What could we have done to successfully prevent today's impending (?) collapse of America?

[pjmret]

This gets my vote as Post of the Year nominee!

Everyone needs to be aware of these distinctions.

Fervent Christian wants more Christianity in government
Shock8ng lol

 

[Boris Norris]

I like how our new House Speaker explained things.

Speaker Johnson silences CNBC anchor with history lesson for trying to weaponize prayer against him | Blaze Media (theblaze.com) 11-16-23
Speaker Johnson silences CNBC anchor with history lesson for trying to weaponize prayer against him

CHRIS ENLOE
NOVEMBER 16, 2023

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R) explained Tuesday why the doctrine of "separation of church and state" — which doesn't exist in the Constitution — is routinely misunderstood.

In an interview on CNBC's "Squawk Box," host Andrew Ross Sorkin asked Johnson about the "public perception" of his decision to pray on the House floor after being sworn in as speaker, suggesting that he had violated some great principle that bans faith from the public square.

Johnson responded with a history lesson.

"Faith — our deep religious heritage and tradition — is a big part of what it means to be an American. When the founders set this system up, they wanted a vibrant expression of faith in the public square because they believed that a general moral consensus and virtue was necessary to maintain this grand experiment in self-governance that we created: a government of, by, and for the people. We don't have a king in charge," Johnson said. "So, we've got to keep morality amongst us so that we have accountability."

Johnson then explained why "the separation of church and state is a misnomer."

"People misunderstand it," he said. "Of course, it comes from a phrase that was in a letter that [Thomas] Jefferson wrote. It's not in the Constitution. And what he was explaining is they did not want the government to encroach upon the church — not that they didn't want principles of faith to have influence on our public life. It’s exactly the opposite."

Next, Johnson quoted from George Washington's famous farewell address, as well as John Adams.

• Washington: "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports"
• Adams: "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other"

"They knew that [faith] would be important to maintain our system,"Johnson explained.

"And that's why I think we need more of that — not an establishment of any national religion — but we need everybody's vibrant expression of faith because it's such an important part of who we are as a nation," he said.

And with that final remark, the interview concluded.

Indeed, the First Amendment addresses religious liberty with two important clauses.

First, the Establishment Clause states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Second, the Free Exercise Clause stipulates that Congress cannot make a law "prohibiting the free exercise" of religion.

As Johnson explained, Jefferson believed that through these two clauses, the founding fathers build "a wall between church and state" — a wall meant to keep government out of the free exercise of religion, not faith out of government.

Is this the same gid fearing Johnson who was recently found not declaring certain money dealings with his wife? Yet he stands with righteous indignation and bellies about gid and country? He aligns himself with Trump who orchestrated the j6 riot but then talks about evil fascist democrats?
Sorry. Must be a different one.

 

[Boris Norris]

What could we have done to successfully prevent today's impending (?) collapse of America?

Is your answer the clue to what we should do now, or in the future, if we would keep our country and preserve our freedoms?

Where's the evidence of a pending collapse or is that just Maga propaganda again?

 

[mark francis]

I am surevyou do
Based on the Bible we had slavery, women not vot8ng, persecution of gays, etc
Me I think those are bad things but your opinion may differ

American slavery was a product of political forces that aligned with and became Democrats.

 

[pjmret]

American slavery was a product of political forces that aligned with and became Democrats.

It was supported by Christians quoting the Bible duh
You are a history moron lol

Out of the more than three quarters of a million words in the Bible, Christian slaveholders—and, if asked, most slaveholders would have defined themselves as Christian—had two favorites texts, one from the beginning of the Old Testament and the other from the end of the New Testament. In the words of the King James Bible, which was the version then current, these were, first, Genesis IX, 18–27: The other favorite came from the Apostle Paul’s Epistle to the Ephesians, VI, 5-7:

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

You are a religion moron lol

 

[Yo Daddy!!]

Where's the evidence of a pending collapse or is that just Maga propaganda again?

You don't belong here if you are so uninformed.
I should lobby the honest posters here to boycott your posts.

 

[pjmret]

You don't belong here if you are so uninformed.
I should lobby the honest posters here to boycott your posts.

you sound like a typical right wing snowflake, threatened by what other people say.
more right wing cancel culture on display. lol

 

[mark francis]

It was supported by Christians quoting the Bible duh
You are a history moron lol

Out of the more than three quarters of a million words in the Bible, Christian slaveholders—and, if asked, most slaveholders would have defined themselves as Christian—had two favorites texts, one from the beginning of the Old Testament and the other from the end of the New Testament. In the words of the King James Bible, which was the version then current, these were, first, Genesis IX, 18–27: The other favorite came from the Apostle Paul’s Epistle to the Ephesians, VI, 5-7:

How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery

Read an excerpt from 'The Great Stain: Witnessing American Slavery' by Noel Rae

time.com

You are a religion moron lol

I keep warning you. Do not listen to Christians who support abortion, homosexuality, the Democrat party, or slavery.

 

[pjmret]

I keep warning you. Do not listen to Christians who support abortion, homosexuality, the Democrat party, or slavery.

I keep laughing at you
You can't admit how Christians have oppressed Americans

 

[Phoenix68]

Bob Woodward has not done much to forward love of God and subsequent freedom and prosperity in America.

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Yeah, but...he's always been more mature than 90% of his critics.
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[Yo Daddy!!]

I keep laughing at you
You can't admit how Christians have oppressed Americans

Without morality, which is precisely what religion emphasizes, there is no reason for a government's being.

 

[Phoenix68]

Don't let Trump run
His anti American actions are disgusting

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What a good masochist you are!

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I'm guessing you were no English Major.
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MAGAT = Masochist
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[pjmret]

Without morality, which is precisely what religion emphasizes, there is no reason for a government's being.

The problem of course being that a religions morality might not be moral when measured against other standards
Like christian persecution of gays, fortunately government intervened

 

[Boris Norris]

You don't belong here if you are so uninformed.
I should lobby the honest posters here to boycott your posts.

That didn't answer my question because I know you have nothing but hate for the dems.

I'll stay here as long as I like and you can do nothing about it. Lobby your friends. Do it in a phone box. That will hold them all.

 

[Boris Norris]

American slavery was a product of political forces that aligned with and became Democrats.

Of course they were and not a single republican was involved.