Buh-BYE, Gitmo!!!!

[Mr. Shaman]

Yes I am a big fan of human rights. The human rights of the people in Iraq, the unborn, people in china who are abused, Tibet, Darfur and a thousand other places

...Unless, of course, they're wearing orange-jumpsuits, which signifies they've obviously done something wrong, right?

 

[Libsmasher]

Yes I am a big fan of human rights. The human rights of the people in Iraq, the unborn, people in china who are abused, Tibet, Darfur and a thousand other places

ANNNNNNDDDDDDDD - libfarts never met a dictator they didn't like. Remember how endless Hollywierd libs and Jimmy Carter have made pilgrimages to havana to get photographed tongue-kissing Castro? Also down to nicaragua to kiss the butts of the sandanistas when they had a reign of terror in operation? And in the present day, Hugo Chavez. They refer to the UN, basically a conclave of dictators, as if it were the Holy See of their religion, which actually, it is, their religion being statism. And they DARE to lecture ANYONE about human rights???!!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

ANNNNNNDDDDDDDD - libfarts never met a dictator they didn't like.

Yeah....right....it's Libs that've always relied on Dictators, to sell their agenda; world-wide.

Maybe.....by the time you're old-enough to vote....you'll be better-informed.

 

[BigRob]

Yeah....right....it's Libs that've always relied on Dictators, to sell their agenda; world-wide.

Maybe.....by the time you're old-enough to vote....you'll be better-informed.

I have no problem supporting a dictator if it is the best interests of the United States at the moment.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

You mean like when the US supported Saddam Hussein?

Or Pinnochet maybe?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I have no problem supporting a dictator if it is the best interests of the United States at the moment.

....And, that's the difference, between "conservatives" & Progressives. Progressives have more self-respect. We don't see The Bottom Line being so-important as to excuse brutalizing people we can't (even) see. That's why you folks are such big fans of an all-volunteer military. You always have someone (else) to do all of your dirty-work, for you; pretty-much the description of an average, ordinary, garden-variety Coward.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Armchair warriors is another name for them.

Neanderthals would be another

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Armchair warriors is another name for them.

Neanderthals would be another

You forgot the most-obvious one....

CHICKENHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!​

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Only if hawks in this case is a euphemism for ****s

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

That is s.h.i.t.s

 

[Libsmasher]

Yeah....right....it's Libs that've always relied on Dictators, to sell their agenda; world-wide.

Maybe.....by the time you're old-enough to vote....you'll be better-informed.

This is the standard dumb-version narrative for lower-intelligence bots about the cold war period, when in the course of the world-wide titanic struggle of the US almost alone against the soviet union, the US had to make temporary alliances with dictators in the cause of opposing the MUCH more dangerous threat of the soviets. As DEMOCRAT Harry Truman once said of such a dictator, "he's a sonofa*****, but he's OUR sonofa*****".

Libs, on the other hand LOVVVVVVVVVVE commie dictators, just for being commie dictators, especially ones like Castro that oppose the US. They love to go down and schmooze with Castro, while advocates of freedom, artists, and intellectuals rot for decades in his prisons.

 

[Libsmasher]

Armchair warriors is another name for them.

Neanderthals would be another

Shaman is merely uninformed on this issue - you on the other hand have honed the ability to make profoundly stupid assertions to a fine art.

 

[BigRob]

....And, that's the difference, between "conservatives" & Progressives. Progressives have more self-respect. We don't see The Bottom Line being so-important as to excuse brutalizing people we can't (even) see. That's why you folks are such big fans of an all-volunteer military. You always have someone (else) to do all of your dirty-work, for you; pretty-much the description of an average, ordinary, garden-variety Coward.

The Army typically votes Republican... better think again about just who you think is serving in it.

As for the rest of your post, yes, our national strategic interests and national security are more important than the feelings or "human rights" of someone in another country.

Maybe during the Cold War you wanted the Western Hemisphere to go communist, but people who wanted to preserve some form of freedom certainly did not. This is why people like Carter never make good foreign policy decisions, because they are unable to see the big picture, and focus solely on human rights issues. Perhaps we need to invade China under your system? At the cost of nuclear war and millions of lives, I would say that is worth, you seem to think so.

Russia will be next? How about the "human rights" of the hundreds of thousands butchered by Saddam under his reign? Is it only bad when the United States is somehow involved? Sudan next? Is Congo coming? Under your system we have to go ahead and invade the entire world pretty much.

You can pretend you care about human rights all you want, and Obama can too, but when it comes down to it, it is just paying lip service to the ideal, knowing we are not going to intervene. Obviously even your own party agrees with my assessment, remember Rwanda? Somalia?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

....the US had to make temporary alliances with dictators.....

Only a "conservative" would try to sell the benefits of aligning-with-Dictators.

"D'Aubuisson, a former cashiered Army Major with ties to Jesse Helms and the U.S. right, studied unconventional warfare in the U.S. and Taiwan. He once told European joumalists, "You Germans were very intelligent. You realized that the Jews were responsible for the spread of communism, so you killed them."

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The Army typically votes Republican... better think again about just who you think is serving in it.

As for the rest of your post, yes, our national strategic interests and national security are more important than the feelings or "human rights" of someone in another country.

Yeah.....I've heard...... ​

"On Nov. 19, 2005, a squad of United States Marines killed 24 apparently innocent civilians in an Iraqi town called Haditha. The dead included men, women, and children as young as two. Iraqi witnesses said the Marines were on a rampage, slaughtering people in the street and in their homes. A year after the attack, four Marines were charged with murder.

When he arrived in Haditha, Frank Wuterich had been a Marine more than seven years and was getting out. He didn’t have to go to Iraq, but he wanted to see war.....

"Rural women suspected of guerrilla sympathies were raped before execution, Kass said. Children were "thrown into burning homes. They are thrown in the air and speared with bayonets. We heard many, many stories of children being picked up by the ankles and swung against poles so their heads are destroyed." [AP, March 17, 1983]