Israel, Kirk, & the Coming Repression

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which is more believable..yet another "lone nut" assassin..or an operation by some shadowy zionist organisation,
complete with a patsy, against someone who seems to be turning against the settler project ...

Kirk’s refusal to accept Zionist financial contributions as well as his deepening disconnection from Israel “left him feeling cold and anxious and even in the words of the friend, frightened,” Blumenthal tells Hedges.

Max Blumenthal: Yeah, I’ve been writing about him since 2015, three years after he started TPUSA [Turning Point USA], which became the largest, most influential conservative youth organization in history. And at that time he was at the forefront of a massive infusion of Israel lobby cash into his group through the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which was basically making him the property of Israel in exchange for this sort of Faustian bargain.

Israel’s exerting, under [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu, so much control on Trump, amid a genocide, that the grassroots have turned against it. And if you look at recent polling, YouGov polling, Pew polling, all of them show about only 25% of Republicans under 35 support Israel over the Palestinians.

If you actually pay attention to what Nick Fuentes — who’s the most influential right-wing, America First streamer — says they’re not just upset over Jewish influence. They’re not just being anti-Jewish. They’re actually upset by the same things that upset us — the deliberate starvation of a civilian population unfolding in real time, and then watching their president just fold to a foreign apartheid state.

And so this pressure was building within Charlie Kirk’s camp, and Charlie Kirk himself was beginning to turn and it all exploded out in the open at the Student Action Summit, which I believe was in Tampa, Florida in July, 2025.

And that’s where Charlie Kirk brought Tucker Carlson, someone who had already turned on this issue on stage to not only talk about how Jeffrey Epstein was possibly a Mossad agent, but to call for those who had gone and fought for Israel, American Jews who had gone to fought for Israel’s military rather than the U.S. military to be stripped of their citizenship.

And he called out Bill Ackman, one of the most influential Zionist billionaires in the U.S. who is a Netanyahu cutout who had been sort of manipulating and bullying Harvard into submission. His money got Claudine Gay as president out at Harvard. He mocked Bill Ackman as a financial con artist. He literally called him a scam artist and questioned where his money came from. And the crowd was cheering and delighting in this entire spectacle.

Megyn Kelly from Fox was calling Jeffrey Epstein a Mossad agent. Then Charlie Kirk opened up the floor to a debate on the very issue of Zionism and brought on an anti-Zionist Jew, a comedian named Dave Smith, to debate a Zionist apparatchik at Newsweek named Joshua Hammer. And Dave Smith like mopped the floor with him. He’s very effective. He was also talking about human rights abuses and the crowd was clearly with him.

And after this summit, Charlie Kirk was bombarded with furious text messages, phone calls. There may have been meetings as well, very tense meetings as well, with his donors — the people who built him up and they said we built you up, we can take all of this away from you if you don’t stop this and we are laying down the law.

And this offended him, alienated him. He was not used to being talked to like that, as though he were property, but when you join the firm, you don’t get to leave. And at the same time, I was told by a long-time friend of Charlie Kirk that he was frightened by the way he was being treated.

Basically, a mafia was reading him the Riot Act.


comrade stalin
moscow
 
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Netanyahu is evil, but he is far from stupid. The entire assassination could have been a Mossad plot, and everything Patel says is just fiction. Likely that Shitshizpants will be a-pushin' up the daisies before we know the real truth.
 
It’s true that for almost the entirety of his career Kirk was a beneficiary of Zionist largesse, allowing him to grow his Turning Point USA organization into “the largest Conservative student movement in the US, with groups at more than 3,500 universities and high schools.” Kirk would often attribute TPUSA’s success to his friend and mentor David Horowitz, conceding that “without David Horowitz, I’m not sure Turning Point USA would exist.” Relationships like these went a long way towards ensuring Charlie stayed on message whenever the subject of Israel was raised. (Like for example, when he dismissed the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty as a “conspiracy theory.”)

But running interference for a terrorist state engaged in an ongoing genocide will eventually begin to wear on the conscience of any halfway decent man, and in more recent years Kirk had begun to wander off the Zionist reservation. In fact, on his final podcast with Ben Shapiro, recorded one day before his death, Kirk suggested that people ought to be more critical of media reports regarding Israel:


comrade stalin
moscow
 
a man who has killed over 45000 women and children will feel no qualms about getting rid of a troublesome activist
who is now asking real questions...

