Opinion: There’s a smarter way to eliminate Hamas

[pjmret]

an interesting read, especially for those of you who are cheering on isreal and saying "what else can they do?".

remember the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. that is what is happening in isreal/palestine for decades now...terrorists kill innocent people, there is a heavy handed military response that kills innocent people, more terrorists are created, and the cycle sadly continues.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/opinions/israel-flawed-strategy-defeating-hamas-pape/index.html

Israel’s strategy for defeating Hamas — destroying its military and political capabilities to the point where the terrorist group can never again launch major attacks against Israeli civilians — is unlikely to work.

Indeed, Israel is likely already producing more terrorists than it’s killing.

To defeat terrorist groups like Hamas, it is important to separate the terrorists from the local population from which they emerge. Otherwise, the current generation of terrorists can be killed, only to be replaced by a new, larger generation of terrorists in the future. (This is described by experts as “counterinsurgency mathematics.” )

 

[Boris Norris]

an interesting read, especially for those of you who are cheering on isreal and saying "what else can they do?".

remember the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. that is what is happening in isreal/palestine for decades now...terrorists kill innocent people, there is a heavy handed military response that kills innocent people, more terrorists are created, and the cycle sadly continues.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/opinions/israel-flawed-strategy-defeating-hamas-pape/index.html

Israel’s strategy for defeating Hamas — destroying its military and political capabilities to the point where the terrorist group can never again launch major attacks against Israeli civilians — is unlikely to work.

Indeed, Israel is likely already producing more terrorists than it’s killing.

To defeat terrorist groups like Hamas, it is important to separate the terrorists from the local population from which they emerge. Otherwise, the current generation of terrorists can be killed, only to be replaced by a new, larger generation of terrorists in the future. (This is described by experts as “counterinsurgency mathematics.” )

As far as I'm concerned Israel should glass the place and those remotely sympathetic to terrorism.

Palestinians have used Hamas as security against Israel. It's now proven to be a false.

Let Iran and Lebanon chime in. See how good they are against USA weaponry.

 

[mark francis]

an interesting read, especially for those of you who are cheering on isreal and saying "what else can they do?".

remember the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. that is what is happening in isreal/palestine for decades now...terrorists kill innocent people, there is a heavy handed military response that kills innocent people, more terrorists are created, and the cycle sadly continues.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/opinions/israel-flawed-strategy-defeating-hamas-pape/index.html

Israel’s strategy for defeating Hamas — destroying its military and political capabilities to the point where the terrorist group can never again launch major attacks against Israeli civilians — is unlikely to work.

Indeed, Israel is likely already producing more terrorists than it’s killing.

To defeat terrorist groups like Hamas, it is important to separate the terrorists from the local population from which they emerge. Otherwise, the current generation of terrorists can be killed, only to be replaced by a new, larger generation of terrorists in the future. (This is described by experts as “counterinsurgency mathematics.” )

How does a civilized nation root out terrorists from among tribal communities where the children are taught from their youth to glorify the religious warriors of their bloodthirsty God? Palestinian children idolizing Hamas terrorists are like black children in the US idolizing blacks who assault cops. Rooting out bigotry, ignorance, and racism is very hard when the adults promote such depravity and encourage it in their children.




https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/video-shows-child-hit-and-swear-at-cop-in-minnesota/Top of Form

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Child hits and swears at cop in ‘heartbreaking’ video from Minnesota

By

Lee Brown

July 12, 2022 7:35am

Shocking video footage has emerged of a young child repeatedly hitting a Minnesota cop who was there to arrest a murder suspect — calling the officer a “b—h” and telling his colleague to “shut the f–k up!”

The clip released by Alpha News was filmed last week in St. Paul, a city that saw widespread rioting after the nearby police murder of George Floyd and manslaughter of motorist Daunte Wright.

“Shut up, b—h!” screamed the young child, who appeared to be only a few years old and wearing just underwear while standing in the street, with an even younger child in a diaper just behind him.

He then strode up and hit one of them, repeating, “Shut up, b—h!”

“Shut the f–k up!” the kid then screams at the other officer, who was wearing a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) vest, telling him his work boots are “those ugly-ass church shoes.”

 

[pjmret]

How does a civilized nation root out terrorists from among tribal communities where the children are taught from their youth to glorify the religious warriors of their bloodthirsty God? Palestinian children idolizing Hamas terrorists are like black children in the US idolizing blacks who assault cops. Rooting out bigotry, ignorance, and racism is very hard when the adults promote such depravity and encourage it in their children.


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https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/video-shows-child-hit-and-swear-at-cop-in-minnesota/Top of Form

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Child hits and swears at cop in ‘heartbreaking’ video from Minnesota

By

Lee Brown

July 12, 2022 7:35am

Shocking video footage has emerged of a young child repeatedly hitting a Minnesota cop who was there to arrest a murder suspect — calling the officer a “b—h” and telling his colleague to “shut the f–k up!”

The clip released by Alpha News was filmed last week in St. Paul, a city that saw widespread rioting after the nearby police murder of George Floyd and manslaughter of motorist Daunte Wright.

