Joe Biden gave a "creepy" speech over the weekend

I think McCain should just plain use O's own words against him on the subject of the draft...

ServiceNation Presidential Forum at Columbia University on Sept. 11, 2008


But it’s also important that a president speaks to military service as an obligation not just of some, but of many. You know, I traveled, obviously, a lot over the last 19 months. And if you go to small towns, throughout the Midwest or the Southwest or the South, every town has tons of young people who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s not always the case in other parts of the country, in more urban centers. And I think it’s important for the president to say, this is an important obligation. If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.
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Then add this tidbit from Michelle..

In a Hitler-like speech given at UCLA on February 19, Michelle Obama made these statements:

Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.

You have to stay at the seat at the table of democracy with a man like Barack Obama not just on Tuesday but in a year from now, in four years from now, in eights years from now, you will have to be engaged.
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Petunia said:
I think McCain should just plain use O's own words against him on the subject of the draft...

ServiceNation Presidential Forum at Columbia University on Sept. 11, 2008




Then add this tidbit from Michelle..
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UGH I really hate those two people. If he starts a draft I hope to God people will revolt and spit right in his face.
 
GenSeneca said:
Nice try... :rolleyes:

"Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis.."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities.

NOT ONCE DID BIDEN MENTION A DOMESTIC CRISIS!!!
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Oh, so you are more interested in playing stupid word games instead of accually understanding what message Biden was conveying, that despite who gets elected they might be tested.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the U.S. may be vulnerable to a terrorist attack during the next six months, with violent groups more likely to try to take advantage of a new president and administration.
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Nobody, you or Biden, can accurately predict where it will come from, domestic or international.
 
lipmonkey said:
Oh, so you are more interested in playing stupid word games instead of accually understanding what message Biden was conveying, that despite who gets elected they might be tested.
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Biden's message was clear, you are the one plalying games by trying to shift attention away from his actual words.

There was no "Might" about it... Biden was guarenteeing that Obama would be tested if elected, you know thats horribly damaging for the Obama campaign, and thus hope to avoid or deflect the issue.
 
NO Obamanation said:
well I guess to quote "the One"

[thats the change they need]


they dont care, they are mindless robots who follow like blind sheep

hope change believe progress
and they have not a clue what any of that really means.
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From what I understand the Army does not even really want a draft.
 
Pandora said:
Joe Biden gave a speech over the weekend that was well... creepy. I like this guy a whole lot and I dont like him less for the speech but the speech was really rather creepy.

here is some of what he said this weekend in Seattle Washington

October 20, 2008 7:35 AM

ABC News' Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."
Not only will the next administration have to deal with foreign affairs issues, Biden warned, but also with the current economic crisis.

"Gird your loins," Biden told the crowd. "We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy."

The Delaware lawmaker managed to rake in an estimated $1 million total from his two money hauls at the downtown Sheraton, the same hotel where four years ago Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., clinched the Democratic nomination. Despite warning about the difficulties the next administration will face, Biden said the Democratic ticket is equipped to meet the challenges head on.

"I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it," the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. "This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."
"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision'," Biden continued. "Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."
Biden emphasized that the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border is of particular concern, with Osama bin Laden "alive and well" and Pakistan "bristling with nuclear weapons."

"You literally can see what these kids are up against, our kids in that region," Biden said in recalling when his helicopter was forced down due to a snowstorm there. "The place is crawling with al Qaeda. And it's real."

"We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes," he cautioned. "It's so much more important than that. It's so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it."

After speaking for just over a quarter of an hour, Biden noticed the media presence in the back of the small ballroom.

"I probably shouldn't have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here," he joked.

"All kidding aside, these guys have left us in a God-awful place," he then said of the Bush regime, promptly wrapping up his remarks. "We have the ability to straighten it out. It's gonna take a little bit of time, so I ask you to stay with us. Stay with us."




http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2110109/posts?page=66

what does he mean? What decisions will he make and why wont they be popular? this whole thing is creepy
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This is more evidence that Biden's creepiness goes way back.
 
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