Abortion

[Dante the Marxist]

3) Remove the embryo and deliver it to Conservative Ideologues so that they can provide it with a viable alternative environment in which to live.

That is called brainwashing, wich is frowned upon in most places.

 

[Dante the Marxist]

I suggest that you read all of Palerider's posts on the subject (admittedly there are many of them) before you make any more posts on the subject. This was all address before, and it will make you look less ignorant to the readers who have read his responses to posts like yours. You are just repeating statements that he countered.

Note: I am pro-abortion.

Hey, I caught that. You called me ignorant when you said"less ignorant".

 

[samsara15]

I've seen PR's attempts on another forum, if it's the same PR. I've countered his 'points' all before. I posted a lengthy post a few pages back that addressed this issue in some depth.

Well done.

 

[dahermit]

In light of the fact that fundamentalists, Conservatives, et. al., believe that abortion is the killing of a human being and Liberals disagree, wishing to continue the practice for the benefit of society by not raising unwanted children, I propose a third option.

If a surgical technique could be perfected that would remove an embryo without killing it, and then frozen (and stored indefinitely), as are many embryos are done currently that are fertilized in vitro, the embryo is thus not "murdered" as described by the right, but is never raised in a negative environment as should satisfy the left.

What say you on the Right? Would that satisfy legal and moral (religious) reservations?

 

[Pandora]

In light of the fact that fundamentalists, Conservatives, et. al., believe that abortion is the killing of a human being and Liberals disagree, wishing to continue the practice for the benefit of society by not raising unwanted children, I propose a third option.

If a surgical technique could be perfected that would remove an embryo without killing it, and then frozen (and stored indefinitely), as are many embryos are done currently that are fertilized in vitro, the embryo is thus not "murdered" as described by the right, but is never raised in a negative environment as should satisfy the left.

What say you on the Right? Would that satisfy legal and moral (religious) reservations?

Hey, that is a pretty dang good idea. Would that baby be able to be transplanted into a woman who wanted to adopt? If it could, that would probably work out great.

if the woman who does not want her child is willing to do this, it might work


Great idea !!!!

 

[Dante the Marxist]

In light of the fact that fundamentalists, Conservatives, et. al., believe that abortion is the killing of a human being and Liberals disagree, wishing to continue the practice for the benefit of society by not raising unwanted children, I propose a third option.

If a surgical technique could be perfected that would remove an embryo without killing it, and then frozen (and stored indefinitely), as are many embryos are done currently that are fertilized in vitro, the embryo is thus not "murdered" as described by the right, but is never raised in a negative environment as should satisfy the left.

What say you on the Right? Would that satisfy legal and moral (religious) reservations?

That is a great idea! And that way, lesbian couples can have children too.

 

[dahermit]

In light of the fact that fundamentalists, Conservatives, et. al., believe that abortion is the killing of a human being and Liberals disagree, wishing to continue the practice for the benefit of society by not raising unwanted children, I propose a third option.

If a surgical technique could be perfected that would remove an embryo without killing it, and then frozen (and stored indefinitely), as are many embryos are done currently that are fertilized in vitro, the embryo is thus not "murdered" as described by the right, but is never raised in a negative environment as should satisfy the left.

What say you on the Right? Would that satisfy legal and moral (religious) reservations?

The "Right to Life" people seem to have fallen uncharacteristically quiet on this post. I wonder why. Maybe it does not have the element of punishing the woman for nine months and childbirth for having sex?

 

[Dr.Who]

The "Right to Life" people seem to have fallen uncharacteristically quiet on this post. I wonder why. Maybe it does not have the element of punishing the woman for nine months and childbirth for having sex?

I have seen both sides agree on this so I don't know where you get that from.

 

[Dante the Marxist]

I have seen both sides agree on this so I don't know where you get that from.

Thats good. Its just that steriotype that right wingers are violent and unagreeable, wich I, for one, know is not true[unless your talking about Glenn Beck and Limbaugh].

 

[Zylstra]

Does Beck count as a Right-Winger ala Limbaugh? Beck seems more like a libertarian who happens to vote GOP

 

[Dante the Marxist]

Does Beck count as a Right-Winger ala Limbaugh? Beck seems more like a libertarian who happens to vote GOP

He seems pro-Iraq, pro capitalist, pro religious to me. Besides, I consider liberals to be on the right anyhow.

 

[dahermit]

I have seen both sides agree on this so I don't know where you get that from.

There was some posts about how "nice" it would be for those wishing to adopt. But no one seem to go on record as to whether or not "suck it out and freeze it", it would be an acceptable alternative to abortion.

I wonder the the Catholic Church would say. Not allowed because having sex with the purpose other than to beget children is sinful?

As birth control, it would be safer than the pill (strokes), and IUD's (infection), more likely to be used than a condom (most men complain that condoms reduce sensation significantly), more convenient than diaphragms. And would only need to be used if a fetus had attached to the uterus.

 

[Zylstra]

He seems pro-Iraq, pro capitalist, pro religious to me. Besides, I consider liberals to be on the right anyhow.

That seem,s contradictory

how are you defining the right wing?

 

[Dante the Marxist]

That seem,s contradictory

how are you defining the right wing?

For the current state of things[capitalism, or, the current government.].

 

[Zylstra]

If you're going to use the definition of conservatism to define 'right wing', how on earth can you use that same definition for liberals?!

Liberalism =/= reactionary conservatism

Two very different things. Conservative shave opposed liberal principles from the very beginning of this nation.