US/Israel hypocrisy

[cashmcall]

I wonder what the American left would do if Israel were overrun by the Muslims. We know Hamas would proceed to murder every last Jewish man, women, and child and lots of Muslim Israelis too...in Nazi fashion. Would the left do anything to stop the bloodshed? I think not.

I base my opinion on what the Left did in SE Asia when the commies overran Vietnam and Cambodia murdering millions because the liberals in Congress reneged on our promise to support S. Vietnam. And look what the Left's biggest hero (FDR) did to Eastern Europe. He enslaved them to 50 years of domination and suffering by the commie Soviets. When you add in the Left's hatred of Israel and admiration of Hamas, it is easy to conclude that Hitler's Final Solution could be accomplished, while the Left willfully looks away.

The Israelis must know the USA run by liberals is not an ally to be counted on.

Very good point..

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

You know, God had a sense of humour. He gave his chosen people (the Jews) enormous advantages -- high intelligence and high drive -- but to keep it fair he deprived them of something hugely important too.. Political sense. So Jews to this day tend very strongly to be Liberals.. even though the chief source of antisemitism for roughly the last 200 years has been the political Left!

Bizarre. Hitler was a fascist. I know you Americans are blinded by the word 'socialism' but you really to understand that Hitler's party was called National Socialist which is a benign sounding name for a fascist and very right wing party

Anti semitism is really old and left wing governments didn't really exist until a hundred years ago

And the leader of Israel is an extreme right winger like most of the Jews advising Bush

Apart from that you are dead right

 

[Dr.Who]

Bizarre. Hitler was a fascist. I know you Americans are blinded by the word 'socialism' but you really to understand that Hitler's party was called National Socialist which is a benign sounding name for a fascist and very right wing party

Anti semitism is really old and left wing governments didn't really exist until a hundred years ago

And the leader of Israel is an extreme right winger like most of the Jews advising Bush

Apart from that you are dead right

Any party with the word "socialist" in its name is clearly not benign and we need go no further to figure that out. By the way who knows that here in the States there is a party called the Democratic Socialists, that Obama headlined for them, and that many Democratic congressmen are members. Who can tell me some platform differences between the DNC and the Democratic Socialists?


How far back do the ideas of socialism go? Can you say "Plato", "The French Revolution"?

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

You are so blinded by the word socialism by the propaganda of the rich on the right mixed withe stupidity of the masses on the right

Socialism is a political philosophy that seeks to look after everyone

In essence it is what Jesus Christ preached when he said love thy neighbour as thyself

Part of becoming more civilised as a nation is moving away from the laws of the jungle which is pretty much what right politics is towards a more caring society that seeks in some way at least to ensure that everyone has basic things like medical care, food, accommodation etc.

The vast majority of people get this and are happy that their fellow man is looked after when in trouble

Except for the fuckwits on the right who are too stupid to get this.

They are largely christians who argue against socialism which makes them politically stupid and raging hypocrites into the bargain.

The right paint the poor as feckless and lazy so that the idiots who support them will support policies that are vicious towards them

But most people are in poverty through no fault of their own

They are born into it largely and find escaping from it really hard

One third of the US working population earns $9 per hour or less. Millions have lost their jobs

These people are not choosing poverty. They are doing the best they can in a racist and unfair society.

They can't afford health insurance and so many of you dickheads on this board would happily see them get sick and not be able to get treatment

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[dogtowner]

Jesus did not advocate governmemt taking care of everybody he advocated you, the individual whose soul he wants save to do it.
you really need to.avoid references to religion as you sre ignorant of it.

 

[Dr.Who]

You are so blinded by the word socialism by the propaganda of the rich on the right mixed withe stupidity of the masses on the right

Socialism is a political philosophy that seeks to look after everyone

In essence it is what Jesus Christ preached when he said love thy neighbour as thyself

Part of becoming more civilised as a nation is moving away from the laws of the jungle which is pretty much what right politics is towards a more caring society that seeks in some way at least to ensure that everyone has basic things like medical care, food, accommodation etc.

The vast majority of people get this and are happy that their fellow man is looked after when in trouble

Except for the fuckwits on the right who are too stupid to get this.

They are largely christians who argue against socialism which makes them politically stupid and raging hypocrites into the bargain.

The right paint the poor as feckless and lazy so that the idiots who support them will support policies that are vicious towards them

But most people are in poverty through no fault of their own

They are born into it largely and find escaping from it really hard

One third of the US working population earns $9 per hour or less. Millions have lost their jobs

These people are not choosing poverty. They are doing the best they can in a racist and unfair society.

