Rep Joe Wilson (Rep. S.C.)

[Pandora]

Well, BIB you twist it, you misquote it, you spew your vitriol upon it and then when you are questioned about the WHY...why are you so vile and asinine about our President Obama you turn/twist it into a entire smoke screen about people being mean to you...ROTFLMAO

Here's one of your infamous quote when you are spewing at others talking about items in the media regarding your 'SO FAIR SARA PALIN' you made this {unbelievable statement}:

Topic > "Me and Mrs. Palin" your post #6 and there have been many, oh so many more...but your selective memory just gets all befuddled when you drag a conversation around to attempt to make others look like they have an issue with you and all I'm trying to do is get you to stop the hypocrisy and see that your logic has no bases...but your comprehension skills are just as twisted as your vile atti.

tude 'with no grounds' about our President. AND YOU AIN'T NORMAL, BIB...not by a long short...

So I'll ignore your vitriolic asinine hypocritical/racists views and just wait for another B.S. spewing when it rolls out of your head and onto the forum and point it out to you again & again & again!!!

Do you think that normal people like it when others are attacked without reason?

I still believe that this is true. There was nothing extra special about Joe the plumber but he got a great deal of support because he was attacked without cause or reason.


Sarah Palin has support from normal people who dont even agree with her politically because she was attacked without reason.

I did not go back to the thread but wasnt I basicly saying if you hate Sarah Palin so much and want her to go away then attacking her is the wrong thing to do and ignoring her is the better, because attacking her for dumb stupid reasons just makes people want to defend her more

You did again not understand what I was saying and I am not just talking about myself, so I will ask you again


Do you think attacking someone personally when they say things against a politician you like is ok?

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

Do you think attacking someone personally when they say things against a politician you like is ok?

You either are extremely obtuse or once you have twisted the conversation around into convoluted smoke filled reflexive gagging conversations you are confused and highly defensive.

Go back and reread the point in this thread where you called our current president a 'JERK OFF' and see where my relentless questions got you into a fit and a whine about me being mean to you. You have done that since the day I walked into this forum and each and every time you try to side step/back track/start your fussing and crying about being attacked you've never answered the question and stomped off.

Yet you've posted exactly the same sentiment and explanation for your 'FEELINGS' about anything and everything to do with SARA PALIN...you are a highly agitated person to carry on any topic with and I'm not alone in that thought.

 

[Pandora]

You either are extremely obtuse or once you have twisted the conversation around into convoluted smoke filled reflexive gagging conversations you are confused and highly defensive.

Go back and reread the point in this thread where you called our current president a 'JERK OFF' and see where my relentless questions got you into a fit and a whine about me being mean to you. You have done that since the day I walked into this forum and each and every time you try to side step/back track/start your fussing and crying about being attacked you've never answered the question and stomped off.

Yet you've posted exactly the same sentiment and explanation for your 'FEELINGS' about anything and everything to do with SARA PALIN...you are a highly agitated person to carry on any topic with and I'm not alone in that thought.

Are you taking the 5th?

Ok, thats fine by me

 

[always]

OOPS!

No free health care for illegal immigrants in the health bill


It may be the longest chain e-mail we've ever received. A page-by-page analysis of the House health care bill argues that reform will end the health care system as we know it: "Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed! ... Page 42: The 'Health Choices Commissioner' will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. ... Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free health care services."

Most of the e-mail's claims are wrong, and you can read our extended analysis to find out why.

One of its most bizarre claims is the one about free health care for noncitizens, "illegal or not."

We read the bill and its legislative summary, and could find nothing about free health care for anyone, much less noncitizens.

To confirm our examination, we turned to Jennifer Tolbert, an independent health care analyst at the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonpartisan foundation that studies health care reform. Tolbert has read and analyzed all the major health proposals, including those of the Republicans, and the foundation provides point-by-point analyses of the plans on its Web site.

"No one's provided with free health care. That's ridiculous," she said.

