Voter Fraud


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Which party is worse when it comes to Voter Fraud, Republicans or Democrats?

This is a particularly important issue since we have seen so many close elections, 2000, 2004, 2006 all had very close elections with accusations of fraud on both sides.

While I invite opinions on the issue, I would certainly appreciate any examples of Voter Fraud you can find. We can add them all up, compare them to party legislation, and see which party actually has a record for supporting Voter Fraud.

I have chosen to highlight one particular organization because they have been participating in Voter Fraud activity since they began, ACORN:

On April 2, 2008, eight workers for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, pleaded guilty to federal election fraud for submitting registration cards for the 2006 election using false addresses, made-up names, and forged signatures.

On March 13, 2008, Philadelphia election officials accused ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, of submitting voter-registration paperwork without sufficient data, with discrepancies, or for people already registered. Election commissioners are asking the District Attorney’s Office to investigate ACORN’s registration efforts prior to the Pennsylvania presidential primary next month.

On February 26, 2008, a detailed report on election irregularities in Milwaukee for the 2004 general election was released. Among the irregularities cited are:

4,600 more votes cast and counted than voters recorded as having cast ballots;
18 felons sworn in as deputy registrars for the 2004 election, eight of whom listed ACORN as their sponsoring organization;
1,305 votes by “on-site” registrants who provided registration forms lacking sufficient information to be entered into a permanent database, including 48 voters who provided no name and 854 voters who provided no address;
Numerous instances of ballots cast by ineligible “not in city” registrants;
At least 16 cases of campaign workers from out-of-state who voted while employed by a group or campaign attempting to influence the election;
Four deceased persons recorded as having voted; and
At least three instances of votes cast by ineligible felons.

ACORN is at the center of a voter fraud scandal in Washington state. One county plans to purge 230 ACORN-provided names from voter rolls in early February 2008 as the county completes an investigation of what one news outlet calls “the worst voter-registration fraud in Washington history.”

Information courtesy of RSC

ACORN About Page:
Voter participation: Since 2004, ACORN has helped more than 1.7 million low- and moderate-income and minority citizens apply to register to vote.

I wonder if they count their fraudulent votes in that number.... There is a reason the Democrats oppose Voter ID and this is it, they support Fraud as long as it gets them elected. Some Democrats even delude themselves into believing Republicans win election through fraud so this is justified as the only way to fight back. Problem is... Republicans support Voter ID which would eliminate the majority of PROVEN voter fraud cases and hurt Democrats.

Don't take my word for it though, lets compare legislation:

Rep. Susan Davis (D-CA) introduced the Universal Right to Vote by Mail Act (H.R. 281), which would prohibit a state from imposing additional conditions or requirements on the eligibility of an individual to cast a vote in federal elections by mail, except to the extent that it imposes a deadline for requesting the ballot and returning it to the appropriate state or local election official.

Just a deadline, no need for them to prove they are who they claim to be, or even a citizen for that matter.

Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-OH) introduced the Count Every Vote Act (H.R. 1381), which would implement a variety of federal mandates on election systems, including making it easier to cast provisional ballots, making it harder to purge voter rolls, and making it easier for ex-felons to vote.

Make every Fraudulent vote count.... Democrats must be proud.

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) introduced the Make Provisional Ballots Count Act (H.R. 5628), which would allow same-day voter re-registration at polling places on the date of election for individuals otherwise permitted to cast provisional ballots and require the counting of provisional ballots cast by individuals determined to be registered to vote in the state or the congressional district.

Just show up, who can be bothered with registering to vote? Like its important to prove your who you say you are, much less a citizen with the right to vote.

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) introduced the Voter Access Protection Act (H.R. 4026), which would prohibit election officials from requiring an individual to provide a photo identification as a condition for voting in a federal election.

Of course.... Having voters provide their ID would eliminate millions of phantom Democrat voters. We can't have that.

