Leftwing themes for a new year

[Rick]

Get over your greed - the government knows MUCH better how to spend your money than you do.

 

[steveox]

Yeah on BS Balony Earmarks.

 

[Rick]

Old people: it's your duty to die to keep obozocare solvent. Do we really NEED to bring out the Death Panels?

 

[pocketfullofshells]

people who scream death panels...should be sent to one...its retarded.

 

[Rick]

people who scream death panels...should be sent to one...its retarded.

Get a clue, fool. Death Panels are an inevitable part of any universal state controlled health system. In the UK, it's the bizarrely named National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence, which, with it's power to deny life-saving drugs, holds the power of life and death.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ipped-powers-act-nations-lifestyle-nanny.html

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Get a clue, fool. Death Panels are an inevitable part of any universal state controlled health system. In the UK, it's the bizarrely named National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence, which, with it's power to deny life-saving drugs, holds the power of life and death.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ipped-powers-act-nations-lifestyle-nanny.html

here they are called insurance companies

 

[Rick]

here they are called insurance companies

Bullsh__ . No insurance does or can make it impossible for you to get a medicine in the US. Try again, bald-faced liar.

 

[Rick]

The way to world peace is to apologize to everyone, and bow and scrape before as many dictators as possible.

 

[dogtowner]

Bullsh__ . No insurance does or can make it impossible for you to get a medicine in the US. Try again, bald-faced liar.

Yes, they do it all the time. Its called the formulary, a list of the meds they will cover. It can be appealed but seldom works. The difference is that if you don't like the formulary for InsCo1 you can buy insurance from InsCo2 wh does cover it. The other difference is that with govt insurance its a combination of experimental and cost where with private insurance its experimental. If the government decides a med costs to much, tough luck.

 

[Rick]

Yes, they do it all the time. Its called the formulary, a list of the meds they will cover. It can be appealed but seldom works. The difference is that if you don't like the formulary for InsCo1 you can buy insurance from InsCo2 wh does cover it. The other difference is that with govt insurance its a combination of experimental and cost where with private insurance its experimental. If the government decides a med costs to much, tough luck.

The comparison of state rationing boards in socialized systems with the policies of insurance companies in the US is about as specious as it gets, and is intended to mislead the uninformed in this country as to the consequences of implementing one of those systems here.

An insurance policy is simply a business deal - you can look at the formulary going in, and if you don't like the deal, don't take it. Also you can't expect insurance companies to operate at a loss - they aren't charities. But insurance companies' policies are LIGHT YEARS from the nature of socialized systems.

If I need a med and it isn't covered, I can try to find a way to come up with the money. In Canada, trying to get health care outside the state rationing system is >>ILLEGAL<<. The authorities there of course know that when it's life or death, canadians will head south of the border, rather than die on a long canadian waiting list. In other words, their system is designed to survive by parasitism off the US system. Another example: in the UK's NHS, the number of serious medical procedures of a given type that can be offered by a particular service provider, say a hospital, has a strict low limit each year. That means the hospital next door to you could be completely able to save your life, but it's illegal for them to do anything and you will die (unless you become a medical tourist like tens of thousands of Britons every year, who go to places like India to try to save their lives.) There isn't ANYTHING like that in the US.

 

[Rick]

Don't overrate experience - obozo has never been in charge of anything in his life, and looking how well he's doing. Also, he appointed a supreme court justice who's never been a judge, and had a lot of economic advisers who've never run a business. Amateurism allows you to bring fresh new insights to a problem.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

The comparison of state rationing boards in socialized systems with the policies of insurance companies in the US is about as specious as it gets, and is intended to mislead the uninformed in this country as to the consequences of implementing one of those systems here.

An insurance policy is simply a business deal - you can look at the formulary going in, and if you don't like the deal, don't take it. Also you can't expect insurance companies to operate at a loss - they aren't charities. But insurance companies' policies are LIGHT YEARS from the nature of socialized systems.

If I need a med and it isn't covered, I can try to find a way to come up with the money. In Canada, trying to get health care outside the state rationing system is >>ILLEGAL<<. The authorities there of course know that when it's life or death, canadians will head south of the border, rather than die on a long canadian waiting list. In other words, their system is designed to survive by parasitism off the US system. Another example: in the UK's NHS, the number of serious medical procedures of a given type that can be offered by a particular service provider, say a hospital, has a strict low limit each year. That means the hospital next door to you could be completely able to save your life, but it's illegal for them to do anything and you will die (unless you become a medical tourist like tens of thousands of Britons every year, who go to places like India to try to save their lives.) There isn't ANYTHING like that in the US.

News Flash, your not in Canada...

 

[Rick]

News Flash, your not in Canada...

Point flew past you at Mach 3. Are we surprised? Nooooooooo

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Point flew past you at Mach 3. Are we surprised? Nooooooooo

if it was that your just babbling worthless drivle with no idea what you talking about..no I got that point

 

[Rick]

if it was that your just babbling worthless drivle with no idea what you talking about..no I got that point

You're the Klueless King. You don't understand, even though an effort is made to dumb things down to your level. You add nothing to a thread but entropy.