Meh, I call it Darwinism in action. Stupid kid takes a gun, looks down the barrel and pow, he doesn't get to pollute the gene pool.
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Meh, I call it Darwinism in action. Stupid kid takes a gun, looks down the barrel and pow, he doesn't get to pollute the gene pool.
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You've never heard of pipe bombs I guess.
That's probably because you don't own an assault rifle. I do. I have a Korean era M-1 Garand. It's a 30-06 and it is the sweetest weapon I've ever handled. I can hit a coke can at 400 yards with it. It is for fun. I doubt I'll ever use it for defense, except maybe the beyonette it has on it.
The point is that its for fun and why should that be taken away from me?
A moot point. Gun control will never reduce gun violence and nobody is talking about gun control anyway, so...moot point.
So. Do you really believe that banning assault weapons would have stopped this guy?
Dr.Who
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And oral sex is probably 43 times or more likely to give you chlamydia than intercourse with a condom but no one is suggesting that you give up on the one because it is less safe than the other. It is not the right comparison.
The solution is to be safe in both situations. Guns can be locked as easily as people can practice safe sex.
Why would anyone advocate safe sex but not safe gun ownership? Why would anyone claim that guns are a problem when it is the lack of safety precautions that are the problem?
Dr.Who
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Do you ever send your kids (if you don't have kids then pretend that you do) to play at the neighbors house?
Because the more likely scenario is stupid kid takes a gun and shoots the other kid who was yelling "Hey point that the other way".
pocketfullofshells
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Dr.Who
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you can take my gun away ....just don't take my oral
Do you advocate safe oral sex as a solution to the problems that often come with it but then you don't advocate safe use of guns as a solution to the problems that come with them?
Dr.Who
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This article had some relevant parts:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/06/09/varieties_of_nothing_96898.html
A study in Britain found that, among criminals caught, convicted and sentenced, only 7 percent of these sentences involved being put behind bars. Most of what is done in the other 93 percent of the cases amounts to virtually nothing.
People convicted of burglary in Britain are seldom jailed. For this and many other crimes, they will get a stern talking to. And, if they do it again, they will get an even sterner talking to.
The idea is that burglary is "only" a property crime and the left intelligentsia in Britain show their disdain for property rights by not taking property crimes very seriously. The net result is that burglary is far more common in Britain than in the United States.
Moreover, burglars in Britain seldom bother to "case" the place as most American burglars do before breaking in. Even if someone is home, that is far less of a danger in Britain where severe gun control laws greatly reduce the dangers to burglars.
A British homeowner who held two burglars at gunpoint until the police arrived was arrested-- even though the gun he used turned out to be just a realistic-looking toy gun. The British intelligentsia take guns much more seriously than they take burglary, even when it is only a toy gun that is used to "intimidate" a burglar, as they put it.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/06/09/varieties_of_nothing_96898.html
A study in Britain found that, among criminals caught, convicted and sentenced, only 7 percent of these sentences involved being put behind bars. Most of what is done in the other 93 percent of the cases amounts to virtually nothing.
People convicted of burglary in Britain are seldom jailed. For this and many other crimes, they will get a stern talking to. And, if they do it again, they will get an even sterner talking to.
The idea is that burglary is "only" a property crime and the left intelligentsia in Britain show their disdain for property rights by not taking property crimes very seriously. The net result is that burglary is far more common in Britain than in the United States.
Moreover, burglars in Britain seldom bother to "case" the place as most American burglars do before breaking in. Even if someone is home, that is far less of a danger in Britain where severe gun control laws greatly reduce the dangers to burglars.
A British homeowner who held two burglars at gunpoint until the police arrived was arrested-- even though the gun he used turned out to be just a realistic-looking toy gun. The British intelligentsia take guns much more seriously than they take burglary, even when it is only a toy gun that is used to "intimidate" a burglar, as they put it.
I'm not familiar with that particular weapon but I've owned an American M1 Carbine, Thompson 45 and an AR15. Have over the years sold them all off but still own a couple handguns... Beretta 380 and a Dan Wesson 357 magnum pistol pack with all the interchangeable barrels.
The issue on assault rifles to me is strictly a matter of capacity. I don't care what a weapon looks like. And any reasonable caliber size really doesn't matter much either because there are hunting applications with almost all ammo sizes.
But there's no reason to have a weapon holding a 30 or 60 shot magazine or like my Thompson had some ungodly capacity drum clip.
I know when I had mine there was some stupid law that I could legally own a 30 or 60 round clip... it just wasn't "legal" to have it in the gun. That obviously doesn't work.
The correct way I see to solve this problem for both sides is to require street legal assault weapons to have a unique style clip that doesn't interchange with the military version. And then outlaw the manufacture of anything more than say a 15 round clip for the street version.
It's all about capacity to me not what the gun looks like. Any gun can kill someone but if someone does clock out with a gun I want them to be bogged down carrying a lot of different weapons and/or have to reload them a lot. Hopefully it gives some people more time to get away and it would help give law enforcement the upper hand.
There's a compromise that could be made here. If not for everything already out there certainly for new sales.
pocketfullofshells
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or dumb kid points gun at other kid , boom, smart kid dead , dumb kid alive still.
pocketfullofshells
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I must have missed where I was against safe use of guns.....
See that's what bothers me. If you try and point out anything that could be done to make gun ownership safer... or want to limit any type of gun purchase... you're completely out of it and don't know a thing about guns.
I was a big personal gun collector at one time. But I never believed they weren't a very dangerous thing to have around. Anyone that claims guns are inherently safe are not being honest.
That doesn't mean that someone shouldn't be able to buy a gun for hunting or personal protection... but it sure doesn't make someone that sees their danger a crazy gun hater!
I for instance sold all my guns off except for my two favorite handguns when I started having kids. And the handguns I didn't want at the house so I took them out and locked them up in the gun cabinet at my grandparents farm.
But if you don't think someone should own a machine gun or maybe a bazooka... you're just anti-gun.
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pocketfullofshells
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See that's what bothers me. If you try and point out anything that could be done to make gun ownership safer... or want to limit any type of gun purchase... you're completely out of it and don't know a thing about guns.
I was a big personal gun collector at one time. But I never believed they weren't a very dangerous thing to have around. Anyone that claims guns are inherently safe are not being honest.
That doesn't mean that someone shouldn't be able to buy a gun for hunting or personal protection... but it sure doesn't make someone that sees their danger a crazy gun hater!
I for instance sold all my guns off except for my two favorite handguns when I started having kids. And the handguns I didn't want at the house so I took them out and locked them up in the gun cabinet at my grandparents farm.
But if you don't think someone should own a machine gun or maybe a bazooka... you're just anti-gun.
I never even said ban assult rifles..thus why I am lost as to the point lol
