Will Louisiana and Others Secede From The USA?

[Gipper]

And I find your blind hatred and disgust for this man a clear indication of racism and lack of honesty.

Obama is not perfect, but he certainly has many of the qualities you deny him.

He most certainly is a stateman, and a leader. And while is is not a military man, he obviously knows enough to lead the military in ways that do not expend the life of our soldiers for nothing like some other "non military"Presidents!

But the point and your bigotry are moot, as obviously, Obama IS the President, and will be for the full 8 years allowable by the Constutution.

Enjoy.

I hate NO ONE. I am Christian so you can count on me not hating ANYONE....unlike you.

I do hate liberalism and all its sister leftist ideologies.

BO is not a statesman or leader. Tell me what qualifies him as a statesman or leader BEFORE he won in '08?

Your posts are generic left wing propaganda....anyone who criticizes your Messiah is a racist. Ugh....so childish and ignorant. It is purely an effort to diminish and censor anyone who dislikes Obama's policies.

The intolerance of the left is boundless.

 

[Openmind]

if you read the document you see that only indurrection is disalliwed. just leaving ? no problem.

Yep. . .leaving seems like a good idea.

Actually, the lue States are beginning to like the idea:

"
Dear Red States: We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and
politics and we've decided we're leaving: "Legitimate rape." is almost
reason enough! We in New York and California intend to form our own
country and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you
aren't aware that also includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington,
Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the rest of the
Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and
especially to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States
of America (E.S.A).

To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get Andrew Cuomo
and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd Akin. We get the
Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand. We get Intel and Microsoft. You
get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of
America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get
two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay
their fair share. Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent
lower than the Christian Coalition's we get a bunch of happy
families. You get a bunch of single moms. Please be aware that the
E.S.A. will be pro choice and anti war and we're going to want all our
citizens back from Afghanistan at once. If you need people to fight,
ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to
send to their deaths for no purpose and they don't care if you don't
show pictures of their children's caskets coming home. We wish you
success in Afghanistan, and possibly Iran as well, but we're not
willing to spend our resources in these sorts of pursuits.

With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the
country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92%
of the nation's fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines (you can
serve French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of
the high tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all living
redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools
including Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese
Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US
mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99%
of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush
Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of
Georgia. We get New York, Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed
by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the
death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory,
53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards
believe you are people with higher morals than we lefties. We're
taking the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico.

Sincerely, Citizens of the Enlightened States of America"

Written by Anonymous.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Exactly. . .what else?

"Double Blind proof."

 

[Johnny Tremain]

I hate NO ONE. I am Christian so you can count on me not hating ANYONE....unlike you.

I do hate liberalism and all its sister leftist ideologies.

BO is not a statesman or leader. Tell me what qualifies him as a statesman or leader BEFORE he won in '08?

Your posts are generic left wing propaganda....anyone who criticizes your Messiah is a racist. Ugh....so childish and ignorant. It is purely an effort to diminish and censor anyone who dislikes Obama's policies.

The intolerance of the left is boundless.

+1000

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Yep. . .leaving seems like a good idea.

Actually, the lue States are beginning to like the idea:

"
Dear Red States: We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and
politics and we've decided we're leaving: "Legitimate rape." is almost
reason enough! We in New York and California intend to form our own
country and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you
aren't aware that also includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington,
Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the rest of the
Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and
especially to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States
of America (E.S.A).

To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get Andrew Cuomo
and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd Akin. We get the
Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand. We get Intel and Microsoft. You
get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of
America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get
two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay
their fair share. Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent
lower than the Christian Coalition's we get a bunch of happy
families. You get a bunch of single moms. Please be aware that the
E.S.A. will be pro choice and anti war and we're going to want all our
citizens back from Afghanistan at once. If you need people to fight,
ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to
send to their deaths for no purpose and they don't care if you don't
show pictures of their children's caskets coming home. We wish you
success in Afghanistan, and possibly Iran as well, but we're not
willing to spend our resources in these sorts of pursuits.

With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the
country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92%
of the nation's fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines (you can
serve French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of
the high tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all living
redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools
including Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese
Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US
mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99%
of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush
Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of
Georgia. We get New York, Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed
by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the
death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory,
53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards
believe you are people with higher morals than we lefties. We're
taking the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico.

Sincerely, Citizens of the Enlightened States of America"

Written by Anonymous.

"Enlightened--by Self-Proclamation"

 

[Openmind]

I hate NO ONE. I am Christian so you can count on me not hating ANYONE....unlike you.

