Al Qaida is US puppet

With an ignorant statement like that, there is no point going any further.

2000 people is less than .01% of our population. Two buildings in NY had no perpose but as a bank, which, in the big picture, are not important. The pentagon had most of it's important documents in bomb-safe areas. That we could let a tiny incedent like this govern our foriegn policy baffles me.
 
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2000 people is less than .01% of our population. Two buildings in NY had no perpose but as a bank, which, in the big picture, are not important. The pentagon had most of it's important documents in bomb-safe areas. That we could let a tiny incedent like this govern our foriegn policy baffles me.

Yeah sure.

I guess we should have ignored 9/11 and told the head cutters we love them.

If only we had followed your strategy in 1941, we would be speaking German or Japanese now. Or, maybe you prefer Russian.
 
Yeah sure.

I guess we should have ignored 9/11 and told the head cutters we love them.

If only we had followed your strategy in 1941, we would be speaking German or Japanese now. Or, maybe you prefer Russian.

We should have realised that a terrorist that affiliates himself with an organisation such as Al Qaida is international, not national, and invading a country would be both meaningless and counterproductive, because it just spawned more terrorists. However, if said organisation is a U.S puppet, which it most likely is, then the purpose of 9-11 becomes brutally obvious.

In 1941, the U.S took two years of time between 1939 and 1941 to sell crap. And after 1941, the U.S had the resources and power to liberate Europe, but instead spent another 3 years messing around in the desert and ocean. And that is why most of Europe was under russian influence, because they actually did something. And WWII was not just an isolated and tiny incident, it was a mass conquest by Germany and extermination of millions. So I do not apply my 9-11 strategy to it.
 
The US is aiming for sole government of the world.

That is why it invented the war on terror. They can use it as an excuse to attack any country that stands in the way and many of the US population are stupid enough to think it is a good and noble idea.
 
The US is aiming for sole government of the world.

That is why it invented the war on terror. They can use it as an excuse to attack any country that stands in the way and many of the US population are stupid enough to think it is a good and noble idea.

Exactly. Have you read the People's History of the United States? If not, you should.
 
CIA: Osama Helped Bush in '04
By Robert Parry
July 4, 2006

On Oct. 29, 2004, just four days before the U.S. presidential election, al-Qaeda leader Osama bin-Laden released a videotape denouncing George W. Bush. Some Bush supporters quickly spun the diatribe as "Osama's endorsement of John Kerry." But behind the walls of the CIA, analysts had concluded the opposite: that bin-Laden was trying to help Bush gain a second term.

According to Suskind's book, CIA analysts had spent years "parsing each expressed word of the al-Qaeda leader and his deputy, [Ayman] Zawahiri. What they'd learned over nearly a decade is that bin-Laden speaks only for strategic reasons. …

"Their [the CIA's] assessments, at day's end, are a distillate of the kind of secret, internal conversations that the American public [was] not sanctioned to hear: strategic analysis. Today's conclusion: bin-Laden's message was clearly designed to assist the President's reelection.
"At the five o'clock meeting, [deputy CIA director] John McLaughlin opened the issue with the consensus view: 'Bin-Laden certainly did a nice favor today for the President.'"

McLaughlin's comment drew nods from CIA officers at the table. Jami Miscik, CIA deputy associate director for intelligence, suggested that the al-Qaeda founder may have come to Bush's aid because bin-Laden felt threatened by the rise in Iraq of Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi; bin-Laden might have thought his leadership would be diminished if Bush lost the White House and their "eye-to-eye struggle" ended.

....the CIA analysts also felt that bin-Laden might have recognized how Bush's policies - including the Guantanamo prison camp, the Abu Ghraib scandal and the endless bloodshed in Iraq - were serving al-Qaeda's strategic goals for recruiting a new generation of jihadists......

.....One immediate consequence of bin-Laden breaking nearly a year of silence to issue the videotape the weekend before the U.S. presidential election was to give the Bush campaign a much needed boost. From a virtual dead heat, Bush opened up a six-point lead, according to one poll........

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/070306.html
 
The CIA's Jihad
Friday 28th Jun 2002

In April, 1985, more than five years after the Soviet tanks first rolled into Afghanistan, President Ronald Reagan signed National Security Decision Directive 166, a secret order that called for the CIA to expel the Russians ‘by all means available.’ Over the next decade, the U.S. spent $10 billion to arm and train the mujaheddin. It was America’s largest covert operation since the Vietnam era.
http://www.currentviewpoint.com/cgibin/news.cgi?id=11&command=shownews&newsid=294


• 02.10.20. Indonesian Bashir believes USA has invented al-Qaida:
<http://www.gsmpro.com/article/articledt.asp?hArticleId=39>
10/20/2002
«Bashir on Friday accused the United States of inventing both al-Qaida and Jemaah Islamiyah to portray Muslims as terrorists.»