“Shut up, b—h!” screamed the young child, who appeared to be only a few years old and wearing just underwear while standing in the street, with an even younger child in a diaper just behind him.

He then strode up and hit one of them, repeating, “Shut up, b—h!”

“Shut the f–k up!” the kid then screams at the other officer, who was wearing a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) vest, telling him his work boots are “those ugly-ass church shoes.”


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its a process that takes a lot of time and effort. Treat the general population with respect and care, like, you know, the bible says, win them over so that they aren't incented to become terrorists, make sure their lives have meaning and something to live for, etc. Basically you don't want to be the bad guys blowing up babies, which just leads to more terrorists, you want to be seen as decent human beings.

but its a lot easier just to blow up a bunch of people, declare "mission accomplished", win re-election, and then hope the next terror attack comes after you've left office, because blowing up terrorists doesn't work.

 

[mark francis]

its a process that takes a lot of time and effort. Treat the general population with respect and care, like, you know, the bible says, win them over so that they aren't incented to become terrorists, make sure their lives have meaning and something to live for, etc. Basically you don't want to be the bad guys blowing up babies, which just leads to more terrorists, you want to be seen as decent human beings.

but its a lot easier just to blow up a bunch of people, declare "mission accomplished", win re-election, and then hope the next terror attack comes after you've left office, because blowing up terrorists doesn't work.

God had a way to root out ingrained bias and hatred in a society. He had Israel wipe out the entire deluded tribal mob of deluded barbarians, including the women and children.

 

[pjmret]

God had a way to root out ingrained bias and hatred in a society. He had Israel wipe out the entire deluded tribal mob of deluded barbarians, including the women and children.

then god better show up soon and deal with this mess because isreal blowing up babies isn't working.

 

[mark francis]

then god better show up soon and deal with this mess because isreal blowing up babies isn't working.

Aren't there any men in Palestine willing to fight Israel for killing Palestinian babies? Why is that our problem?

 

[pjmret]

Aren't there any men in Palestine willing to fight Israel for killing Palestinian babies? Why is that our problem?

good question. why is any of this our problem?

well maybe because it threatens world peace and the global economy if it gets too out of hand.

 

[pjmret]

another article:

And Israel must broaden its statement of purpose. Currently focused only on eradicating Hamas and the safe return of the hostages, Israel should instead articulate comprehensive strategic objectives that seek to advance (or at least not undermine) other interests, including regional stability and normalized diplomatic relations with its neighbors.

Absent broader strategic goals and action to further them, Israel could easily fall into the trap set by Hamas and Iran — seeking to decimate Hamas but, in so doing, undermining the prospect for the return of the hostages, alienating regional partnerships, strengthening Iran’s influence and fomenting a new generation of Arab youths to sustain the cycle of violence between Israel and its neighbors.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/opinions/israel-hamas-us-biden-obama-iran-rosenthal/index.html

so again, no one denies isreal has the right to attack and kill people in hamas, but HOW they do that matters greatly. If all they do is "drop bombs", then that means the next retaliation will be coming, and the cycle of violence just continues

 

[mark francis]

good question. why is any of this our problem?

well maybe because it threatens world peace and the global economy if it gets too out of hand.

Like WW2 or the Vietnam War?

 

[mark francis]

another article:

And Israel must broaden its statement of purpose. Currently focused only on eradicating Hamas and the safe return of the hostages, Israel should instead articulate comprehensive strategic objectives that seek to advance (or at least not undermine) other interests, including regional stability and normalized diplomatic relations with its neighbors.

Absent broader strategic goals and action to further them, Israel could easily fall into the trap set by Hamas and Iran — seeking to decimate Hamas but, in so doing, undermining the prospect for the return of the hostages, alienating regional partnerships, strengthening Iran’s influence and fomenting a new generation of Arab youths to sustain the cycle of violence between Israel and its neighbors.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/opinions/israel-hamas-us-biden-obama-iran-rosenthal/index.html

so again, no one denies isreal has the right to attack and kill people in hamas, but HOW they do that matters greatly. If all they do is "drop bombs", then that means the next retaliation will be coming, and the cycle of violence just continues

Israel has been battling deranged opponents the world over for thousands of years and deranged Muslims and Arabs in Judea for at least 100 years.

 

[pjmret]

Like WW2 or the Vietnam War?

sure, like those wars. which were of course somewhat different wars than the one isreal is in. Lots of things threaten world peace and the global economy.

 

[pjmret]

Israel has been battling deranged opponents the world over for thousands of years and deranged Muslims and Arabs in Judea for at least 100 years.

maybe they should try something different than constant battling.

remember the definition of insanity

 

[mark francis]

maybe they should try something different than constant battling.

remember the definition of insanity

The only option to resisting genocide is to just lay down and be murdered like the degenerate savage barbarians of the world want them to do.

 

[pjmret]

The only option to resisting genocide is to just lay down and be murdered like the degenerate savage barbarians of the world want them to do.

that's the ony option you can think of?
well you never were accused of being that smart. lol