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Re: Polls show Obama's numbers in down trend!!!

Yeah, Obama's in terrible shape...I would be surprised if the national polls don't tighten somewhat, if history is any guide they will. Anyway, I've got some numbers too:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

Obama-286

McCain-154

Toss up-94

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Maps/Oct16.html

Obama-352

McCain-171

Tied-15

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/on-road-marietta-ohio.html

Obama-353.9

McCain-184.1

Popular vote

Obama-52.1%

McCain-46%

Win percentage

Obama-95.1%

McCain-4.9%


You best hope that trend of yours continues steadily for the next 2 1/2 weeks along with a miracle or two thrown in.

Your Messiah should've had this wrapped up already. He has the media and money in his pocket....
Don't count out the 18 million cracks on the ceiling who have decided to say they're voting for Obama, just to mess with the polls and who will change their minds on election day!!! :D
 
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Re: Polls show Obama's numbers in down trend!!!

Your Messiah should've had this wrapped up already. He has the media and money in his pocket....
Don't count out the 18 million cracks on the ceiling who have decided to say they're voting for Obama, just to mess with the polls and who will change their minds on election day!!! :D

Unlike you, the overwhelming majority of women that voted for Hilliary care about their reproductive rights and those of their sisters.. and have come home.

The suggestion that a few disgruntled PUMAs have influenced the polls is not only quite a leap but it's straight up absurd.
 
Re: Polls show Obama's numbers in down trend!!!

Unlike you, the overwhelming majority of women that voted for Hilliary care about their reproductive rights and those of their sisters.. and have come home.

The suggestion that a few disgruntled PUMAs have influenced the polls is not only quite a leap but it's straight up absurd.

you'd be surprised how many people are still pissed off about Pelosi going with Obama.....:eek: They're at the point that they just don't care. Besides, Roe Vs Wade has always been a scare tactic that the dems use.... Did Bush of the previous Rep. Presidents change it? NO!
 
Re: Polls show Obama's numbers in down trend!!!

Unlike you, the overwhelming majority of women that voted for Hilliary care about their reproductive rights and those of their sisters.. and have come home.

The suggestion that a few disgruntled PUMAs have influenced the polls is not only quite a leap but it's straight up absurd.

I posted this in a previous thread:

http://www.puma08.com/2008/10/16/sarah-palin-hangs-out-with-pumas/

Pumas raised 8 million for Sarah Palin this week in 1 night. You'd think that they want Obama for Pres? Pleeeeeeeeeeeaze!!!! :mad:
 
Re: Polls show Obama's numbers in down trend!!!

you'd be surprised how many people are still pissed off about Pelosi going with Obama.....:eek: They're at the point that they just don't care. Besides, Roe Vs Wade has always been a scare tactic that the dems use.... Did Bush of the previous Rep. Presidents change it? NO!

The Supreme Court is thought to be one vote away from having the votes to overturn Roe v Wade. Justice Stevens, a member of the liberal bloc is 88 years old... another member of the bloc, Justice Ginsburg is 75. McCain has made it quite clear he would nominate those that favor overturning Roe.

The fact that you care so little for a woman's right to choose is just another revelation in a growing resume which states beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're not a Democrat.
 
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Re: Polls show Obama's numbers in down trend!!!

I posted this in a previous thread:

http://www.puma08.com/2008/10/16/sarah-palin-hangs-out-with-pumas/

Pumas raised 8 million for Sarah Palin this week in 1 night. You'd think that they want Obama for Pres? Pleeeeeeeeeeeaze!!!! :mad:
From your link:

Ms. Palin, along with her husband, Todd, mingled and posed for pictures with the group of about 20, before appearing at the larger finance event, which McCain campaign officials said was the last time Mr. McCain would personally appear at a fund-raiser before the election. It was also the first time the pair had appeared together for donors.

More than1,000 people paid $1,000 each for tickets to the main fund-raiser. Nearly 250 people who contributed $25,000 got dinner beforehand with Mr. McCain.

I don't exactly understand the math which leads you to believe that a few people at a fundraiser translates into 18 million... Wishful thinking appears to be your main impetus .

BTW, the candidate that you "claim" you once supported has headlined more than 50 events and has raised more than $10 million so far for Obama. She will be campaigning for him in Ohio.

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/31005169.html
 
Re: Polls show Obama's numbers in down trend!!!

The Supreme Court is thought to be one vote away from having the votes to overturn Roe v Wade. Justice Stevens, a member of the liberal bloc is 88 years old... another member of the bloc, Justice Ginsburg is 75. McCain has made it quite clear he would nominate those that favor overturning Roe.