<http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=3054299>
«Bashir selv skylder på CIA og USA for å stå bak angrepet mot Bali. Han benekter også at gruppene Jemaah Islamiyah og al-Qaida eksisterer. »
• Al-qaida did not exist in Afghanistan
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2897137.stm>
Friday, 28 March, 2003
«According to Dadullah, al-Qaeda did not exist in Afghanistan and he said he did not know the fate or whereabouts of Osama bin-Laden. »

• MOSSAD was caught pretending to be "Al-Qaeda" in Palestine.
<http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html>
Anytime you hear the corporate news media mention "Al-Qaeda" it is just like in Orwell's "1984" when the telescreens would have their "Two Minutes Hate" and the sheeple would be programmed to be afraid of "Emmanuel Goldstein." A manufactured fake enemy, designed by the warmongering fanatics, to raise public fear and support for more wars to the necessary pitch.
 
Afghan Taliban Camps Were Built by NATO

The New York Times August 24, 1998
By TIM WEINER - WASHINGTON

The Afghan resistance was backed by the intelligence services of the United States and Saudi Arabia with nearly $6 billion worth of weapons. And the territory targeted last week, a set of six encampments around Khost, where the Saudi exile Osama bin Laden has financed a kind of "terrorist university," in the words of a senior United States intelligence official, is well known to the Central Intelligence Agency.
The C.I.A.'s military and financial support for the Afghan rebels indirectly helped build the camps that the United States attacked. And some of the same warriors who fought the Soviets with the C.I.A.'s help are now fighting under Mr. bin Laden's banner.

http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/camps.htm
 
Pakistan: "The Taliban's Godfather"?

Documents Detail Years of Pakistani Support for Taliban, ExtremistsObtained under the Freedom of Information Act by the National Security Archive at George Washington University, the documents reflect U.S. apprehension about Islamabad's longstanding provision of direct aid and military support to the Taliban, including the use of Pakistani troops to train and fight alongside the Taliban inside Afghanistan.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB227/index.htm
 
Afghanistan, the CIA, bin Laden, and the Taliban

by Phil Gasper

International Socialist Review, November-December 2001

The Soviet occupation, which lasted from 1979 to 1989,
The Bush administration claims to be targeting Osama bin Laden, who it says masterminded the September 11 terror attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon (even though it has offered no concrete evidence to back up this accusation), and Afghanistan's Taliban government, which is sheltering him. But as the Economist magazine noted soon after September 11, " [U.S.] policies in Afghanistan a decade and more ago helped to create both Osama bin Laden and the fundamentalist Taliban regime that shelters him."

Three weeks after Soviet tanks rolled into Kabul, Carter's secretary of defense, Harold Brown, was in Beijing arranging for a weapons transfer from the Chinese to the ClA-backed Afghani troops mustered in Pakistan. The Chinese, who were generously compensated for the deal, agreed and even consented to send military advisers.
The CIA became the grand coordinator: purchasing or arranging the manufacture of Soviet-style weapons from Egypt, China, Poland, Israel and elsewhere, or supplying their own; arranging for military training by Americans, Egyptians, Chinese and Iranians;
Beginning in 1985, the CIA supplied mujahideen rebels with extensive satellite reconnaissance data of Soviet targets on the Afghan battlefield, plans for military operations based on the satellite intelligence, intercepts of Soviet communications, secret communications networks for the rebels, delayed timing devices for tons of C-4 plastic explosives for urban sabotage, and sophisticated guerrilla attacks, long-range sniper rifles, a targeting device for mortars that was linked to a U.S. Navy satellite, wire-guided anti-tank missiles, and other equipment.

Between 1986 and 1989, the mujahideen were also provided with more than 1,000 state-of-the-art, shoulder-fired Stinger antiaircraft missiles.

By 1987, the annual supply of arms had reached 65,000 tons, and a "ceaseless stream" of CIA and Pentagon officials were
Between 1982 and 1992, some 35,000 Muslim radicals from 43 Islamic countries in the Middle East, North and East Africa, Central Asia and the Far East would pass their baptism under fire with the Afghan mujahideen

One of the first non-Afghan volunteers to join the ranks of the mujahideen was Osama bin Laden, a civil engineer and businessman from a wealthy construction family in Saudi Arabia, with close ties to members of the Saudi royal family. Bin Laden recruited 4,000 volunteers from his own country and developed close relations with the most radical mujahideen leaders. He also worked closely with the CIA, raising money from private Saudi citizens. By 1984, he was running the Maktab al-Khidamar, an organization set up by the ISI to funnel "money, arms, and fighters from the outside world in the Afghan war."

