What could we have done to successfully prevent today's impending (?) collapse of America?

[Yo Daddy!!]

What could we have done to successfully prevent today's impending (?) collapse of America?

Is your answer the clue to what we should do now, or in the future, if we would keep our country and preserve our freedoms?

 

[Phoenix68]

What could we have done to successfully prevent today's impending (?) collapse of America?

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Shown a little less patience??
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[Yo Daddy!!]

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When you are ready to consider the other side of this issue, feel free to let me know.

Although, if you were a Trump fan, you should have already looked at BOTH SIDES, and with the good sense God gave you, easily surmised that if you want your kids and grandkids to live in freedom, you will vote Trump.

 

[Boris Norris]

When you are ready to consider the other side of this issue, feel free to let me know.

Although, if you were a Trump fan, you should have already looked at BOTH SIDES,

I haven't seen evidence of that.

and with the good sense God gave you,

God my arse. Intelligence evolved with humans and it was faulty when it reached you.

easily surmised that if you want your kids and grandkids to live in freedom, you will vote Trump.

Trump attempts a fascist coup on j6 for which he will go to jail yet your suggesting fascism will give you freedom??
Are you completely mad?
Your brain dead.

 

[Phoenix68]

......if you want your kids and grandkids to live in freedom, you will vote Trump.

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[mark francis]

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Bob Woodward has not done much to forward love of God and subsequent freedom and prosperity in America.

 

[Yo Daddy!!]

And that's saying it nicely!

 

[pjmret]

Don't let Trump run
His anti American actions are disgusting

 

[Yo Daddy!!]

Don't let Trump run
His anti American actions are disgusting

What a good masochist you are!

 

[mark francis]

Don't let Trump run
His anti American actions are disgusting

4 more years of Obiden and puppet clowns for the Democrats! What delusions leftists have of a great society without God.

 

[pjmret]

What a good masochist you are!

It's weird You can't stop thinking about masochism in a political form seek professional help

 

[pjmret]

4 more years of Obiden and puppet clowns for the Democrats! What delusions leftists have of a great society without God.

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Over the years as the influence of Christians has decreased in our legal society our freedom has increased Christians just have this innate need to impose their views on others and that's sad

 

[mark francis]

Over the years as the influence of Christians has decreased in our legal society our freedom has increased Christians just have this innate need to impose their views on others and that's sad

I like how our new House Speaker explained things.

Speaker Johnson silences CNBC anchor with history lesson for trying to weaponize prayer against him | Blaze Media (theblaze.com) 11-16-23
Speaker Johnson silences CNBC anchor with history lesson for trying to weaponize prayer against him

CHRIS ENLOE
NOVEMBER 16, 2023

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R) explained Tuesday why the doctrine of "separation of church and state" — which doesn't exist in the Constitution — is routinely misunderstood.

In an interview on CNBC's "Squawk Box," host Andrew Ross Sorkin asked Johnson about the "public perception" of his decision to pray on the House floor after being sworn in as speaker, suggesting that he had violated some great principle that bans faith from the public square.

Johnson responded with a history lesson.

"Faith — our deep religious heritage and tradition — is a big part of what it means to be an American. When the founders set this system up, they wanted a vibrant expression of faith in the public square because they believed that a general moral consensus and virtue was necessary to maintain this grand experiment in self-governance that we created: a government of, by, and for the people. We don't have a king in charge," Johnson said. "So, we've got to keep morality amongst us so that we have accountability."

Johnson then explained why "the separation of church and state is a misnomer."

"People misunderstand it," he said. "Of course, it comes from a phrase that was in a letter that [Thomas] Jefferson wrote. It's not in the Constitution. And what he was explaining is they did not want the government to encroach upon the church — not that they didn't want principles of faith to have influence on our public life. It’s exactly the opposite."

Next, Johnson quoted from George Washington's famous farewell address, as well as John Adams.

• Washington: "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports"
• Adams: "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other"

"They knew that [faith] would be important to maintain our system,"Johnson explained.

"And that's why I think we need more of that — not an establishment of any national religion — but we need everybody's vibrant expression of faith because it's such an important part of who we are as a nation," he said.

And with that final remark, the interview concluded.

Indeed, the First Amendment addresses religious liberty with two important clauses.

First, the Establishment Clause states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Second, the Free Exercise Clause stipulates that Congress cannot make a law "prohibiting the free exercise" of religion.

As Johnson explained, Jefferson believed that through these two clauses, the founding fathers build "a wall between church and state" — a wall meant to keep government out of the free exercise of religion, not faith out of government.

 

[Yo Daddy!!]

I like how our new House Speaker explained things.