The fact that you care so little for a woman's right to choose is just another revelation in a growing resume which states beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're not a Democrat.

Well, dude... I'm also Catholic! So what does that tell you? Joe Biden was condemmed by the Cardinal of Pennsylvania for his beliefs on abortion... I'm sure he's not very happy with that...

My personal belief is that if it's rape case, then sure. That person should have the right to choose...

BTW: tHANKS for the link you put about Ohio. I like then comments on that site and it also guides me to more underground PUMA sites and the plans that they have to have a voice in this election.... :D
 
Re: Polls show Obama's numbers in down trend!!!

Well, dude... I'm also Catholic! So what does that tell you? Joe Biden was condemmed by the Cardinal of Pennsylvania for his beliefs on abortion... I'm sure he's not very happy with that...

My personal belief is that if it's rape case, then sure. That person should have the right to choose...

BTW: tHANKS for the link you put about Ohio. I like then comments on that site and it also guides me to more underground PUMA sites and the plans that they have to have a voice in this election.... :D

I'm Catholic myself, though admittedly I don't regularly attend mass. Anyway Catholics are changing, no longer do they listen to the Vatican without asking a few questions. Check out these numbers:

The poll claims about 60 percent of younger self-identified Catholics say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 44 percent reportedly support same-sex marriage, a number which rises to 64 percent when religious liberty protections are emphasized.

Catholics aged 35 and older are split between McCain and Obama 46 percent to 44 percent, but Obama leads McCain among younger Catholics 55 to 40 percent.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=14008
 
SEE Liberals are saying - " Those serving in IRAQ favor OBAMA", I FIND the Libs were correct - The problem is they were asking the INSURGENTS not the U.S. Forces!! Usual liberal trick! OBAMA is BAD for AMERICA!! THINK!
 
Senator Obama continues to dominate the polls and has actually turned several Red states to either "toss up" or leaning Blue! Americans are done with the lies and false smears of the REPUBLICAN'T Party!:)

POLLS TAKEN JUST BEFORE THE POWELL ENDORSEMENT BOUNCE:

RCP Average 10/13 - 10/19 -- -- 49.8 44.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Obama +5.8
CNN/Opinion Research 10/17 - 10/19 LV 3.5 51 46 >>>>>>>>>>Obama +5
ABC News/Wash Post 10/16 - 10/19 1336 LV 2.5 53 44 >>>>>>Obama +9
Rasmussen Reports 10/17 - 10/19 3000 LV 2.0 50 46 >>>>>>>>Obama +4
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby 10/17 - 10/19 1211 LV 2.9 50 44 >>>>>Obama +6
Hotline/FD 10/17 - 10/19 789 LV 3.5 47 42 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Obama +5
Gallup (Traditional)* 10/17 - 10/19 2340 LV 2.0 50 45 >>>>>>>>Obama +5
Gallup (Expanded)* 10/17 - 10/19 2271 LV 2.0 52 43 >>>>>>>>>Obama +9
IBD/TIPP 10/15 - 10/19 1086 LV 3.0 47 41 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Obama +6
GWU/Battleground 10/13 - 10/19 1000 LV 3.5 49 45 >>>>>>>>>>Obama +4
 
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AP reports it very close: 44 to 43

AP presidential poll: Race tightens in final weeks
By LIZ SIDOTI – 3 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The presidential race tightened after the final debate, with John McCain gaining among whites and people earning less than $50,000, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll that shows McCain and Barack Obama essentially running even among likely voters in the election homestretch.

The poll, which found Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent, supports what some Republicans and Democrats privately have said in recent days: that the race narrowed after the third debate as GOP-leaning voters drifted home to their party and McCain's "Joe the plumber" analogy struck a chord.

Three weeks ago, an AP-GfK survey found that Obama had surged to a seven-point lead over McCain, lifted by voters who thought the Democrat was better suited to lead the nation through its sudden economic crisis.

The contest is still volatile, and the split among voters is apparent less than two weeks before Election Day.

"I trust McCain more, and I do feel that he has more experience in government than Obama. I don't think Obama has been around long enough," said Angela Decker, 44, of La Porte, Ind.

But Karen Judd, 58, of Middleton, Wis., said, "Obama certainly has sufficient qualifications." She said any positive feelings about McCain evaporated with "the outright lying" in TV ads and his choice of running mate Sarah Palin, who "doesn't have the correct skills."