Charlie Kirk rejected an offer earlier this year from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to arrange a massive new infusion of Zionist money into his Turning Point USA (TPUSA) organization, America’s largest conservative youth association, according to a longtime friend of the slain commentator speaking on the condition of anonymity. The source told The Grayzone that the late pro-Trump influencer believed Netanyahu was trying to cow him into silence as he began to publicly question Israel’s overwhelming influence in Washington and demanded more space to criticize it.

In the weeks leading up to his September 10 assassination, Kirk had come to loathe the Israeli leader, regarding him as a “bully,” the source said. Kirk was disgusted by what he witnessed inside the Trump administration, where Netanyahu sought to personally dictate the president’s personnel decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets like billionaire donor Miriam Adelson to keep the White House firmly under its thumb.

According to Kirk’s friend, who also enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and his inner circle, Kirk strongly warned Trump last June against bombing Iran on Israel’s behalf. “Charlie was the only person who did that,” they said, recalling how Trump “barked at him” in response and angrily shut down the conversation. The source believes the incident confirmed in Kirk’s mind that the president of the United States had fallen under the control of a malign foreign power, and was leading his own country into a series of disastrous conflicts


comrade stalin
moscow
 
Netanyahu is evil, but he is far from stupid. The entire assassination could have been a Mossad plot, and everything Patel says is just fiction. Likely that Shitshizpants will be a-pushin' up the daisies before we know the real truth.
Drunken dummies sit in their cushy armchairs attempting to solve the world's problems using the best acceptable democrat propaganda on the market.
 
read this and you will understand why any possible threat to the theocracy that is israel is dealt with
lies and violence

an apostate like kirk must be killed to remove the threat of a good example

"..The Talmud says: "If someone comes to kill you, rise up and kill him first." This instinct to take every measure, even the most aggressive, to defend the Jewish people is hardwired into Israel's DNA. From the very beginning of its statehood in 1948, protecting the nation from harm has been the responsibility of its intelligence community and armed services, and there is one weapon in their vast arsenal that they have relied upon to thwart the most serious threats: Targeted assassinations have been used countless times, on enemies large and small, sometimes in response to attacks against the Israeli people and sometimes preemptively.

In this pause-resisting, eye-opening audiobook, journalist and military analyst Ronen Bergman - praised by David Remnick as "arguably [Israel's] best investigative reporter" - offers a riveting inside account of the targeted killing programs: their successes, their failures, and the moral and political price exacted on the men and women who approved and carried out the missions.

Bergman has gained the exceedingly rare cooperation of many current and former members of the Israeli government, including Prime Ministers Shimon Peres, Ehud Barak, Ariel Sharon, and Benjamin Netanyahu, as well as high-level figures in the country's military and intelligence services: the IDF (Israel Defense Forces), the Mossad (the world's most feared intelligence agency), Caesarea (a "Mossad within the Mossad" that carries out attacks on the highest-value targets), and the Shin Bet (an internal security service that implemented the largest targeted assassination campaign ever, in order to stop what had once appeared to be unstoppable: suicide terrorism).

Including never-before-reported, behind-the-curtain accounts of key operations, and based on hundreds of on-the-record interviews and thousands of files to which Bergman has gotten exclusive access over his decades of reporting, Rise and Kill First brings us deep into the heart of Israel’s most secret activities. Bergman traces, from statehood to the present, the gripping events and thorny ethical questions underlying Israel’s targeted killing campaign, which has shaped the Israeli nation, the Middle East, and the entire world.


comrade stalin
gaza genocide is the issue
 
read this and you will understand why any possible threat to the theocracy that is israel is dealt with
lies and violence

an apostate like kirk must be killed to remove the threat of a good example

"..The Talmud says: "If someone comes to kill you, rise up and kill him first." This instinct to take every measure, even the most aggressive, to defend the Jewish people is hardwired into Israel's DNA. From the very beginning of its statehood in 1948, protecting the nation from harm has been the responsibility of its intelligence community and armed services, and there is one weapon in their vast arsenal that they have relied upon to thwart the most serious threats: Targeted assassinations have been used countless times, on enemies large and small, sometimes in response to attacks against the Israeli people and sometimes preemptively.

