I could possibly have been wrong.

[Diamond]

Far Right GOP BS. (In actuality....the poor are the ones who fight in & pay for your wars.... that you rich people start but are afraid to go yourselves)

Do you have any figures to show that this claim is true?

 

[rationalist]

My god

I you don't know that you are probably mad enough to blieve that Israel and Iran are at war.

 

[Phoenix68]

I could possibly have been wrong.​

It does happen occasionally. I already admitted to having voted for Lyndon Johnson on the assumption that he would be less likely than Goldwater to get us into a war. Now, 46 years later, I may possibly have erred once again.
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It happens occasionally, every 40-50 years anyway.
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I'm talking about health care reform. Looking at the rest of the world paying less and getting more led me to believe that our own government could institute a health care plan that might improve our own.

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It already exists. It's called Medicare!!!!
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"Medicare By Choice" Proposal Aims To Unite Democrats On Health Care
March 26, 2026
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"A coalition of former congressional staffers and federal health leaders is putting forward a health care policy proposal around which it hopes Democrats will coalesce ahead of the 2028 campaign, a position it is calling "Medicare By Choice"!!
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So a group of policy experts encompassing the Center for Health and Democracy (CHD) and a former head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) is putting forth its policy proposal for Democrats, Medicare By Choice.
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This proposal allows everyone the option of enrolling in traditional Medicare regardless of age, even allowing employers to select Medicare By Choice as their employees’ workplace benefit.
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The bill introduced last year provides health coverage with no premiums, no co-payments and no deductibles. Polling commissioned by the Medicare for All PAC found that a slight majority of voters say they favor such a proposal — at 54 percent nationally, as well as 56 percent in battleground states.
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But as was seen in 2024, Medicare for All leaves candidates who support it vulnerable to attacks by the GOP of being too radical because it calls to eliminate private insurance plans.
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A report released by the Senate Joint Economic Committee this month found that overpayments to Medicare Advantage plans potentially cost seniors exceedingly more, than if they had been enrolled in traditional Medicare to the tune of about $84 Billion."

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[mark francis]

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It already exists. It's called Medicare!!!!
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"Medicare By Choice" Proposal Aims To Unite Democrats On Health Care
March 26, 2026
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"A coalition of former congressional staffers and federal health leaders is putting forward a health care policy proposal around which it hopes Democrats will coalesce ahead of the 2028 campaign, a position it is calling "Medicare By Choice"!!
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So a group of policy experts encompassing the Center for Health and Democracy (CHD) and a former head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) is putting forth its policy proposal for Democrats, Medicare By Choice.
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This proposal allows everyone the option of enrolling in traditional Medicare regardless of age, even allowing employers to select Medicare By Choice as their employees’ workplace benefit.
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The bill introduced last year provides health coverage with no premiums, no co-payments and no deductibles. Polling commissioned by the Medicare for All PAC found that a slight majority of voters say they favor such a proposal — at 54 percent nationally, as well as 56 percent in battleground states.
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But as was seen in 2024, Medicare for All leaves candidates who support it vulnerable to attacks by the GOP of being too radical because it calls to eliminate private insurance plans.
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A report released by the Senate Joint Economic Committee this month found that overpayments to Medicare Advantage plans potentially cost seniors exceedingly more, than if they had been enrolled in traditional Medicare to the tune of about $84 Billion."

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Free government healthcare is lightyears removed from being cheap.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Free government healthcare is lightyears removed from being cheap.

For profit healthcare, prisons, and education should be ILLEGAL. Civilized countries have universal health care. The US has it, but only for Israelis living in Israel.

 

[mark francis]

For profit healthcare, prisons, and education should be ILLEGAL. Civilized countries have universal health care. The US has it, but only for Israelis living in Israel.

Nationalizing private companies and industries has never worked, not even in communist countries.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Nationalizing private companies and industries has never worked, not even in communist countries.

Actually that is not true at all. During WWI, the US government nationalized the German film maker, Agfa. For many years, Agfa. selling its photographic film under the name Ansco. It sold its film a bit cheaper than Eastman Kodak, and was forbidden to advertise. It made a profit every year, and in 1960, was returned to the German company.

You are an ignorant person and do not know diddly. Your seem to see it as your calling to spew ignorant propaganda daily, mostly just stupid crap from the NY Post and Fox News.

 

[mark francis]

Actually that is not true at all. During WWI, the US government nationalized the German film maker, Agfa. For many years, Agfa. selling its photographic film under the name Ansco. It sold its film a bit cheaper than Eastman Kodak, and was forbidden to advertise. It made a profit every year, and in 1960, was returned to the German company.