The new AP-GfK head-to-head result is a departure from some, but not all, recent national polls.

Obama and McCain were essentially tied among likely voters in the latest George Washington University Battleground Poll, conducted by Republican strategist Ed Goeas and Democratic pollster Celinda Lake. In other surveys focusing on likely voters, a Washington Post-ABC News poll and a Wall Street Journal-NBC News survey have Obama up by 11 points, and a poll by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center has him leading by 14.

Polls are snapshots of highly fluid campaigns. In this case, there is a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points; that means Obama could be ahead by as many as 8 points or down by as many as 6. There are many reasons why polls differ, including methods of estimating likely voters and the wording of questions.

Charles Franklin, a University of Wisconsin political science professor and polling authority, said variation between polls occurs, in part, because pollsters interview random samples of people.

"If they all agree, somebody would be doing something terribly wrong," he said of polls. But he also said that surveys generally fall within a few points of each other, adding, "When you get much beyond that, there's something to explain."

The AP-GfK survey included interviews with a nationally representative random sample totaling 1,101 adults, including 931 registered voters and 800 adults deemed likely to vote. For the entire sample, the survey showed Obama ahead 47 percent to 37 percent. He was up by five points among all registered voters, including the likely voters.

A significant number of the interviews were conducted by dialing a randomly selected sample of cell phone numbers, and thus this poll had a chance to reach voters who were excluded from some other polls.

It was taken over five days from Thursday through Monday, starting the night after the candidates' final debate and ending the day after former Secretary of State Colin Powell broke with the Republican Party to endorse Obama.

McCain's strong showing is partly attributable to his strong debate performance; Thursday was his best night of the survey. Obama's best night was Sunday, hours after the Powell announcement, and the full impact of that endorsement may not have been captured in any surveys yet. Future polling could show whether either of those was merely a support "bounce" or something more lasting.

During their final debate, a feisty McCain repeatedly forced Obama to defend his record, comments and associations. He also used the story of a voter whom the Democrat had met in Ohio, "Joe the Plumber," to argue that Obama's tax plan would be bad for working class voters.

"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody," Obama told the man with the last name of Wurzelbacher, who had asked Obama whether his plan to increase taxes on those earning more than $250,000 a year would impede his ability to buy the plumbing company where he works.

On Wednesday, McCain's campaign unveiled a new TV ad that features that Obama quote, and shows different people saying: "I'm Joe the Plumber." A man asks: "Obama wants my sweat to pay for his trillion dollars in new spending?"

Since McCain has seized on that line of argument, he has picked up support among white, married people and non-college educated whites, the poll shows, while widening his advantage among white men. Black voters still overwhelmingly support Obama.

The Republican also has improved his rating for handling the economy and the financial crisis. Nearly half of likely voters think their taxes will rise under an Obama administration compared with a third who say McCain would raise their taxes.

Since the last AP-GfK survey in late September, McCain also has:

_Posted big gains among likely voters earning under $50,000 a year; he now trails Obama by just 4 percentage points compared with 26 earlier.

_Surged among rural voters; he has an 18-point advantage, up from 4.

_Doubled his advantage among whites who haven't finished college and now leads by 20 points. McCain and Obama are running about even among white college graduates, no change from earlier.

_Made modest gains among whites of both genders, now leading by 22 points among white men and by 7 among white women.

_Improved slightly among whites who are married, now with a 24-point lead.

_Narrowed a gap among unmarried whites, though he still trails by 8 points.

McCain has cut into Obama's advantage on the questions of whom voters trust to handle the economy and the financial crisis. On both, the Democrat now leads by just 6 points, compared with 15 in the previous survey.

Obama still has a larger advantage on other economic measures, with 44 percent saying they think the economy will have improved a year from now if he is elected compared with 34 percent for McCain.

Intensity has increased among McCain's supporters.

A month ago, Obama had more strong supporters than McCain did. Now, the number of excited supporters is about even.

Eight of 10 Democrats are supporting Obama, while nine in 10 Republicans are backing McCain. Independents are about evenly split.

Some 24 percent of likely voters were deemed still persuadable, meaning they were either undecided or said they might switch candidates. Those up-for-grabs voters came about equally from the three categories: undecideds, McCain supporters and Obama backers.

Said John Ormesher, 67, of Dandridge, Tenn.: "I've got respect for them but that's the extent of it. I don't have a whole lot of affinity toward either one of them. They're both part of the same political mess."

AP Director of Surveys Trevor Tompson, AP News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius and AP writer Alan Fram contributed to this report.
 
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