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Global Warming and Belief in God

Discussion in 'Polls' started by GenSeneca, Aug 20, 2008.

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I believe in:

  1. Global Warming and God

    9 vote(s)
    37.5%
  2. Global Warming but not God

    4 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. God but not Global Warming

    10 vote(s)
    41.7%
  4. Nether Global Warming nor God

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  1. Dawkinsrocks

    Dawkinsrocks Well-Known Member

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    Can't you just process a few thoughts in your own head and come up with a conclusion?

    If ecstasy was a significant threat to life and if maybe a million people take it each weekend around the world, why isn't there carnage in the clubs?

    The numbers speak for themselves.

    If logic doesn't help try googling it.

    I am sure you will get there
     
  2. PLC1

    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    We know that tobacco is a significant threat to life, and that hundreds of millions of people worldwide are addicted to it. We also know that the effects aren't manifest until the addict has been smoking for years.

    You say that you know that a million people take ecstasy, and maybe they do. I don't know. I'm not a part of the nightclub drug scene.

    It's your argument, and I'm not even saying that you're wrong. What I'm saying is that you haven't proven it, and that googling it is not my responsibility. I support my arguments. You have done nothing to support yours.

    Statements like this one:
    tell me that you don't have a real argument at all, at least not one you can support. Usually, personal attacks like the above indicate that the poster is totally devoid of logic and fact, and simply posting an unsupported opinion.
     
  3. Dawkinsrocks

    Dawkinsrocks Well-Known Member

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    Ecstasy has been around for over 20 years now.

    Next
     
  4. PLC1

    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    And? Can you substantiate the claim that people who have taken Ecstasy for 20 years have suffered no ill effects?

    And while your at it, try to back this one up:

    That's quite a claim. I would have thought that the "anti drug science", if it is biased at all, would be so because of government funding and the war on drugs.

    But, that might not be right either. The government tends to base decisions on politics rather than on science anyway.

    And even the "drinks industry", meaning, I suppose, the makers of alcoholic beverages, acknowledge that overuse of their products can cause some serious problems.
     
  5. Dawkinsrocks

    Dawkinsrocks Well-Known Member

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    The answers are so obvious it is too tiresome to write them down

    Sorry
     
  6. PLC1

    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Meaning, of course, that you have no way of supporting your arguments, or engaging in a real debate.

    Here's the equation:

    VO = O x SF

    Where VO is the value of an opinion, O is the opinion, and SF is the number of supporting facts. Anything times zero is zero, of course, and that's the value of any unsupported opinions including yours.
     
  7. Dawkinsrocks

    Dawkinsrocks Well-Known Member

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    Ok, if you can't use a working knowledge of the world with some elementary logic try this.

    Google number per annum of deaths from taking ecstasy. Then google number of deaths per annum from eating peanuts.

    Then compare the two numbers.

    If you need further help (that I am qualified to give) come back to me.
     
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    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry, kid, I'm not doing your homework for you.
     
  9. Dawkinsrocks

    Dawkinsrocks Well-Known Member

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    It is not my homework

    Most rational people know that if ecstasy was a real big killer it would be in the news.

    It isn't
     
  10. Shotgun314159

    Shotgun314159 Well-Known Member

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    No one can prove God.
    I can prove 2+4=4.

    I don't have to "believe" in science as a religion.
    I can prove it.

    Anyone that says sciene is a religion is a religious moron.
    Trying to pull the rest if in your shiet "beliefs".

    Tis CRAPOLA.
     
  11. GenSeneca

    GenSeneca Well-Known Member

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    And they just keep coming...
     
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    Are you prepared to DIS-prove God?

    And you sling it just about as badly as any I've ever seen.
     
  13. Dawkinsrocks

    Dawkinsrocks Well-Known Member

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    That tired old nonesense about disproving god.

    You can't prove that little green men didn't make the universe so I gues by FF's 'logic' he must believe that they did
     
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    I can prove 2+2=4

    There is no "Belief System" required.
    Science is not a Religion.
    Anyone saying.

    Science is the lefts Religion.
    Is clueless.

    Science is about facts.
    God is about beliefs.

    Global Warming is Real.
    Man is contributing to it.
    What you believe, is irrevelent.

    Tis all about facts.
    Sorry.
     
  15. PLC1

    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    All of the above is correct, except for the first statement.

    2 + 2 may = 4, or it may not.

    If you mix 2 cups of water and 2 cups of dirt, you don't get four cups of mud.

    Nothing is absolute, not ever.
     
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