You are an ignorant person and do not know diddly. Your seem to see it as your calling to spew ignorant propaganda daily, mostly just stupid crap from the NY Post and Fox News.

Here is what happened to destroy Venezuela after Soros linked up with Hugo Chavez and used corrupted voting machines (the same voting machine manufacturers and programmers later used in US elections) to steal elected power by fraud and then nationalize industries as a means of stripping Venezuela of its wealth to enrich the crooks who engineered the communist takeover and theft.

How Nationalization of Industry Causes Massive Job Loss -

How did the mass of innocent Venezuelans cope with the loss of their jobs, livelihoods, possessions, and country post-nationalization?

www.theorganicprepper.com

• Jose from Venezuela

How Nationalization of Industry Causes Massive Job Loss​

• J.G. Martinez D
• May 25, 2022
• 7 Comments

Every Venezuelan has a story of how the nationalization of industry negatively impacted his life. These stories could fill a shelves’ worth of books. We didn’t always have these stories, however. They were forced upon us. We adapted to a post-nationalization world, but it was neither ideal nor desired. But to understand these stories, you first must understand how our economy was before Hugo.

 

[Phoenix68]

How Nationalization of Industry Causes Massive Job Loss -

How did the mass of innocent Venezuelans cope with the loss of their jobs, livelihoods, possessions, and country post-nationalization?

www.theorganicprepper.com

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"The ORGANIC PREPPER!!!!"
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[Gabriel_Bell]

Corruption has been a serious problem in Venezuela since they discovered oil there in the early 1900's. Venezuela has has both right and left wing governments, but all of its governments have had severe competition.

What makes government ownership or control of the means of corruption is a lack of competition, both price competition and quality competition.

Capitalist as a general rule HATE competition and strive to manipulate government and their agencies to prevent competition.

Trump demands that the government take 10% of AMD's profits, and a share of the profits of Tik Tok. That is bad idea. It would be bad idea if Democrats did the same thing, which they don't.

 

[mark francis]

Corruption has been a serious problem in Venezuela since they discovered oil there in the early 1900's. Venezuela has has both right and left wing governments, but all of its governments have had severe competition.

What makes government ownership or control of the means of corruption is a lack of competition, both price competition and quality competition.

Capitalist as a general rule HATE competition and strive to manipulate government and their agencies to prevent competition.

Trump demands that the government take 10% of AMD's profits, and a share of the profits of Tik Tok. That is bad idea. It would be bad idea if Democrats did the same thing, which they don't.

Venezuela did not fall rapidly into deep poverty until Goeorge Soros conspired with Hugo Chavez to steal the election using corrupted voting machines and then turned the country communist with special allowances for Sorios and Chavez and friends to rob the nation blind.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

You do not know one effing thing about the history of Venezuela. Hugo Chavez won his first election with a large majority, and George Soros had nary a thing to do with it. Then the price of oil decreased and he failed to maintain the petroleum industry properly.

You don't know shit, STFU and skulk away, you moronic fundie!

 

[mark francis]

You do not know one effing thing about the history of Venezuela. Hugo Chavez won his first election with a large majority, and George Soros had nary a thing to do with it. Then the price of oil decreased and he failed to maintain the petroleum industry properly.

You don't know shit, STFU and skulk away, you moronic fundie!

Let me ask you this. Was George Soros involved in profiting from Venezuela's oil after Chavez nationalized the industry like a corrupt communist?



Bogus Brazilian Oil Claims - FactCheck.org

Bogus Brazilian Oil Claims

By Brooks Jackson

Posted on September 18, 2009

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Q: Did Obama loan $2 billion to Brazil’s oil company to benefit China and George Soros?

A: The president had nothing to do with the loan, which the Export-Import Bank approved for Brazil to buy U.S.-made equipment and services.


Today even though President Obama is against off shore drilling for oil for this country. He signed an executive order to loan 2 Billion of our taxpayers dollars to a Brazilian Oil Exploration Company (which is the 8th largest company in the entire world) to drill for oil off the coast of Brazil. The oil that comes from this operation is for the sole purpose and use of China and not the USA. The Chinese government is under contract to purchase all the oil that this oil field will produce, which is hundreds of millions of barrels of oil".

We have absolutely no gain from this transaction whatsoever.
Wait it gets more interesting.

Guess who is the largest individual stockholder of this Brazilian Oil Company and who would benefit most from this? It is American Billionaire, George Soros, Liberal businessman who is a radical left wing supporter, finances MoveOn.org <http://moveon.org/> as well as other liberal programs and was President Obama’s largest and most generous supporter during his campaign. If you are able to connect the dots and follow the money, you are probably as upset as I am. Not a word of this transaction was on any of the other news networks.