They can't afford health insurance and so many of you dickheads on this board would happily see them get sick and not be able to get treatment

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The words in that post are largely misinformed except for the last line which is a personal attack.

I agree.

 

[cashmcall]

You are so blinded by the word socialism by the propaganda of the rich on the right mixed withe stupidity of the masses on the right

Socialism is a political philosophy that seeks to look after everyone

In essence it is what Jesus Christ preached when he said love thy neighbour as thyself

Part of becoming more civilised as a nation is moving away from the laws of the jungle which is pretty much what right politics is towards a more caring society that seeks in some way at least to ensure that everyone has basic things like medical care, food, accommodation etc.

The vast majority of people get this and are happy that their fellow man is looked after when in trouble

Except for the fuckwits on the right who are too stupid to get this.

They are largely christians who argue against socialism which makes them politically stupid and raging hypocrites into the bargain.

The right paint the poor as feckless and lazy so that the idiots who support them will support policies that are vicious towards them

But most people are in poverty through no fault of their own

They are born into it largely and find escaping from it really hard

One third of the US working population earns $9 per hour or less. Millions have lost their jobs

These people are not choosing poverty. They are doing the best they can in a racist and unfair society.

They can't afford health insurance and so many of you dickheads on this board would happily see them get sick and not be able to get treatment

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YOU SAID..In essence it is what Jesus Christ preached when he said love thy neighbour as thyself

Part of becoming more civilised as a nation is moving away from the laws of the jungle which is pretty much what right politics is towards a more caring society that seeks in some way at least to ensure that everyone has basic things like medical care, food, accommodation etc.

OMG what a stretch...where is all this anger coming from?tia

 

[Aus22]

It is good to see some can see Iran one nuclear bomb is less a threat than Israel asenel.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Jesus did not advocate governmemt taking care of everybody he advocated you, the individual whose soul he wants save to do it.
you really need to.avoid references to religion as you sre ignorant of it.

Where did he say that then?

I've read the bible from cover to cover twice and have never seen a single reference to the quotations you attribute to Jesus Christ.

The bible does say a lot of things that are inconvenient for Americans but you tend to ignore those don't you and just focus on the bits that justify your grotesque world view

Anyway, here's waiting for your response exposing my alleged ignorance ( although you will forgive me if in the meantime I laugh my head off at your ludicrous and unsupportable assertion)

 

[Gipper]

Where did he say that then?

I've read the bible from cover to cover twice and have never seen a single reference to the quotations you attribute to Jesus Christ.

The bible does say a lot of things that are inconvenient for Americans but you tend to ignore those don't you and just focus on the bits that justify your grotesque world view

Anyway, here's waiting for your response exposing my alleged ignorance ( although you will forgive me if in the meantime I laugh my head off at your ludicrous and unsupportable assertion)

You claim to have spent the time to read the Bible cover to cover....TWICE.....and yet you HATE Christians and their religion. Strange....very strange.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Where is the contradiction in reading the bible and hating Christians?

One of the major reasons I hate Christians is precisely because I have read it

And am fully conversant with its lies, viciousness and ludicrousness

Fortunately science came along to debunk it forcing Christians into a continual retreat over it's authenticity

But you never know I might meet a talking snake who can prove that the sun does go round the earth

Somehow I doubt it though

 

[Aus22]

Where is the contradiction in reading the bible and hating Christians?

One of the major reasons I hate Christians is precisely because I have read it

And am fully conversant with its lies, viciousness and ludicrousness

Fortunately science came along to debunk it forcing Christians into a continual retreat over it's authenticity

But you never know I might meet a talking snake who can prove that the sun does go round the earth

Somehow I doubt it though

What is in the bible that makes you hate Christians?=

 

[dogtowner]

What is in the bible that makes you hate Christians?=

the hate does not come from the Bible, its there are burning from within.
you could think of as an inner hell.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

It comes from stories about mass murder, requesting a follower to commit infanticide to prove something that was already known, misogyny, slavery etc

Oh and then there is the bit about the sun going round the earth. The guy who made the universe doesn't even know the basics of heliocentricity and yet Christians call him perfect

I hate Christians because they believe that such a book is better than science and that they use it to justify their grotesque prejudices

 

[cashmcall]

It comes from stories about mass murder, requesting a follower to commit infanticide to prove something that was already known, misogyny, slavery etc

Oh and then there is the bit about the sun going round the earth. The guy who made the universe doesn't even know the basics of heliocentricity and yet Christians call him perfect

I hate Christians because they believe that such a book is better than science and that they use it to justify their grotesque prejudices

Just who am I prejudice against?