Dr.Who
Well-Known Member
That is just not a counterpoint.Sorry, none of the above aimless drivel answers any of the questions I posed.
Assuming people have closed minds without proof makes one a practicer of discrimination.I want to just reiterate the most important point......again..... in the hope that you will open your closed mind a little.
You really do not understand the fact that most religions and their followers, using selective biblical text as a tool are responsible for the nonacceptance of homosexuals, hence you are also a bigot, how can you not be?
And you do not understand most religious people. It is true that some do this but most are every bit as accepting as the general population and some are quite a bit more accepting. To characterize the actions of a few as what most do is just dishonest or ignorant.
And yes some do use selective quotes just as you have described. I don't know how long you have been around but I have argued against the use of these passages many times. That is how I can not be.
Your long diatribe regarding the types of homosexual, promiscuity, AID's etc.etc further compounds your bigotry; you are well aware that just about all of the 'sins' (for want of a better word) you listed are equally practiced by heterosexuals.
I never called them sins and I am quite aware that many of them also apply to the hetero world. I never said that they didn't. But the are all true.
Really? NONE of their pain or distress is from anything other than the bible? You obviously don't know a wide cross section of gay people.You really cannot see that if not for the deliberate use of selective text from the bible to judge, condemn and alienate them and it is also used often as a political tool, homosexuals would not face any emotional distress, or bloody pain.
The reason why you are a bigot is, that your support of religion enables said organised religions to take this particular biblical text and use it as an excuse to demonise them, these 'terrible, mixed up, confused, childless, sad homosexuals', then after you have done this, you feel the need to pray for them because they are terrible, mixed up, confused, childless, sad homosexuals.
Feel free to quote any of my statements in which I support religious intolerance against gays. I do support compassion toward those gays that may need it. I did say about this church:
"If some of you can show that the church in question is acting like bigots then please show us. If not the purpose of prayer is usually to ask God to help people so in the absence of any evidence to the contrary that is probably what is happening."
See how I asked for evidence that this church was acting bigoted and did not make assumptions. I am open to it if it is there. See how I gave them the benefit of the doubt based on the good intentions of prayer. Which is more than I can say for you. You have judged me without really knowing anything about me save for a few posts and you have grossly misjudged me.
I do not enable this church. So far no evidence has been produced against them. How can I enable them to sin when we do not even know they are doing it.
You really, really do not see the hypocrisy, or the 'sin' in this do you?
If this church is acting in bigoted ways against gay people I will renounce it with you. Where is the evidence?
I am truly flabbergasted and frustrated by the person blindness religion all too often causes.
Me too. But on this thread the evidence that this church is doing anything other than being compassionate is lacking.