Ok, so thats just a few of the Democrats in action... Lets look at what the Republicans are presenting:

Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA) introduced the Federal Election Integrity Act (H.R. 481), which would prohibit an election official from providing a federal election ballot to an individual who desires to vote in person unless the individual presents to the official: a government-issued, current, and valid photo identification; or (beginning in 2010) a government-issued, current, and valid photo ID for which the individual was required to provide proof of U.S. citizenship as a condition for issuance of the ID. An individual who does not present such an ID would be permitted to cast a provisional ballot, but such individual would have to present the required ID within 48 hours after casting the provisional ballot to have that vote verified.

ID to vote??? Thats totally unacceptable.... How will all those ACORN votes count?

Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL) introduced the Noncitizen Voting Prevention Act (H.R. 5695), which would require applications for voter registration with respect to federal office to include a statement regarding the deportability of aliens making false claims of U.S. citizenship and require the posting at polling places of notices that it is a violation of federal law for an individual who is not a U.S. citizen to cast a ballot in an election for federal office.

Totally un-American, not wanting illegal aliens to vote...

Republicans are pretty well all on the same page, they want Voter ID and many have proposed varying legislation to that end. Democrats of course want their phantom votes so it has been taken all the way to the Supreme Court:

On April 28, 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a lower-court ruling on the Crawford v. Marion County Election Board case (Indiana’s photo ID requirement) that the burden the photo ID requirement places on voters is offset by the benefit to voters at large and to electoral integrity of reducing the risk of vote fraud. Thus, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of Indiana’s photo ID law.

Voter ID was found to be Constitutional. According to a Rasmussen poll: "80% of voters believe everyone should be required to show photo identification to vote. Only 13% disagree."

Who's the Party of Voter Fraud? It begins with a large D...
You mean like this:

Why is a clean state suddenly beset by dirty elections?

Saturday, October 26, 2002 12:01 a.m.

The progressive citizens of Wisconsin have reason to worry that Chicago-style vote-buying is creeping north from Illinois. The NBC affiliate in Milwaukee has just filmed Democratic campaign workers handing out small amounts of money and free food to residents at a home for the mentally ill in Kenosha after which the patients were shepherded into a separate room and given absentee ballots. One of the Democratic Party workers fled when she saw the NBC camera. The local district attorney is investigating.

What DID cause Pat Buchanan to get all those votes in liberal Palm Beach County during the 2000 elections? Confused old grannies or botched Democrat chicanery?

Let's start off this blog with my most famous observation - the smoking gun that proves the Democrats were guilty of vote fraud in Florida during the 2000 elections.

Not that this was anything out of the ordinary for Democrats. Frankly, I suspect they engaged in vote fraud that year in California, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Washington and Wisconsin. And that's just the ones I can make a good case for. There could have been others too.

Among the most blatant was the urban Philadelphia precinct that saw a 112% voter turnout. Yes, and they still argue most people are too turned off to vote. If they can get EVERY registered voter in a precinct to vote PLUS an additional twelve percent, I'd say either they've cured the problem of voter apathy or the Democrats pulled a fast one. Pennsylvania, by the way, was the state that in 2000 saw Democrat Al Gore win the state's electoral votes for president by a narrow margin while Republican Rick Santorum, one of the most conservative members of the U.S. Senate, won re-election easily. Something smells here...and it isn't Scranton.

N.Y. Daily News Unearths 'Stunning' Democrat Vote Fraud

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - About 46,000 people, most of them Democrats, are illegally registered to vote in New York City and in Florida, the liberal New York Daily News reported today.
Thanks fed, good stuff!

Guess I shouldn't be surprised that Democrat Voters don't care to actually talk about what their representatives in Washington are actually doing there... Certainly nobody defending their policies - here or in my other thread.

With 80% of voters wanting Voter ID, there have to be SOME Democrat voters that are against their representatives doing everything in their power to prevent Voter ID from becoming a national requirement. Alas, I don't expect to hear from any of them...

With all the complaints about wanting to "stick to the issues" and avoid the "slash and burn, politics as usual", Democrats and their voters seem to spend all their time with character assassinations, and other unsavory tactics, meant to avoid actually discussing the specifics of policy and issues.

They cannot defend the indefensible positions of the people they continually vote into office, so they just attack the other side with opinions backed by assertions and wrapped in humor.


