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McCain will win the honest vote but obama controls the ILLEGAL VOTES!!

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  1. CONSERVERATIVETOO

    CONSERVERATIVETOO New Member

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    Yes IF this election is HONEST or at least close to being HONEST then McCain wins in a breeze.BUT if it is CROOKED, with MILLONS of STOLEN and ILLEGAL VOTES then Obama "wins" by a "nightmare". Obama has a better then even chance since he has been planning to STEAL this election for over two years AND has TONS of MONEY FROM FOREIGN Nations who HATE AMERICA! Please beware of strangers hanging aroiund our polling places they are their to scare you.This ELECTION will be the DIRTYEST and MOST DISHONEST in our Nations history. Most Americans know how dangerous our Enemies are. THINK!! BEFORE YOU VOTE!! Do not alloww your vote to be purchased. John McCain is an AMERICAN HERO, What is Barack Hussein Obama? Noone knows, ASK YOURSELF , What DO YOU really know about OBAMA?Only what the MEDIA tells you , right? Well that is NOT the real Obama! THINK!!!! AMERICA FIRST!! REMEMBER ACORN!!! Is this the AMERICA YOU WANT???
     
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    Pandora Well-Known Member

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    I would agree if Obama wins because of Ohio I will call it fraud, but if he wins because he took a number of other states that its looking like he will take, and the youth vote really does come out for him... then he won fair and square. Its the youth vote that will push him over the top if they come out.
     
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    XCALIDEM Active Member

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    a great way of putting it....
     
  4. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    you know you are going to lose, and your just setting up excuses. lame , and sad realy.
     
  5. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    You mean.....does the Team without Karl Rove deserve to win, this time?

    You BETCHA'!!!!!

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :p
     
  6. laughinatreps

    laughinatreps New Member

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    It's funny you mention that state because we (Ohioans) all said the same thing about Bush in 04:

    ""Like many Americans, I spent the evening of the 2004 election watching the returns on television and wondering how the exit polls, which predicted an overwhelming victory for John Kerry, had gotten it so wrong. By midnight, the official tallies showed a decisive lead for George Bush — and the next day, lacking enough legal evidence to contest the results, Kerry conceded. Republicans derided anyone who expressed doubts about Bush's victory as nut cases in "tinfoil hats," while the national media, with few exceptions, did little to question the validity of the election. The Washington Post immediately dismissed allegations of fraud as "conspiracy theories1," and The New York Times declared that "there is no evidence of vote theft or errors on a large scale2."

    But despite the media blackout, indications continued to emerge that something deeply troubling had taken place in 2004. Nearly half of the 6 million American voters living abroad3 never received their ballots — or received them too late to vote4 — after the Pentagon unaccountably shut down a state-of-the-art Web site used to file overseas registrations5. A consulting firm called Sproul & Associates, which was hired by the Republican National Committee to register voters in six battleground states6, was discovered shredding Democratic registrations7. In New Mexico, which was decided by 5,988 votes8, malfunctioning machines mysteriously failed to properly register a presidential vote on more than 20,000 ballots9. Nationwide, according to the federal commission charged with implementing election reforms, as many as 1 million ballots were spoiled by faulty voting equipment — roughly one for every 100 cast10.

    The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count11.
    ut what is most anomalous about the irregularities in 2004 was their decidedly partisan bent: Almost without exception they hurt John Kerry and benefited George Bush. After carefully examining the evidence, I've become convinced that the president's party mounted a massive, coordinated campaign to subvert the will of the people in 2004. Across the country, Republican election officials and party stalwarts employed a wide range of illegal and unethical tactics to fix the election. A review of the available data reveals that in Ohio alone, at least 357,000 voters, the overwhelming majority of them Democratic, were prevented from casting ballots or did not have their votes counted in 200412 — more than enough to shift the results of an election decided by 118,601 votes13. (See Ohio's Missing Votes) In what may be the single most astounding fact from the election, one in every four Ohio citizens who registered to vote in 2004 showed up at the polls only to discover that they were not listed on the rolls, thanks to GOP efforts to stem the unprecedented flood of Democrats eager to cast ballots14. And that doesn't even take into account the troubling evidence of outright fraud, which indicates that upwards of 80,000 votes for Kerry were counted instead for Bush. That alone is a swing of more than 160,000 votes — enough to have put John Kerry in the White House15""


    Link to works cited:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen/10

    We watched news footage and stories from a conservative TV station WBNS 10TV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBNS-TV

    which is owned by the Wolfe family, who endorsed Bush for both of his elections in 2000 and 2004
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_endorsements_in_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2004
    and now is endorsing McMaverick
    http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...ath2.ART_ART_10-19-08_G4_GUBKEGH.html?sid=101

    about polling centers in the low income, high population areas with only 2 machines, yet our precinct (middle class 175k-300k neighborhood) with a dramatically lower population had 12 machines. It took me all of 9 minutes to walk in, vote, walk to my car.

