Cain Wins!

[Pandora]

until they ran and you found out more about them, then decided you wanted more...

Interesting that you like Santorum, though have said you don't care about the gay issue...yet thats the issue he is known for...as for a chance in hell, well if there is a hell...I hope he finds a place there....so you know what I think of him I mean just look at his mindless DADT rant...sex should have no place in the military...so gays should be banned? Ok so strait people should as well if they come out as strait? If it has no place, then why is it he picks on one group to go after saying it does matter...Insert blacks into his speech and run it in WWII or Korea..and it would fit in just perfect...I don't know why they don't grow a pair and just come out and say "you know what I just don't like them at all and thats my only argument against them..I hate them" Stop pretending you have some other reason, and stop pretending you some kind of good Christian who is not judging them on grounds they them self often could not live up to.

I like his views on abortion. He is the strongest supporter of the right to life. Michelle is a supporter too but not as much as he is. I like his views on lots of things. I don't see him nearly as homophobic as you do but that is not really an issue for me one way or the other. I was fine with DADT I don't care if people are homosexual but I also don't want to know about it. I think having DADT was better than saying you cant join because we "think" you might be homosexual. I think there are going to be problems with this issue in the future but i suppose they will work it out, or maybe they wont and I wont care either way .

 

[pocketfullofshells]

I like his views on abortion. He is the strongest supporter of the right to life. Michelle is a supporter too but not as much as he is. I like his views on lots of things. I don't see him nearly as homophobic as you do but that is not really an issue for me one way or the other. I was fine with DADT I don't care if people are homosexual but I also don't want to know about it. I think having DADT was better than saying you cant join because we "think" you might be homosexual. I think there are going to be problems with this issue in the future but i suppose they will work it out, or maybe they wont and I wont care either way .

you do know that Don't ask don't tell was not realy don't ask...it was don't let us suspect or find out...did not matter how they found out, you could tell your neighbor and they could tell them..and that was it...Also I take it you do not believe in equal rights then?

and they all say they would ban abortion...is one of them going to say they would ban it more then the other? ( of course none of them can actually ban it. but still)

and Right to life is a very hypocritical thing to call the party cheering for the deaths of others at debates. Maybe if it said the right to life for people who have money and are not convicted of a crime ( even if they did not do it)

 

[Pandora]

you do know that Don't ask don't tell was not realy don't ask...it was don't let us suspect or find out...did not matter how they found out, you could tell your neighbor and they could tell them..and that was it...Also I take it you do not believe in equal rights then?

and they all say they would ban abortion...is one of them going to say they would ban it more then the other? ( of course none of them can actually ban it. but still)

and Right to life is a very hypocritical thing to call the party cheering for the deaths of others at debates. Maybe if it said the right to life for people who have money and are not convicted of a crime ( even if they did not do it)

None of them said they would ban it that I know of, just wouldn't allow it to be federally funded in any way but most of them will cave and trade abortion issues for tax cuts or something.

Most republicans do believe in the death penalty, I don't but most do. They were not cheering death they were cheering that they were proud perry stood up for the death penalty for people who killed innocent children and such.

Santorum would probably fight to have people like tiller the baby killer arrested and put to death. I don't like the death penalty but somehow I wouldn't go sleepless if tiller the baby killer fried in a chair. So I guess I am ok with the death penalty when they off anyone who hurts children. But even then I would rather lock them in a 3 ft by 5 ft cell and never let them out for any reason, just shove food under a door.

And no, I didn't know what you said about DADT, I just figured it was don't ask and don't tell

I know one thing I would not dress and undress or shower with a woman I knew was homosexual anymore than I would undress or shower with a man.

If I didn't know a woman was a homosexual I wouldn't think about it one way or another and it would just be like high school, no one thought that way. But knowing would change things for me. I would feel like I was dressing or showering in front of a man. Sexually it is the same thing

 

[pocketfullofshells]

None of them said they would ban it that I know of, just wouldn't allow it to be federally funded in any way but most of them will cave and trade abortion issues for tax cuts or something.

Most republicans do believe in the death penalty, I don't but most do. They were not cheering death they were cheering that they were proud perry stood up for the death penalty for people who killed innocent children and such.

Santorum would probably fight to have people like tiller the baby killer arrested and put to death. I don't like the death penalty but somehow I wouldn't go sleepless if tiller the baby killer fried in a chair. So I guess I am ok with the death penalty when they off anyone who hurts children. But even then I would rather lock them in a 3 ft by 5 ft cell and never let them out for any reason, just shove food under a door.

And no, I didn't know what you said about DADT, I just figured it was don't ask and don't tell

I know one thing I would not dress and undress or shower with a woman I knew was homosexual anymore than I would undress or shower with a man.