Page 50, which the e-mail references, is part of Section 152, which includes a generic nondiscrimination clause saying that insurers may not discriminate with regard to "personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services."

The section says nothing about "non-US citizens" or immigrants, legal or otherwise. In fact, the legislation specifically states that "undocumented aliens" will not be eligible for credits to help them buy health insurance, in Section 246 on page 143.

The bottom line here is the e-mail is making things up. The bill does not say anything close to "All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free health care services." We rate this chain e-mail statement Pants on Fire!

When ONE LIAR defends another LIAR , how can an HONEST person accept his defense ? You know better ! but libs never obey their knowledge , it is their agenda that speaks! THINK!

 

[always]

....And, they'll be escorted OUT....like any reasonable-parent would do with an unruly CHILD.​

Escorted out by "Brown Shirts" I'm sure . HONORABLE JOE WILSON not only gave AMERICA some hope for a future , he gave us a rallying cry for the Elections of 2010 and 2012 -- " YOu LIE" !! now these two words not only cover obama but his entire miserable crowd of radical politicians be they Marxist, Sociallist , Statist , Communist , or just plain America haters . VOTE for PRINCIPLE and not PARTY ! THINK! "YOU LIE " says it all!

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

Originally Posted by Mr. Shaman

....And, they'll be escorted OUT....like any reasonable-parent would do with an unruly CHILD.​

Escorted out by "Brown Shirts" I'm sure . HONORABLE JOE WILSON not only gave AMERICA some hope for a future , he gave us a rallying cry for the Elections of 2010 and 2012 -- " YOu LIE" !! now these two words not only cover obama but his entire miserable crowd of radical politicians be they Marxist, Sociallist , Statist , Communist , or just plain America haters . VOTE for PRINCIPLE and not PARTY ! THINK! "YOU LIE " says it all!

Brown Shirts has nothing to do with it...JEEZ you are fixated on that NAZI regime aren't you

Correct me if I'm wrong...but isn't there an 'OFFICIAL Position' called the Sargent of ARMS...that is the person who introduces the President of the United States into chambers before each and every time that he speaks

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Do you think that normal people like it when others are attacked without reason?

You mean...like...IRAQ??!!

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[top gun]

When ONE LIAR defends another LIAR , how can an HONEST person accept his defense ? You know better ! but libs never obey their knowledge , it is their agenda that speaks! THINK!

Childish personal attack aside...

The words in writting... right in the Bill itself... are certainly enough to highlight that your intentional misinformation is simply the acting out of a partisan, very bad loser, who would rather lie than discuss facts.

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) angrily shouted “you lie!” in response to President Obama’s statement during his Wednesday address to Congress that claims of illegal immigrants being covered by the proposed health care reforms were “false.”

Politico ID’d the representative and posted the video, where you can hear the shout at around the 1:20 mark:

This claim of coverage for illegal immigrants has been repeated in viral emails and even in a press release by Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), among other places. One viral email proved its case by citing:

Pg 50 Section 152 in HC bill – HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

However the claim is easily debunked by simply reading the bill, which you can do, right here, right now. Here’s Section 152:

SEC. 152. PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE.

(a) In General- Except as otherwise explicitly permitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations consistent with this Act, all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.


Now, one could see how “personal characteristics” could be interpreted as covering one’s immigration status… unless you kept reading to Section 246:

H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

Read it yourself: Section 246 in H.R. 3200, the official bill text. >>

The Right has now just boiled itself down to peeing into the wind... but in a way that may be good.

It gives reasonable people a good look in writing at a documented lie the pubbies struggle to perpetuate... as they heckle The President of the United States of America for telling a truth they simply did not want told.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Childish personal attack aside...

The words in writting... right in the Bill itself... are certainly enough to highlight that your intentional misinformation is simply the acting out of a partisan, very bad loser, who would rather lie than discuss facts.

It's quite possible that LITERACY is their primary-issue....
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