Democrat voter drive investigated for fraud
Louisiana authorities say clerks flooded with fake registrations

Posted: June 12, 2008
10:50 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Louisiana's top election official has launched an investigation into a voter registration drive by the Washington-based Voting is Power organization, which is sponsored by the Muslim American Society and was hired by Democrats, after registrars were "flooded" with fake forms, including a couple for a gentleman named George W. Bush.

Secretary of State Jay Dardenne said this week he already has met with Voting Is Power, which has a stated goal of signing up millions of Muslims to vote in U.S. elections, and the discussions were cordial.

He said he's seeking information about the company's methodology and information on why so many voter registration applications turned out to be incomplete, duplicates, or just plain fraudulent.

According to a report from the Associated Press, the Washington-based VIP was hired by national Democrats to register up to 70,000 new voters before this fall's election.

When Republicans win elections, liberals are quick to cry fraud. But when actual fraud is found, they are just as quick to deny it, if Democrats are the ones who benefit.

• California’s Secretary of State Debra Bowen, a Democrat, reported that state-approved hackers had been “able to bypass physical and software security in every [voting] machine they tested,” although she admitted that the hackers had access to internal security information and source codes that vote thieves wouldn’t normally have.

• The Florida secretary of state’s office reported it had found “legally sufficient” evidence that some 60 people in Palm Beach County had committed voter fraud by voting both there and in New York state. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement has launched a formal probe. In 2004, New York’s Daily News found that 46,000 people were illegally registered to vote in both New York and Florida.

• Prosecutors in Hoboken, N.J., last week announced they are investigating a vagrant who was part of a group of voters observed to be acting suspiciously outside a polling place in an election last month. After he signed a voting register in the name of another man, he was confronted by a campaign worker and fled the scene. He later admitted to cops that he had been paid $10 to vote.

• Last week the U.S. Department of Justice recommended that an outside party be appointed to oversee Democratic primary elections in Noxubee County, Miss. In June, federal district judge Tom Lee found that Ike Brown, the Democratic political boss of Noxubee, had paid notaries public to visit voters and illegally mark their absentee ballots, imported illegal candidates to run for county office and manipulated the registration rolls.

But the most interesting news came out of Seattle, where on Thursday local prosecutors indicted seven workers for Acorn, a union-backed activist group that last year registered more than 540,000 low-income and minority voters nationwide and deployed more than 4,000 get-out-the-vote workers. The Acorn defendants stand accused of submitting phony forms in what Secretary of State Sam Reed says is the “worst case of voter-registration fraud in the history” of the state.

[A] careful review of the facts shows that in 2004, paid Democrat operatives were far more involved in voter intimidation and suppression efforts than their Republican counterparts. Examples include:
* Paid Democrat operatives charged with slashing tires of 25 Republican get-out-the-vote vans in Milwaukee on the morning of Election Day.

* Misleading telephone calls made by Democrat operatives targeting Republican voters in Ohio with the wrong date for the election and faulty polling place information.

* Intimidating and deceiving mailings and telephone calls paid for by the DNC threatening Republican volunteers in Florida with legal action.

* Union-coordinated intimidation and violence campaign targeting Republican campaign offices and volunteers resulting in a broken arm for a GOP volunteer in Florida.

Vote fraud and voter registration fraud were significant problems in at least a dozen states around the county. Vote fraud is a reality in America that occurred not only in large battleground states like Wisconsin but in places like Alabama and Kentucky. The record indicates that in 2004, voter registration fraud was mainly the work of so-called “nonpartisan” groups such as Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) and NAACP National Voter Fund. Examples include:

* Joint task force in Wisconsin found “clear evidence of fraud in the Nov. 2 election in Milwaukee,” including more than 200 felon voters, more than 100 double voters and thousands more ballots cast than voters recorded as having voted in the city.

* NAACP National Voter Fund worker in Ohio paid crack cocaine in exchange for a large number of fraudulent voter registration cards in names of Dick Tracy, Mary Poppins and other fictional characters.