Since September 11, CIA officials have been claiming they had no direct link to bin Laden. These denials lack credibility. Earlier this year, the trial of defendants accused of the 1998 U.S. embassy bombing in Kenya disclosed that the CIA shipped high-powered sniper rifles directly to bin Laden's operation in 1989. Even the Tennessee-based manufacturer of the rifles confirmed this. According to the Boston Globe,


http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Afghanistan/Afghanistan_CIA_Taliban.html

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d1b9e546-ceb4-11dc-877a-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1
 
"CIA worked with Pakistan to create Taliban"

LONDON: The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) worked in tandem with Pakistan to create the "monster" that is today Afghanistan's ruling Taliban, a leading US expert on South Asia said here.

Harrison said: "The CIA made a historic mistake in encouraging Islamic groups from all over the world to come to Afghanistan." The US provided $3 billion for building up these Islamic groups, and it accepted Pakistan's demand that they should decide how this money should be spent, Harrison said.
Harrison, who spoke before the Taliban assault on the Buddha statues was launched, told the gathering of security experts that he had meetings with CIA leaders at the time when Islamic forces were being strengthened in Afghanistan. "They told me these people were fanatical, and the more fierce they were the more fiercely they would fight the Soviets," he said. "I warned them that we were creating a monster."

http://www.emperors-clothes.com/docs/pak.htm
 
Quote, "Who is behind the terrorism?

The caretaker interior minister, Lieutenant General (Retd) Hamid Nawaz Khan, has done the predictable thing that he learned in PMA by saying on Saturday that India, Afghanistan and the United States had a hand in the terrorism in Pakistan. He admitted he had no proof of this involvement but that “people” had this perception. His “rational” explanation did not go further than the “circumstantial evidence” that the Taliban-Al Qaeda offensive in Afghanistan had gone down in the same measure as incidents of terrorism had gone up in Pakistan. He said suicide-bombings and other acts of organised violence needed big funding and this could come only from states unfriendly towards Pakistan.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\03\03\story_3-3-2008_pg3_1
 
Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam, al Qaida

By Warren P. Strobel, McClatchy Newspapers
Mon Mar 10, 7:08 PM ET

WASHINGTON - An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

The Pentagon-sponsored study, scheduled for release later this week, did confirm that Saddam's regime provided some support to other terrorist groups, particularly in the Middle East , U.S. officials told McClatchy . However, his security services were directed primarily against Iraqi exiles, Shiite Muslims, Kurds and others he considered enemies of his regime.
The new study of the Iraqi regime's archives found no documents indicating a "direct operational link" between Hussein's Iraq and al Qaida before the invasion, according to a U.S. official familiar with the report.

He and others spoke to McClatchy on condition of anonymity because the study isn't due to be shared with Congress and released before Wednesday.
President Bush and his aides used Saddam's alleged relationship with al Qaida, along with Iraq's supposed weapons of mass destruction, as arguments for invading Iraq after the September 11, 2001 , terrorist attacks.
Then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld claimed in September 2002 that the United States had "bulletproof" evidence of cooperation between the radical Islamist terror group and Saddam's secular dictatorship.

Then-Secretary of State Colin Powell cited multiple linkages between Saddam and al Qaida in a watershed February 2003 speech to the United Nations Security Council to build international support for the invasion. Almost every one of the examples Powell cited turned out to be based on bogus or misinterpreted intelligence.

As recently as last July, Bush tried to tie al Qaida to the ongoing violence in Iraq . "The same people that attacked us on September the 11th is a crowd that is now bombing people, killing innocent men, women and children, many of whom are Muslims," he said.
The new study, entitled "Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents", was essentially completed last year and has been undergoing what one U.S. intelligence official described as a "painful" declassification review...........

A September 2006 report by the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Saddam was "distrustful of al Qaida and viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime, refusing all requests from al Qaida to provide material or operational support."

The Senate report, citing an FBI debriefing of a senior Iraqi spy, Faruq Hijazi , said that Saddam turned down a request for assistance by bin Laden which he made at a 1995 meeting in Sudan with an Iraqi operative.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080310/wl_mcclatchy/2875005
 
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CIA Protects Al-Qaeda Group From Extradition
Posted May 24, 2008

The CIA is protecting an Al-Qaeda linked terror group formerly headed by the alleged mastermind of 9/11 from being extradited to Iran according to an ABC News report, which also reveals that U.S. intelligence has been meeting and advising the group that has been blamed for bombings in Iran.

WHAT THE FLIP?!?!?!?!?
reading this headline, you don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Excuse me, but are all US citizens - and government agencies - not supposed to be the sworn mortal enemy of the alleged "Al-Qaeda" organization?
So, let me hazard a guess here.
This tribal group is no more "Al Qaeda" than I'm the Pope.
But this Sunni militant group, and CIA support for it, very much demonstrates the old Middle Eastern saying: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Article continues--
<http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/052308_cia_protects.htm>
 
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