Speaker Johnson silences CNBC anchor with history lesson for trying to weaponize prayer against him | Blaze Media (theblaze.com) 11-16-23
Speaker Johnson silences CNBC anchor with history lesson for trying to weaponize prayer against him

CHRIS ENLOE
NOVEMBER 16, 2023

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R) explained Tuesday why the doctrine of "separation of church and state" — which doesn't exist in the Constitution — is routinely misunderstood.

In an interview on CNBC's "Squawk Box," host Andrew Ross Sorkin asked Johnson about the "public perception" of his decision to pray on the House floor after being sworn in as speaker, suggesting that he had violated some great principle that bans faith from the public square.

Johnson responded with a history lesson.

"Faith — our deep religious heritage and tradition — is a big part of what it means to be an American. When the founders set this system up, they wanted a vibrant expression of faith in the public square because they believed that a general moral consensus and virtue was necessary to maintain this grand experiment in self-governance that we created: a government of, by, and for the people. We don't have a king in charge," Johnson said. "So, we've got to keep morality amongst us so that we have accountability."

Johnson then explained why "the separation of church and state is a misnomer."

"People misunderstand it," he said. "Of course, it comes from a phrase that was in a letter that [Thomas] Jefferson wrote. It's not in the Constitution. And what he was explaining is they did not want the government to encroach upon the church — not that they didn't want principles of faith to have influence on our public life. It’s exactly the opposite."

Next, Johnson quoted from George Washington's famous farewell address, as well as John Adams.

• Washington: "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports"
• Adams: "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other"

"They knew that [faith] would be important to maintain our system,"Johnson explained.

"And that's why I think we need more of that — not an establishment of any national religion — but we need everybody's vibrant expression of faith because it's such an important part of who we are as a nation," he said.

And with that final remark, the interview concluded.

Indeed, the First Amendment addresses religious liberty with two important clauses.

First, the Establishment Clause states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Second, the Free Exercise Clause stipulates that Congress cannot make a law "prohibiting the free exercise" of religion.

As Johnson explained, Jefferson believed that through these two clauses, the founding fathers build "a wall between church and state" — a wall meant to keep government out of the free exercise of religion, not faith out of government.

This gets my vote as Post of the Year nominee!

Everyone needs to be aware of these distinctions.

 

[pjmret]

I like how our new House Speaker explained things.

Speaker Johnson silences CNBC anchor with history lesson for trying to weaponize prayer against him | Blaze Media (theblaze.com) 11-16-23
Speaker Johnson silences CNBC anchor with history lesson for trying to weaponize prayer against him

CHRIS ENLOE
NOVEMBER 16, 2023

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R) explained Tuesday why the doctrine of "separation of church and state" — which doesn't exist in the Constitution — is routinely misunderstood.

In an interview on CNBC's "Squawk Box," host Andrew Ross Sorkin asked Johnson about the "public perception" of his decision to pray on the House floor after being sworn in as speaker, suggesting that he had violated some great principle that bans faith from the public square.

Johnson responded with a history lesson.

"Faith — our deep religious heritage and tradition — is a big part of what it means to be an American. When the founders set this system up, they wanted a vibrant expression of faith in the public square because they believed that a general moral consensus and virtue was necessary to maintain this grand experiment in self-governance that we created: a government of, by, and for the people. We don't have a king in charge," Johnson said. "So, we've got to keep morality amongst us so that we have accountability."

Johnson then explained why "the separation of church and state is a misnomer."

"People misunderstand it," he said. "Of course, it comes from a phrase that was in a letter that [Thomas] Jefferson wrote. It's not in the Constitution. And what he was explaining is they did not want the government to encroach upon the church — not that they didn't want principles of faith to have influence on our public life. It’s exactly the opposite."

Next, Johnson quoted from George Washington's famous farewell address, as well as John Adams.

• Washington: "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports"
• Adams: "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other"

"They knew that [faith] would be important to maintain our system,"Johnson explained.

"And that's why I think we need more of that — not an establishment of any national religion — but we need everybody's vibrant expression of faith because it's such an important part of who we are as a nation," he said.

And with that final remark, the interview concluded.

Indeed, the First Amendment addresses religious liberty with two important clauses.

First, the Establishment Clause states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Second, the Free Exercise Clause stipulates that Congress cannot make a law "prohibiting the free exercise" of religion.

As Johnson explained, Jefferson believed that through these two clauses, the founding fathers build "a wall between church and state" — a wall meant to keep government out of the free exercise of religion, not faith out of government.

I am surevyou do
Based on the Bible we had slavery, women not vot8ng, persecution of gays, etc
Me I think those are bad things but your opinion may differ