* Former ACORN worker said there was “a lot of fraud committed” by group in Florida, as ACORN workers submitted thousands of fraudulent registrations in a dozen states across the country, resulting in a statewide investigation of the group in Florida and multiple indictments and convictions of ACORN/Project Vote workers for voter registration fraud in several states.
Two names Katherine Harris and Ken Blackwell. However all's well that ends well. Bush certainly stealing the election in 2000 and possibly in 2004 has led to a Democratic Congress that should remain in place for years. Anybody hear of karma?

Brad Menfil is not my real name. I work for the RNC. I fear reprisals if I'm found out.

The truth about this election is this: Florida and Ohio had to go for Bush in order for him to "win" the election. In reality he lost both states. In fact, he did not even win the popular vote. He lost the national popular vote by at least 1,750,000. This shows you the scale of the fraud.

The exit polls were not wrong. Kerry was the clear winner, but victory was snatched from him.

Florida first. The 200,000+ margin of victory for Bush made this state uncontestable. Everybody assumes that even with some fraud, Kerry could never have made up the difference in a recount. But Kerry actually won by about 750,000 votes. The numbers were changed by a computer program (in both electronic and scan-tron voting systems) called "KerryLite." "KerryLite" of course is not actual name of the program. The actual name is 11-5-18-18 etc. For additional encryption, the numbers were jumbled but I'm not sure in which order. The numbers replace the letters of the alphabet. For example, K is the eleventh letter of the alphabet.

So the if-then statement goes something like this: "if total true Kerry>total true Bush, Bush x 1.04x (.04 is a random number)(total true Kerry), total true Bush". The second part of the equation takes the total number of votes cast and subtracts the new Bush total, subtracts the third party totals and leaves the rest for Kerry.

Sometimes the program would also reduce third party votes and award them to Bush. And even where Bush legitimately won, he was still awarded additional votes. The big Democratic counties (Broward for example) went to Kerry because it had to appear that everything was on the up and up. It's interesting to see this unfold. Does anybody wonder why the Republican counties were mostly counted after the Democratic counties? You should wonder, and also know that this was no accident. The Bush team had to make up the votes as the night went on.

In Ohio, computer voting fraud, vote tossing and voter suppression were the main methods. Vote tossing was simply the removal of Kerry votes and some third party votes. In some areas, the Bush vs. Kerry votes were absurd. Nine to one, eight to two.

Voter suppression took the form of making voters stand in four hour long lines. This of course took place in Democratic areas. The simplest thing to do was to have too few voting machines. Sometimes that's all it takes. People eventually lose patience and leave without casting a vote.

In other states such as New Mexico, Nevada, Iowa and New Hampshire, Kerry's leads evaporated very quickly once the polls were shut down. Kerry only won New Hampshire, but barely. As it turned out, the lead was 6% for Kerry in that state and not enough fraudulent activity took place to flip the state to Bush.
Two names Katherine Harris and Ken Blackwell. However all's well that ends well. Bush certainly stealing the election in 2000 and possibly in 2004 has led to a Democratic Congress that should remain in place for years. Anybody hear of karma?

Editor's Note:

A word of caution.

While the following text presents evidence which is not directly verifiable, Global Research, nonetheless, took the decision to bring this controversial text to the attention of our readers. It is worth noting that the author's identity is not known.

The relevance of this text, should be assessed in relation to the large body of documentation and research already conducted on electoral fraud in America.

Typical "evidence" from your side.
Really, well let's look at the 2000 election, shall we?
Count the Ways Democrat Operatives Have Tried to Steal the 2000 Presidential Election

Numerous methods were used by Democrat Party operatives to steal the 2000 Presidential Election from Republican George W. Bush and the American people. The following is a documentary of these Democrat election fraud and election theft efforts.

