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Gitmo, gitclosed

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Bunz, Jan 22, 2009.

  1. Bunz

    Bunz New Member

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    Well it appears at lease one campaign promise is turning into reality.

    http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Terrorism/story?id=6693079&page=1
     
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    Andy Well-Known Member

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    It's sort of an empty promise though. Another superficial feel good gesture that will result in the opposite of it's intended purpose.

    Captured military combatants will simply be held and interrogated in non-US facilities, resulting it like more torture, such as has been documented as happening with German interrogators, and likely we'll get less valuable information then if we interrogated them ourselves.

    This is what happened before Gitmo. They will simply revert back to this, and "The beatings will continue".

    But on a surfacy feel good level, yes Obama did keep his promise.
     
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    Dawkinsrocks Well-Known Member

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    You do not get worthwhile information from torture.

    People will say anything under torture just to get it to stop.

    Gtmo is a massive stain on the US and getting rid of it is long overdue.

    Maybe what will happen is that the detainees will be either tried or released.

    Now there's a concept.
     
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    It's a done deal..

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090122/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_suspected_terrorists_25
     
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    Will someone explain where these people are going to go now?
     
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    Their own countries don't want them because they are terrorist.
    No worries, though.....because Senator Myrtha wants them. Of course he does not have a maximum security prison in his district, but that's o.k. Now he can get one.
    (Can anyone say oink oink)

    It seems like to me that the dems care more about supporting the constitution when it comes terrorists.. those planning to kill Americans.., then supporting the constitution for Americans.

    I know... Lets let the lib lawyers defend them and let them off, all paid for by tax payers.

    They can then form cells and plan to blow us to kingdom come!!!
    Wouldn't that be swell ?
     
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    Obama should have taken a bit more time before signing that bill. He should have figured out where they will go and give a better description of how he expects them to be treated. I am not taking issue with closing the place but you cant just say we are closing on this date without a plan. If he ends up putting them in a prison then he needs to start getting that prison ready for the special needs of these prisoners exc.

    I think this act proves what has been said about him all along.
     
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    Well many in the Bush admin have been pushing to close it down, however, it never was for that sole reason. Obama seems to have not answered the question and closed it anyway.
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    thats what smart people know,, but to many think watching 24 = real life.
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    Jails after trials would be a nice idea....real trials , not fake ones.
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    umm actuly thats what the bill is, a bill that sets in motion finding out what do do with them that actuly holds up to our laws, constitution, and values. It does not just say close them, and let let them out in the streets like some of you act like it does.
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    Just for saying that, we should jail you with no trail...you know since you support that. Hell we dont even need to charge you.

    Lawyers are for all people not just the innocent. Sad how many slow people dont get that simple concept. What is a system of law if you just say, well only innocent people get fair trials....
     
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    actually its not a bill its an executive order. so if obama wanted to he could let them walk the streets. lincoln suspended the right to habeus corpus which is an important part of the bill of rights through an exec order. there is nothing wrong with wanting to know the ramifications of shutting down the complex because its not as set in stone as you make it out to be.
     
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    Of course they wont be allowed to "walk the streets" what is going to happen, is that over the next year, all of the approx. 250 detainees there will have thier case reviewed and then decided on through a case by case process.
    If they can be tried in American courts, they could be released to the judicial system in the country where they came from, or another appropriate third country.
     
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    Have you seen some of the Obama supporters here on this forum? I guess not many "smart" people are voting for Obama.
     
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