollars every year and the buying power of all of their money is greatly reduced though they can ill afford that. They are probably hurt much more by printing money than the rich. Monetary policy, tax policy, and entitlement policy, imo, hurt the poor more than any other factors.

 

[cashmcall]

So much of that is true. Though is there really such a difference between wealthy and government? Aren't most congressmen wealthy, and don't most of them become much more wealthy as a result of being a congressman? Don't the rich and the politicians sleep in the same bed?

yes the poor have not accumulated a lot of money but they do spend thousands of dollars every year and the buying power of all of their money is greatly reduced though they can ill afford that. They are probably hurt much more by printing money than the rich. Monetary policy, tax policy, and entitlement policy, imo, hurt the poor more than any other factors.

Yes..Because those policies cause inflation, and that hurts the poor more than any other group.

 

[Gipper]

So much of that is true. Though is there really such a difference between wealthy and government? Aren't most congressmen wealthy, and don't most of them become much more wealthy as a result of being a congressman? Don't the rich and the politicians sleep in the same bed?

yes the poor have not accumulated a lot of money but they do spend thousands of dollars every year and the buying power of all of their money is greatly reduced though they can ill afford that. They are probably hurt much more by printing money than the rich. Monetary policy, tax policy, and entitlement policy, imo, hurt the poor more than any other factors.

Again I agree with much of that, but not all. I do not think you can blame an entire class of people, in this case the wealthy, for the acts of a few. Yes, much of the political class and some of the wealthy are in bed together. They are doing much harm to our nation. However many wealthy people are not part of the cronyism and corruption. Many are hard working upstanding individuals doing great things for America.

The source of the problem is GOVERNMENT. Whenever in history an unlimited government existed, you have the problems we have today.

The demonization of the wealthy is a leftist tactic. They did this successfully in every historical socialist paradise ie., USSR, China, Cuba, etc... I abhor it.

 

[Dr.Who]

Again I agree with much of that, but not all. I do not think you can blame an entire class of people, in this case the wealthy, for the acts of a few. Yes, much of the political class and some of the wealthy are in bed together. They are doing much harm to our nation. However many wealthy people are not part of the cronyism and corruption. Many are hard working upstanding individuals doing great things for America.

The demonization of the wealthy is a leftist tactic. They did this successfully in every historical socialist paradise ie., USSR, China, Cuba, etc... I abhor it.

Thank you for reminding me. As always statements, policy, and laws must always apply to the individual and not groups.

When a rich person breaks the law prosecute him but do not use it as an excuse to tax other law abiding rich people. Bernie Maddoff and Leona Helmsley should go do jail but Oprah should keep every cent she earned and pay no greater percent in taxes than anyone else.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

You are forgetting that the rich make the laws

To look after the rich

They have been moderated by the left in modern times but before that they treated the poor as animals to be abused for their pleasure

The rich are generally criminals

And you are swallow their propaganda

 

[Saxon]

Drugs are subsadized in Canada which is why it was illegal to sell knowingly to non cannucks.
Taxpayers pay for those drugs one way or another but are silly enough to believe otherwise.

No, they aren't subsidized, you moron. I am CANADIAN, and I would know. Not a single government penny is used. Prices are SET by government policy. If the powerful drug corporations do not agree to the price, they are told to take their business elsewhere. You Americans are stupid enough to believe your government propaganda that claims our drugs are subsidized. It was illegal to sell our drugs to Americans because the drug cartels, er corporations demanded our government stop allowing pharmacies to sell our drugs to Americans at OUR SET PRICE because it breaks the agreement between the government and the drug corporations. The set prices were made for CANADIANS, not Americans. The drug corporations were complaining that their cash cow, dumb Americans willing to pay for overpriced drugs, were taking advantage of our lower-cost drugs, affecting their profits, which was absolutely correct. You see, you AMericans are stupid enough to pay such ridiculous costs for the drugs. We are not.

The reason that prescription medications are cheaper in Canada is complex and there are several factors that contribute to the lower costs.
The Canadian government puts a cap, or ceiling, on the amount that drug companies can charge pharmacies and other distributors of drugs. This reduces the wholesale cost of medication for most organizations throughout Canada by about five percent. The prices are determined by Canada’s Patented Medicine Prices Review Board. Since drugstores pay less for many medications, they can sell them for less.
Each of the Canadian provinces, like Quebec and Ontario, has a drug formulary that puts restrictions on the use of new and expensive medications. Since the provinces provide the bulk of drugs to higher users of medication, (seniors), they have the power to negotiate directly with pharmaceutical companies to lower prices for a medication to get on the formulary. In Ontario, for example, the formulary includes less than 35 percent of new medications.
Canadian pharmaceutical companies have lower liability costs than U.S. drug companies. Canadians are not only less likely than Americans to sue healthcare providers or drug companies but when they do sue, awards and damages are a lot lower than in the U.S. In the U.S., some economists consider the cost of liability insurance for a drug company to be similar to a “tax” on medications.

OWNED! Now, shut the fuck up and take your American propaganda and shove it up your star-spangled asshole! I am sick of Americans spouting lies about my country.

 

[Saxon]

I can agree with most of that.

The problem part is the poor have NO wealth. That is why they are poor. So, how do the wealthy take the poor's wealth, when the poor have no wealth?

Cronyism and QE do harm the poor, but are the wealthy responsible for cronyism and QE? No. So, how can the wealthy be harming the poor with cronyism and QE, when they are not responsible for cronyism and QE?

Leftists who claim the wealthy are stealing the poor's wealth, are wrong on many fronts. That is apparent. But, they must push their agenda, which is of course, Communism...which will harm the poor even MORE!!!

So...who is REALLY harming the poor? That is easy. GOVERNMENT!!!

I see tax loopholes for the rich escapes your attention, most conveniently too. The poor have no such loopholes, because they have not the ability to bribe government officials into creating such loopholes, nor the lawyers to help enforce them.

 

[cashmcall]

I see tax loopholes for the rich escapes your attention, most conveniently too. The poor have no such loopholes, because they have not the ability to bribe government officials into creating such loopholes, nor the lawyers to help enforce them.

The poor in this country do not pay taxes...

 

[Saxon]

The poor in this country do not pay taxes...

EVERYONE pays taxes. If they didn't, the IRS would have them jailed pronto. I don't care if a poor fucker has only $5 to his name, he WILL be taxed. If he/she buys a simple cup of coffee for $1, his/her ass is taxed. Please do not complete such stupid posts.

 

[cashmcall]

EVERYONE pays taxes. If they didn't, the IRS would have them jailed pronto. I don't care if a poor fucker has only $5 to his name, he WILL be taxed. If he/she buys a simple cup of coffee for $1, his/her ass is taxed. Please do not complete such stupid posts.

in your post you were talking about loopholes that the poor don't have, so in my ignorance I assumed you were talking income tax. I am sorry but I can't read your mind..read my other post on how this effects the poor, You just might learn something. Sorry for the stupid post

 

[Saxon]

in your post you were talking about loopholes that the poor don't have, so in my ignorance I assumed you were talking income tax. I am sorry but I can't read your mind..read my other post on how this effects the poor, You just might learn something. Sorry for the stupid post

Sorry for the stupid post

Exactly.

 

[cashmcall]

Exactly.

Nothing is more discouraging than unappreciated sarcasm.Sarcasm is my natural defense against stupidity.