In this pause-resisting, eye-opening audiobook, journalist and military analyst Ronen Bergman - praised by David Remnick as "arguably [Israel's] best investigative reporter" - offers a riveting inside account of the targeted killing programs: their successes, their failures, and the moral and political price exacted on the men and women who approved and carried out the missions.

Bergman has gained the exceedingly rare cooperation of many current and former members of the Israeli government, including Prime Ministers Shimon Peres, Ehud Barak, Ariel Sharon, and Benjamin Netanyahu, as well as high-level figures in the country's military and intelligence services: the IDF (Israel Defense Forces), the Mossad (the world's most feared intelligence agency), Caesarea (a "Mossad within the Mossad" that carries out attacks on the highest-value targets), and the Shin Bet (an internal security service that implemented the largest targeted assassination campaign ever, in order to stop what had once appeared to be unstoppable: suicide terrorism).

Including never-before-reported, behind-the-curtain accounts of key operations, and based on hundreds of on-the-record interviews and thousands of files to which Bergman has gotten exclusive access over his decades of reporting, Rise and Kill First brings us deep into the heart of Israel’s most secret activities. Bergman traces, from statehood to the present, the gripping events and thorny ethical questions underlying Israel’s targeted killing campaign, which has shaped the Israeli nation, the Middle East, and the entire world.


comrade stalin
gaza genocide is the issue
No murder of a non-violent, non-criminal victim by a radicalized political assassin will ever be justified.
 
Shitshizpants is NOT a non-criminal victim, he is a convicted criminal. He always like to pretend that he is a victim, but he is normally a conman working a con.
 
Shitshizpants is NOT a non-criminal victim, he is a convicted criminal. He always like to pretend that he is a victim, but he is normally a conman working a con.
Democrat proved their KKK days of condemning innocent blacks has since evolved in the democrat condemnation of innocent American patriots.
 
which is more believable..yet another "lone nut" assassin..or an operation by some shadowy zionist organisation,
complete with a patsy, against someone who seems to be turning against the settler project ...

Kirk’s refusal to accept Zionist financial contributions as well as his deepening disconnection from Israel “left him feeling cold and anxious and even in the words of the friend, frightened,” Blumenthal tells Hedges.

Max Blumenthal: Yeah, I’ve been writing about him since 2015, three years after he started TPUSA [Turning Point USA], which became the largest, most influential conservative youth organization in history. And at that time he was at the forefront of a massive infusion of Israel lobby cash into his group through the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which was basically making him the property of Israel in exchange for this sort of Faustian bargain.

Israel’s exerting, under [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu, so much control on Trump, amid a genocide, that the grassroots have turned against it. And if you look at recent polling, YouGov polling, Pew polling, all of them show about only 25% of Republicans under 35 support Israel over the Palestinians.

If you actually pay attention to what Nick Fuentes — who’s the most influential right-wing, America First streamer — says they’re not just upset over Jewish influence. They’re not just being anti-Jewish. They’re actually upset by the same things that upset us — the deliberate starvation of a civilian population unfolding in real time, and then watching their president just fold to a foreign apartheid state.

And so this pressure was building within Charlie Kirk’s camp, and Charlie Kirk himself was beginning to turn and it all exploded out in the open at the Student Action Summit, which I believe was in Tampa, Florida in July, 2025.

And that’s where Charlie Kirk brought Tucker Carlson, someone who had already turned on this issue on stage to not only talk about how Jeffrey Epstein was possibly a Mossad agent, but to call for those who had gone and fought for Israel, American Jews who had gone to fought for Israel’s military rather than the U.S. military to be stripped of their citizenship.

And he called out Bill Ackman, one of the most influential Zionist billionaires in the U.S. who is a Netanyahu cutout who had been sort of manipulating and bullying Harvard into submission. His money got Claudine Gay as president out at Harvard. He mocked Bill Ackman as a financial con artist. He literally called him a scam artist and questioned where his money came from. And the crowd was cheering and delighting in this entire spectacle.

