Do you have similar problems with McCain supporters and friends Revs Hagee and Parsley? Hagee, among other things, has called the Catholic church, "the great whore" and claims hurricane Katrina was God's way of getting back at New Orleans for holding a gay parade. Parsley is right up your alley, as he has called for the complete extermination of the Islamic religion.where is Jesse, and Sharpton now?
this Rev Wright is a piece of work, can you say "racist"?
Obama's Minister Committed "Treason"
but When my Father Said the Same Thing He Was a Republican Hero
When Senator Obama's preacher thundered about racism and injustice Obama suffered smear-by-association. But when my late father -- Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer -- denounced America and even called for the violent overthrow of the US government, he was invited to lunch with presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush, Sr.
Every Sunday thousands of right wing white preachers (following in my father's footsteps) rail against America's sins from tens of thousands of pulpits. They tell us that America is complicit in the "murder of the unborn," has become "Sodom" by coddling gays, and that our public schools are sinful places full of evolutionists and sex educators hell-bent on corrupting children. They say, as my dad often did, that we are, "under the judgment of God." They call America evil and warn of immanent destruction. By comparison Obama's minister's shouted "controversial" comments were mild. All he said was that God should damn America for our racism and violence and that no one had ever used the N-word about Hillary Clinton.
Dad and I were amongst the founders of the Religious right. In the 1970s and 1980s, while Dad and I crisscrossed America denouncing our nation's sins instead of getting in trouble we became darlings of the Republican Party. (This was while I was my father's sidekick before I dropped out of the evangelical movement altogether.) We were rewarded for our "stand" by people such as Congressman Jack Kemp, the Fords, Reagan and the Bush family. The top Republican leadership depended on preachers and agitators like us to energize their rank and file. No one called us un-American.
Where does he encourage violence on the streets? When he says protest and struggle, civil war and civil disobedience? None of those have to be violent. Ever heard of non-violent civil disobedience and non-violent protest?
An educated American would realise the value of restricting the federal governments actions, often through civil disobedience, when they overstep the mark. However, your government has very cleverly manipulated YOU into a position where you believe that questioning its actions directly supports terrorism. Unfortunate circumstance.
Do you have similar problems with McCain supporters and friends Revs Hagee and Parsley? Hagee, among other things, has called the Catholic church, "the great whore" and claims hurricane Katrina was God's way of getting back at New Orleans for holding a gay parade. Parsley is right up your alley, as he has called for the complete extermination of the Islamic religion.
Here is some more on the double standard being employed:
then Obama says:
"And yet words on a parchment would not be enough to deliver slaves from bondage, or provide men and women of every color and creed their full rights and obligations as citizens of the United States. What would be needed were Americans in successive generations who were willing to do their part – through protests and struggle, on the streets and in the courts, through a civil war and civil disobedience and always at great risk - to narrow that gap between the promise of our ideals and the reality of their time."
this encouraging violence in the streets and is quite disturbing.
Okay, I read your link. It is another link in a long line of Frank Schaeffer's apparent attempts to qualify himself at the expense of offering his father and mother as sacrifice. If you'd like to read another "insider's" perspective on Frank Schaeffer and his self-lauded book and life's work at skewering Francis Schaeffer, check this one out: http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2008/002/1.32.html
It is an honest, heart-felt and intellectually honest review by a very close friend of the whole family.
Your citing of Hagee and Parsley are out of context and meaningless. Neither is the pastor of John McCain. He has not attended nor been a member of either church. Neither of these pastors are his spiritual adviser, and neither has retired from their ministry to participate in his campaign.
Hagee's comments must also be put in context. He is a firm subscriber to Biblical prophecy, and his comments are often his interpretations, his understanding of what the prophetic scriptures could mean. While his techniques may at times be strident, I think his criticism of the Catholic Church are also over-inflated. Yeah, sure. He does connect the Catholic Church with the Biblical terminology of "the great whore". I've heard him use that comparison, but it is about the Catholic Church as a socio-political power, not as the force it should be, and often is, for the spread of the love of God and the gospel message. I guess time will tell if his interpretation is right, but he is in no way advocating hatred or violence towards the individual Catholic or asking God to damn them. If any are damned or not, that will be between them and God.
The point is that it is absolutely ludicrous to use any and every one that supports McCain as a justification for the venom from the heart and mouth of the spiritual leader of Obama. I guess with 20 years of membership in this church, listening to this wonderful social gospel espoused as so necessary in the black community, it's no wonder that Michelle Obama is so hard pressed to find anything good to say about a country that has been of such personal benefit.