    I have to laugh about how the GOP has been playing up this "steal the vote" thing. It reminds me of when Eric Mangini left the Patriots to go coach the Jets then busted out ol Bill Belechick for the cheating spygate.

    It's the same thing as the kid that hits you at school, but when you chase him down to beat his ass he runs to the teacher and says "He's gonna hit meeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!"

    This isn't just some theory anymore, this was an event the entire country witnessed first hand, and many, many people outside the US observed as well. So when you conservatives (you TOO) start throwing a pity party and whining about an "honest" election, no one is listening to your blather but your own party, no one cares about what you're worried about this time around. We've been down that road, there is a reason the DNC is running out an army of attorneys to battleground states to observe polling centers.


    http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/state/article883412.ece

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/29/AR2008092902832.html

    http://www.michigandaily.com/content/democrats-send-lawyers-monitor-polls

    Sucks when mom and dad are holding on to the cookie jar and you can't sneak into it huh?
     
  7. laughinatreps

    laughinatreps New Member

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    I have been waiting for someone to bring this up. Thank You Shaman.

    You should go read this story:

    The Return of Rove
    John McCain has surrendered his campaign to the same political fearmonger who smeared him out of the race in 2000


    You wanna talk about "Manchurian Candidate" scary? This guy is it, and now his protege, Steven Schmidt, is one of McMavericks senior strategists.

    Just a quick excerpt about their tactics:

    What American doesn't remember Rove, after 9/11, saying that liberals wanted to "offer therapy and understanding to our attackers"? What Texan doesn't recall fondly the "push poll" Rove reportedly commissioned for Bush, in which voters were asked if they would be less likely to vote for Gov. Ann Richards if they knew her staff was "dominated by lesbians"? And what veteran doesn't remember Rove impugning the patriotism of Sen. Max Cleland, a triple-amputee Vietnam vet, by running an ad showing the faces of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein fading into the wheelchair-bound Cleland's face? Suck on that, Mr. Silver Star!

    The first whiff of this kind of tactic in the current race came at the end of June, when the McCain campaign launched its new slogan "Country First," making McCain the first presidential candidate in history to make "My Opponent Is a Traitor" his rallying cry.

    All of these fairly transparent moves were beginner-level Rove tactics, designed to remove real issues from the equation and concentrate voter attention on an image of Obama as "the biggest celebrity in the world," in Schmidt's words, a superficial, self-centered member of the beautiful people who probably windsurfed with John Kerry. Rove himself provided the outlines of this strategy earlier in the year when he said about Obama, "Even if you never met him, you know this guy. He's the guy at the country club with the beautiful date, holding a martini and a cigarette who stands against the wall and makes snide comments about everyone who passes by."

    This was classic Rove. Never mind the fact that Obama, a former community organizer who has never been a member of a country club, is running against a classic Washington insider who owns no fewer than seven houses and 13 cars.

    He'll be in jail sooner or later, he won't be able to hide behind executive privilege forever....
     
  8. oceanenvy

    oceanenvy New Member

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    I think you need to take a chill pill. My Gosh, all of your posts sound so hysterical. Maybe some yoga? Red wine works too. But just a little. Don't want that mood intensifying...
     
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    CONSERVERATIVETOO New Member

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    YOU & THINK!! Just do not belong together!!
     
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    oceanenvy New Member

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    You did it. You went and had too much of that red wine. I told you "not too much!"
     
  11. Lagboltz

    Lagboltz Well-Known Member

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    In Florida dishonesty is very high on the Republican side. Repubs are making robo-calls telling people that Democrats are supposed to vote on Nov 5. They are saying if you have any police record, you will be caught and arrested at the polling site. Leaflets are being handed out at colleges that if you vote, you are going to lose scholarships if your parents live outside the state. The registrar of elections here is Rep. and opened only 3 polling places for early voting in Pinellas county. Lines are several hours long.

    Don't give us crap about Democratic dishonesty.
     
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    Absolutely, Lagboltz. It's just convenient to look away from this and pretend it's the Democrats. Please. The bottom line is that the polls themselves are saying that Obama is winning. It is the Republicans that have to resort to this in desperation.
     
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