Megyn Kelly from Fox was calling Jeffrey Epstein a Mossad agent. Then Charlie Kirk opened up the floor to a debate on the very issue of Zionism and brought on an anti-Zionist Jew, a comedian named Dave Smith, to debate a Zionist apparatchik at Newsweek named Joshua Hammer. And Dave Smith like mopped the floor with him. He’s very effective. He was also talking about human rights abuses and the crowd was clearly with him.

And after this summit, Charlie Kirk was bombarded with furious text messages, phone calls. There may have been meetings as well, very tense meetings as well, with his donors — the people who built him up and they said we built you up, we can take all of this away from you if you don’t stop this and we are laying down the law.

And this offended him, alienated him. He was not used to being talked to like that, as though he were property, but when you join the firm, you don’t get to leave. And at the same time, I was told by a long-time friend of Charlie Kirk that he was frightened by the way he was being treated.

Basically, a mafia was reading him the Riot Act.


comrade stalin
moscow
 
well then you should condemn the actions of the IDF

comrade stalin
mosocw
You seem ignorant of diplomatic realities in the Arab world. Israel has not declared any intention of killing every Arab in sight but Arabs have declared their intention of killing every Jew in sight.
 
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which is more believable..yet another "lone nut" assassin..or an operation by some shadowy zionist organisation,
complete with a patsy, against someone who seems to be turning against the settler project ...

Kirk’s refusal to accept Zionist financial contributions as well as his deepening disconnection from Israel “left him feeling cold and anxious and even in the words of the friend, frightened,” Blumenthal tells Hedges.

Max Blumenthal: Yeah, I’ve been writing about him since 2015, three years after he started TPUSA [Turning Point USA], which became the largest, most influential conservative youth organization in history. And at that time he was at the forefront of a massive infusion of Israel lobby cash into his group through the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which was basically making him the property of Israel in exchange for this sort of Faustian bargain.

Israel’s exerting, under [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu, so much control on Trump, amid a genocide, that the grassroots have turned against it. And if you look at recent polling, YouGov polling, Pew polling, all of them show about only 25% of Republicans under 35 support Israel over the Palestinians.

If you actually pay attention to what Nick Fuentes — who’s the most influential right-wing, America First streamer — says they’re not just upset over Jewish influence. They’re not just being anti-Jewish. They’re actually upset by the same things that upset us — the deliberate starvation of a civilian population unfolding in real time, and then watching their president just fold to a foreign apartheid state.

And so this pressure was building within Charlie Kirk’s camp, and Charlie Kirk himself was beginning to turn and it all exploded out in the open at the Student Action Summit, which I believe was in Tampa, Florida in July, 2025.

And that’s where Charlie Kirk brought Tucker Carlson, someone who had already turned on this issue on stage to not only talk about how Jeffrey Epstein was possibly a Mossad agent, but to call for those who had gone and fought for Israel, American Jews who had gone to fought for Israel’s military rather than the U.S. military to be stripped of their citizenship.

And he called out Bill Ackman, one of the most influential Zionist billionaires in the U.S. who is a Netanyahu cutout who had been sort of manipulating and bullying Harvard into submission. His money got Claudine Gay as president out at Harvard. He mocked Bill Ackman as a financial con artist. He literally called him a scam artist and questioned where his money came from. And the crowd was cheering and delighting in this entire spectacle.

Megyn Kelly from Fox was calling Jeffrey Epstein a Mossad agent. Then Charlie Kirk opened up the floor to a debate on the very issue of Zionism and brought on an anti-Zionist Jew, a comedian named Dave Smith, to debate a Zionist apparatchik at Newsweek named Joshua Hammer. And Dave Smith like mopped the floor with him. He’s very effective. He was also talking about human rights abuses and the crowd was clearly with him.

And after this summit, Charlie Kirk was bombarded with furious text messages, phone calls. There may have been meetings as well, very tense meetings as well, with his donors — the people who built him up and they said we built you up, we can take all of this away from you if you don’t stop this and we are laying down the law.

And this offended him, alienated him. He was not used to being talked to like that, as though he were property, but when you join the firm, you don’t get to leave. And at the same time, I was told by a long-time friend of Charlie Kirk that he was frightened by the way he was being treated.

Basically, a mafia was reading him the Riot Act.


comrade stalin
moscow
You probably have not seen any of Kirk’s interactions with all people!
 
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