If I didn't know a woman was a homosexual I wouldn't think about it one way or another and it would just be like high school, no one thought that way. But knowing would change things for me. I would feel like I was dressing or showering in front of a man. Sexually it is the same thing

guys what with or without , there where gays in the showers...ooo and they are all checking you out! You know people use not not want to have to go to the same bathroom as blacks...they did not want to have to eat with them, sleep in same place as them...you know what? tough...don't join then. I don't need the nation guarded my some guy who is scared the guy next to him may look at his junk. there are lots of things you have to do in the military that you may not like normal...for example...normal I would not want to take a crap in a hole with a bunch of guys around in the hole as well..but you may have to...you may not want to serve with a woman..tough to bad, you get to..can't take it...go home...

Your for equal rights or your not...just because someone makes you feel uncomfortable does not mean they should lose there rights...

You don't take away the rights of others because your not comfortable with them.

as for Abortion, they would all do the same thing if they could...however the courts say you can't so its a moot point...all would try to get someone on the bench to overturn Row v wade though...of course Reagan thought he did, but then his judge ruled against him.

 

[Pandora]

guys what with or without , there where gays in the showers...ooo and they are all checking you out! You know people use not not want to have to go to the same bathroom as blacks...they did not want to have to eat with them, sleep in same place as them...you know what? tough...don't join then. I don't need the nation guarded my some guy who is scared the guy next to him may look at his junk. there are lots of things you have to do in the military that you may not like normal...for example...normal I would not want to take a crap in a hole with a bunch of guys around in the hole as well..but you may have to...you may not want to serve with a woman..tough to bad, you get to..can't take it...go home...

Your for equal rights or your not...just because someone makes you feel uncomfortable does not mean they should lose there rights...

You don't take away the rights of others because your not comfortable with them.

That is just silly, eating at a table with men women kids blacks whites and purple polka dotted people even dogs and cats is all the same

women do not dress or shower in front of or with men for a reason and its not because they think every man wants them or will rape them its just not comfortable to dress or shower in front of people who look at your gender differently than you do. men would love dressing with women, they do not have the same modesty women have so this is just not something you probably can understand IMO

 

[Pandora]

and you wouldn't have to take anyones rights away, just set up a shower/dressing area for modest people? not everyone would have this problem, way less men than women

bunking would be fine, everyone has their own bed. I think men and women homosexual and straight could all have a bunk in the same building without issue but for bathrooms, dressing and showering... some people would just not be comfortable doing it in front of others. So make a private area for that

 

[Openmind]

None of them said they would ban it that I know of, just wouldn't allow it to be federally funded in any way but most of them will cave and trade abortion issues for tax cuts or something.

Most republicans do believe in the death penalty, I don't but most do. They were not cheering death they were cheering that they were proud perry stood up for the death penalty for people who killed innocent children and such.

Santorum would probably fight to have people like tiller the baby killer arrested and put to death. I don't like the death penalty but somehow I wouldn't go sleepless if tiller the baby killer fried in a chair. So I guess I am ok with the death penalty when they off anyone who hurts children. But even then I would rather lock them in a 3 ft by 5 ft cell and never let them out for any reason, just shove food under a door.

And no, I didn't know what you said about DADT, I just figured it was don't ask and don't tell

I know one thing I would not dress and undress or shower with a woman I knew was homosexual anymore than I would undress or shower with a man.

If I didn't know a woman was a homosexual I wouldn't think about it one way or another and it would just be like high school, no one thought that way. But knowing would change things for me. I would feel like I was dressing or showering in front of a man. Sexually it is the same thing

You sound so innocent sometime! You are apparently an heterosexual women. Does that mean that you get turned on by EVERY man that walks by you? does that mean that you can't wait to see your daughter swim instructor in his speedo?

I don't think so.

Well, believe me, lesbian women are no more attracted to every woman, even pretty ones, than you are to all men! Actually, they are probably LESS likely to look at your boobs, because they have seen so many,in much more "pleasant" and "intimate" circumstances, and they are not so likely to compare their boobs to yours!

But, if you are a prude, or if YOU are used to observing women's body when you find yourself in a shoer or a dressing room with them, I understand your concern! But I can assure you that all women, neither straight women or gay women, are not like that!

Relax!