I do hate liberalism and all its sister leftist ideologies.

BO is not a statesman or leader. Tell me what qualifies him as a statesman or leader BEFORE he won in '08?

Your posts are generic left wing propaganda....anyone who criticizes your Messiah is a racist. Ugh....so childish and ignorant. It is purely an effort to diminish and censor anyone who dislikes Obama's policies.

The intolerance of the left is boundless.

See, dear. . . You are once again projecting your own feelings on others.

You ar seeing my comments as Left wing propaganda,". While yours ar nothing more tha. "Right wing propaganda."

If my comments do not make ME rit, it is obvious that YOUR comments do not make you right.

And, I believe we have recently had a pretty good sign of whom got the political climate and the reality of our opinions validated.

 

[Openmind]

"Enlightened--by Self-Proclamation"

I do hope you haven't lost your sense of humor!

Obviously this anonymous wrting was a "tongur in cheek" expose, a satyre of the absurdity of the extreme right delusion of secession.

Or did the FACTUAL economic informations contained in this writing fooled you into believing this was a serious statement?

See, dear, the Left is not so far into arrogance and self promotion as the Right, and we can recognize and play with absurdity without taking anyone, including ourselves, seriously!

fooled you again, huh! LOL!

 

[Gipper]

Those who oppose secession have a clear standing on the side of the Constitution.



I do look at this movement as individual Americans who are disgruntled with their government. That said, their end goal is a blatant violation of the law and a slap in the face to the Constitution.



Obviously we agree to disagree here.

The Great Walter Williams also disagrees with you....further proof that Neocons and Liberals are wrong again.

For decades, it has been obvious that there are irreconcilable differences between Americans who want to control the lives of others and those who wish to be left alone. Which is the more peaceful solution: Americans using the brute force of government to beat liberty-minded people into submission or simply parting company? In a marriage, where vows are ignored and broken, divorce is the most peaceful solution. Similarly, our constitutional and human rights have been increasingly violated by a government instituted to protect them. Americans who support constitutional abrogation have no intention of mending their ways.
Since Barack Obama's re-election, hundreds of thousands of petitions for secession have reached the White House. Some people have argued that secession is unconstitutional, but there's absolutely nothing in the Constitution that prohibits it. What stops secession is the prospect of brute force by a mighty federal government, as witnessed by the costly War of 1861. Let's look at the secession issue.

At the 1787 constitutional convention, a proposal was made to allow the federal government to suppress a seceding state. James Madison, the acknowledged father of our Constitution, rejected it, saying: "A Union of the States containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a State would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound."
On March 2, 1861, after seven states had seceded and two days before Abraham Lincoln's inauguration, Sen. James R. Doolittle of Wisconsin proposed a constitutional amendment that said, "No State or any part thereof, heretofore admitted or hereafter admitted into the Union, shall have the power to withdraw from the jurisdiction of the United States."
Several months earlier, Reps. Daniel E. Sickles of New York, Thomas B. Florence of Pennsylvania and Otis S. Ferry of Connecticut proposed a constitutional amendment to prohibit secession. Here's my no-brainer question: Would there have been any point to offering these amendments if secession were already unconstitutional?
On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel of Maryland said, "Any attempt to preserve the Union between the States of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty."
The Northern Democratic and Republican parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace. Just about every major Northern newspaper editorialized in favor of the South's right to secede. New York Tribune (Feb. 5, 1860): "If tyranny and despotism justified the Revolution of 1776, then we do not see why it would not justify the secession of Five Millions of Southrons from the Federal Union in 1861." Detroit Free Press (Feb. 19, 1861): "An attempt to subjugate the seceded States, even if successful, could produce nothing but evil – evil unmitigated in character and appalling in content." The New York Times (March 21, 1861): "There is growing sentiment throughout the North in favor of letting the Gulf States go."

There's more evidence seen at the time our Constitution was ratified. The ratification documents of Virginia, New York and Rhode Island explicitly said that they held the right to resume powers delegated, should the federal government become abusive of those powers. The Constitution would have never been ratified if states thought that they could not maintain their sovereignty.
http://lewrockwell.com/williams-w/w-williams147.html

 

[steveox]

Our new conservitive country. Its called TEXAS

Red called TEXAS the Rest still called the U.S.A! TEXAS has no states no local government. Its all one big country itself. Only cities is run by local government. If you live outside the city You live under only Texas Law!