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Sanders Says His Revolution Is Just Getting Started

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Reddie, Jun 24, 2016.

  1. Reddie

    Reddie Well-Known Member

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    I like his attitude.

    Though he isn't getting the Democrats nomination he still believes there's something he can do.

    But what exactly can he do to stop Trump when almost half of his supporters say the won't be voting for Hilary?
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Could shoot him.
     
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    pwarbi Well-Known Member

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    Is it not a little late to be just getting started? If he have maybe got started about 12 months ago then it might have made a bit more of a difference.

    Clinton or Trump. That's the decision your all going to have to make, like it or not I feel, no matter what Sanders says.
     
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    Of course it's just getting started. He just called mass attention to the problem of money in politics. Democracy Spring happened because of him. This revolution will continue whether or not he becomes president and it will be written about in history books.
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    He raised lots of money. Trump spent his own. That will be remembered.
     
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    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    "Trump spent his own"? You will believe that lie till they bury you which is one of the problems of the country. Liars, cowards, and the immoral, rule.

    Unfortunately for Sanders, he had to pay for his advertisement, transportation, campaign headquarters, etc. Trump got free advertisement, paid his own corporation for office space, etc. Not hard to run on nothing when you need nothing.
     
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    I would love to see the data or references to support what you are claiming about Trumps campaign financing. Granted I would vote for Bernie Sanders over Trump in any case if they were my choices.
     
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    I'm not sure what he can do, but he made his point. He has stirred up issues that need to be raised and now his job is to help the Democrats get into the White House. That would be sensible, yet as an Independent he may still just do what he likes. I don't feel he has an allegiance with the Democrats, but surely he would prefer Hilary over Trump?
     
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    Much of the country, including the media, don't understand him. They expect him to be like every other candidate: ambitious, in it for his ego, desire for power over others, etc. Sanders is nothing like that. He is in it because he sees and understands the problems and what it will take to actually correct them. He is dedicated to the people, --not himself. As such he still wants to do as much as he can to keep pressing toward resolution of our troubles. He is selfless and the sort of person everyone should want in government.

    And BTW, those democrats who refuse to vote for Hillary are down to about 15% and Bernie will push the remainder to vote for her rather than let Trump win.
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    Too bad for him that he has no clue how to fix things.
     
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    Old_Trapper70 Well-Known Member

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    Too bad for you that your idol doesn't have a clue. As to Sanders, his wish is to return to the foundations laid by the Founders of the country. Why would you have a problem with that? Well, quite simply, because they were men with morals, and you support those who lack them.

    http://religionnews.com/2016/03/23/bernie-sanders-deeply-religious-founding-fathers-181220/

    3. Sanders’ way of thinking about society comes from our Founding Fathers.
    The founders knew from their study of history that a republic is only successful when its members are willing to take care of one another. This requires individuals to temporarily lay aside their rights and interests in order to serve their neighbor, their community and the common good.

    Sometimes the founders’ language of citizenship sounds foreign, if not dangerous, to a 21st-century culture that is drunk with liberty. For example, the Boston patriot Samuel Adams said that a citizen “owes everything to the Commonwealth.” In 1776, an unnamed Pennsylvania revolutionary proclaimed, “No man is a true republican … that will not give up his single voice to that of the public.”

    If Benjamin Rush, the Philadelphia doctor and signer of the Declaration of Independence, were alive today he would probably be labeled a socialist.

    Here is what Rush had to say about the purpose of education in a republic:

    “Let our pupil be taught that he does not belong to himself, but that he is public property. Let him be taught to love his family, but let him be taught at the same time that he must forsake and even forget them when the welfare of his country requires it.”

    Americans could “amass wealth,” Rush argued, as long as it was used to “increase his power of contributing to the wants and demands of the state.” His vision for a thriving republic would be rejected in 21st-century America, but it should remind us that citizenship requires obligation and sacrifice to the larger society. It requires exercising the golden rule.

    Bernie may not believe in God, but he certainly believes in the potential of human beings to create a more just and democratic society. And in this sense his religious beliefs are decidedly American.
     
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    True. But also most of us realize that we cannot really trust either Trump nor Hillary. But more believe we could trust Bernie. I've watched him for about 9 years and saw him weekly take phone calls from people across the nation for an hour each Friday. I do trust him! Too bad primary election voters didn't get to know him before voting.
     
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    Oh but they did and it showed. Sadly DNC had already decided who would get the nomination and it was not going to be him. Or anyone else for that matter.
     
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    Sanders is the only one who has a clue as to how to fix things.
     
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