 

[pocketfullofshells]

and you wouldn't have to take anyones rights away, just set up a shower/dressing area for modest people? not everyone would have this problem, way less men than women

bunking would be fine, everyone has their own bed. I think men and women homosexual and straight could all have a bunk in the same building without issue but for bathrooms, dressing and showering... some people would just not be comfortable doing it in front of others. So make a private area for that

so your for segregation now? Coloreds can have there own food mess and bunks ...then its ok. And if your modest...tough, welcome to the Military. Many strait people seem to have this idea that gays are just waiting to check them out naked...odds are they don't care...And the with saying don't say anything...all your doing is saying its ok for gays to shower with you, as long as your ignorant of it...There where gays in your school shower to, and they are at the gym..should gays be segregated as school as well and at gyms? You know I feel uncomfy around Christians..can we split them off to them to? and I don't trust jews...or Muslims...

or is Segregation only ok for groups you don't care for or feel odd around?

 

[Pandora]

You sound so innocent sometime! You are apparently an heterosexual women. Does that mean that you get turned on by EVERY man that walks by you? does that mean that you can't wait to see your daughter swim instructor in his speedo?

I don't think so.

Well, believe me, lesbian women are no more attracted to every woman, even pretty ones, than you are to all men! Actually, they are probably LESS likely to look at your boobs, because they have seen so many,in much more "pleasant" and "intimate" circumstances, and they are not so likely to compare their boobs to yours!

But, if you are a prude, or if YOU are used to observing women's body when you find yourself in a shoer or a dressing room with them, I understand your concern! But I can assure you that all women, neither straight women or gay women, are not like that!

Relax!

I dont dress or undress in front of men even if I was assured they had no interest in me. It's not because I think they are going to look, I said that in previous posts.

Women in general would not dress or shower in front of a man even if they knew he was not sexually interested in him. More often than not women are more modest than men are.

and I am relaxed, I don't have to deal with this.. only the poor suckers who serve in obamas military have to deal with this

 

[Pandora]

so your for segregation now? Coloreds can have there own food mess and bunks ...then its ok. And if your modest...tough, welcome to the Military. Many strait people seem to have this idea that gays are just waiting to check them out naked...odds are they don't care...And the with saying don't say anything...all your doing is saying its ok for gays to shower with you, as long as your ignorant of it...There where gays in your school shower to, and they are at the gym..should gays be segregated as school as well and at gyms? You know I feel uncomfy around Christians..can we split them off to them to? and I don't trust jews...or Muslims...

or is Segregation only ok for groups you don't care for or feel odd around?

No I am not for segregation, I am for the military providing a place to shower and dress privately for who ever is uncomfortable doing it in a mixed group

why is it that the traditionalist always has to compromise? creating a space for someone to dress/shower privately can not be that complicated.

 

[Alias]

http://www.breitbart.tv/florida-str...-morgan-freeman-over-tea-party-racism-charge/

 

[Gipper]

http://www.breitbart.tv/florida-str...-morgan-freeman-over-tea-party-racism-charge/

That is very good.

But, we all know that many libs are incapable of accepting the truth because it blows up their preconceived EMOTIONS. They are easily duped by their leaders.

As Cain said, Morgan Freedman never attended a TP meeting, but he knows their racist....now that is liberal think! Has anyone in the media asked Freedman or any of the other kooky libs what proof they have that the TP is racist?

The new Liberal definition for racist is: Anyone who disagrees with Obama and his socialist agenda.

 

[Openmind]

I dont dress or undress in front of men even if I was assured they had no interest in me. It's not because I think they are going to look, I said that in previous posts.

Women in general would not dress or shower in front of a man even if they knew he was not sexually interested in him. More often than not women are more modest than men are.

and I am relaxed, I don't have to deal with this.. only the poor suckers who serve in obamas military have to deal with this

As a woman, you probably are not made up quite as a man either and, much more tha "sexual orientation,". Those physical differences are in my opinion, the Eason for that additional modesty we experience in " vulnerable" attire in front of the opposite sex, not the opposite sexual orientation.

 

[Pandora]

That is very good.

But, we all know that many libs are incapable of accepting the truth because it blows up their preconceived EMOTIONS. They are easily duped by their leaders.

As Cain said, Morgan Freedman never attended a TP meeting, but he knows their racist....now that is liberal think! Has anyone in the media asked Freedman or any of the other kooky libs what proof they have that the TP is racist?

The new Liberal definition for racist is: Anyone who disagrees with Obama and his socialist agenda.

The proof for them is that the TP is against obama
So that is code For Racist. It doesn't matter if they are against white people with the same political thinking too. Anti Obama = racist to them period.

 

[Openmind]

The proof for them is that the TP is against obama
So that is code For Racist. It doesn't matter if they are against white people with the same political thinking too. Anti Obama = racist to them period.

So many generalizations again!

So many assumptions!

Yet, enough statements have been made in this forum that contradict this tea party assumption that if one is not being into the tea party philosophy, one must think (wrongly, of course!) that EVERYONE in the tea party is racist!

Wrong again!