The following is a partial list of Democrat election fraud methods used in the 2000 Presidential Election:

A Democrat Party operative waited until a few days before the election, and then planted a story with a news reporter about a 24 year old Driving Under the Influence (alcohol DUI) arrest of George W. Bush

Widespread illegal voting by illegal aliens throughout the south-western United States, due in large part to Democrat organization programs and operations to encourage and facilitate this illegal activity

Illegal voting by non-citizen Haitian immigrants in Florida
Illegal voting by convicted felons in Florida and elsewhere
Vote buying
Vote swapping
Voting multiple times
Post-election ballot tampering

Voter News Service effectively suppressed voter turnout for Republicans and other Bush supporters by falsely and prematurely calling Al Gore the election winner in Florida and in the entire election, an hours before the polls were closed in the heavily Republican Florida panhandle, as well as the central and western states. Bush was ahead in all of the polls by at least one percent nationwide going into the election, yet he lost the popular vote. The Democrats then tried to accuse a cousin of Bush of influencing a later call of the election for Bush, without evidence, and even though the polls were already closed. [This item needs more specific information for the last sentence - will get and re-write as necessary]

Democrat Party fabrication of a "confusing ballot" controversy in Palm Beach County, Florida, which was used as the basis for demanding a county-wide re-vote. This re-vote would have allowed Democrats who voted for Green Party candidate Ralph Nader to switch their vote to Democrat candidate Al Gore.

The Florida Supreme Court intervened in the Democrat Party lawsuit involving Florida's statutory county election return reporting deadline, which is unusual because the courts usually avoid becoming involved in election matters, especially after an election is over, and especially when the case does not involve election fraud. In addition, the Florida Supreme Court took an even more extraordinary action by bringing this case to itself. Normally, a case would be brought to a higher level court by the plaintiff or defendant appealing the case to the higher court. It is extremely rare for any court to bring a case to itself. In this case, the Florida Supreme Court ignored the Florida Statutes and Constitution, and violated the separation of powers by usurping the power and authority of the legislative and executive branches of state government. The Florida State Supreme Court came up with an implausible, irrational interpretation of Sections 102.111 and 102.112 that the Secretary of State shall not ignore late county election returns and that the deadline shall be extended to an arbitrary date picked by the court. It is absolutely certain that the Democrat appointees on the Florida Supreme Court acted in a highly partisan manner to steal the election for Democrat Al Gore.

Miscounting of ballots by Democrat officials in several Florida counties

Lawsuits and liberal judicial activist judges violating the Constitution and the law

Democrat lawsuits to exclude more than 200,000 legal and legitimate ballots in Florida's Seminole and Martin Counties, where a majority voted for Republican George Bush

Democrat lawyers challenging overseas absentee ballots from American military men and women

Democrat lawsuit challenging Dick Cheney's legal residency

Democrat efforts to pressure, threaten, intimidate, and otherwise improperly induce Electoral College electors who were elected to vote for Bush to switch their vote and instead vote for Gore

Democrat operatives in the media and elsewhere trying to steal the legitimacy of the election victor, Republican George W. Bush, after efforts to steal the election were unsuccessful

Manipulative "manual vote recounts" by news media and other political organizations of the so-called "under-vote" in specially selected Florida counties

The Democrat Party officials and their political allies in the news media claimed that Al Gore should be president because he won the popular vote, and they and they pressured the Electoral College electors who were elected to vote for Bush to switch their vote and instead vote for Gore, and used this issue to try to steal George Bush's legitimacy

Manipulative, biased news media reports featuring Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and other Democrat operatives calling for public protests claiming that George Bush and the Republicans stole the election; failure to report competently and accurately on the election lawsuits and court opinions
Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-OH) introduced the Count Every Vote Act (H.R. 1381), which would implement a variety of federal mandates on election systems, including making it easier to cast provisional ballots, making it harder to purge voter rolls, and making it easier for ex-felons to vote.

Make every Fraudulent vote count.... Democrats must be proud.

Do you know what Provisinal means? It means no more saying they cant vote and they have no chance to prove they can...those votes are counted only later if needed and they show they can vote...

Also about the Whole Florida Felons thing...Do you guys actually know the law? I bet not because in fact it was Republicans who purged Felons from the voter reg....those found guilty in other states,,, not in Florida, who never lost the right to vote...the courts even told Florida they have to count them...and they still did not

Republicans yell that dems get people who they think should not be able to vote to vote..

Dems yell that Republicans top legit voters from voting........
This is unbelievable stuff. Isn't it amazing that people who claim to be the most moral, are the least legal...