Anti-Gay Concentration Camps

[Rick]

Gay people haven't asked for special privileges. They have asked to be treated equally.

They've demanded and received "partner benefits" from companies, just because they're shacked up with someone - heterosexuals don't get that.

This isn't as lopsided anymore, but in the late 80s and early 90s, the NIH spent about 20 times as much on AIDS as other deadly diseases with higher mortality rates, thanks to dem pressure in service to their gay constituencies.

They've demanded hate crime extra penalties, so that if you bash a gay, you get more years in prison than if you bash a heterosexual.


Special privileges is what they're all about.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

They've demanded and received "partner benefits" from companies, just because they're shacked up with someone - heterosexuals don't get that.

This isn't as lopsided anymore, but in the late 80s and early 90s, the NIH spent about 20 times as much on AIDS as other deadly diseases with higher mortality rates, thanks to dem pressure in service to their gay constituencies.

They've demanded hate crime extra penalties, so that if you bash a gay, you get more years in prison than if you bash a heterosexual.


Special privileges is what they're all about.

so stupid and typical....you B*** that they get benefits without having to be married like a heterosexual couple...while...ITS ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO GET MARRIED IF THEY WANT TO!
Its wrong to let you marry..
Its wrong to give you benefits as if you are...because your not married.
your not married...because people like me will not let you
and we are mad that you want to be held out as special...buy being able to do what we can do.
But I don't want you to be special...by having the same rights as me
because you have fake special rights to "shack up and get coverage"
and you have that right because...I don't want to give you the right to do what you really want..



And your special privileges..about hate crimes...you say that like it only applies to gays...it can be used to applies to...blacks, Indians, Muslims, and for having a disability, or many other things..

even ...if your white!
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=121355387311981300
and yes the one in the story...who was attacked...white. the ones attacking black...

 

[Rick]

so stupid and typical....you B*** that they get benefits without having to be married like a heterosexual couple...while...ITS ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO GET MARRIED IF THEY WANT TO!

Quit the crap - it's not just gays who want to get "married", it's gays who are just shacked up too.

And your special privileges..about hate crimes...you say that like it only applies to gays...it can be used to applies to...blacks, Indians, Muslims, and for having a disability, or many other things..

Right .... basically anyone who isn't a white male heterosexual gets the special privilege on that, as well as everything else.

Whites males are rarely given the privilege, eg

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/07/new.york.beating/

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Quit the crap - it's not just gays who want to get "married", it's gays who are just shacked up too.



Right .... basically anyone who isn't a white male heterosexual gets the special privilege on that, as well as everything else.

Whites males are rarely given the privilege, eg

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/07/new.york.beating/

I have this really simple idea....in fact its so simple you may even get it...no really is easy as hell....LET THEM GET MARRIED THEN!
you see..if they can legally get married...then there needs to be no rule that would give anyone "shacking up" coverage now would there?

You take away there right to marry who they want, then make them jump threw hoops in a Catch 22, to get that right...while attacking them for not doing what you keep them from doing...

And again, I guess your hard of reading...Gays are offered no special protection under any hate crimes law...outside of what many many other groups also have. Basicly your view is that all non WASP Males who are Strait....want some "Special protection" But yet you seem to single out only one group....


God , its just so tough for the poor white male christians...tear tear tear....why can't I just be a black Muslim gay woman...they get all the breaks!

 

[Rick]

I have this really simple idea....in fact its so simple you may even get it...no really is easy as hell....LET THEM GET MARRIED THEN!
you see..if they can legally get married...then there needs to be no rule that would give anyone "shacking up" coverage now would there?

Hey, about THIS simple idea: They can't get "married", and they can't rip off companies for being shacked up, either.

And again, I guess your hard of reading...Gays are offered no special protection under any hate crimes law

Bullshiit.

Gays being beat up was the original motivation for hate crime legislation, then of course it was expanded to the usual privileged groups - anyone who isn't a white male heterosexual.

Gay bashes hetero, no hate crime.

Hetero bashes gay, hate crime.

The issue is moot, since hate crimes laws are unconstitutional (lib judge rulings to the contrary notwithstanding) because they give someone an extra penalty because of their opinion, in contravention of the First Amendment.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Hey, about THIS simple idea: They can't get "married", and they can't rip off companies for being shacked up, either.



Bullshiit.

Gays being beat up was the original motivation for hate crime legislation, then of course it was expanded to the usual privileged groups - anyone who isn't a white male heterosexual.

Gay bashes hetero, no hate crime.

Hetero bashes gay, hate crime.

The issue is moot, since hate crimes laws are unconstitutional (lib judge rulings to the contrary notwithstanding) because they give someone an extra penalty because of their opinion, in contravention of the First Amendment.

1968 with the passage of federal statute, 18 U.S. 245
...covered race, color, religion, or national origin

State laws started in 1978, hate-crime statute, California's Section 190.2
Califorinia

it was not till 2009...yes only about 3 years ago...that the Mathue Sheppard act added gays to the protected groups.

So no , it actually was not in response to gays, not even close.

And its pretty pathetic you seem to think that the the amount of gay attacks on straits, somehow is even in the same ballpark in size or scope to straight attacks on Gays.

Also thanks for finally just saying you hate gays and all your bull about why they get special treatment means nothing, you just really are against gays in General.

Its very conservative of you to deny rights to people , because you don't like them..

 

[Rick]

1968 with the passage of federal statute, 18 U.S. 245
...covered race, color, religion, or national origin

State laws started in 1978, hate-crime statute, California's Section 190.2
Califorinia

it was not till 2009...yes only about 3 years ago...that the Mathue Sheppard act added gays to the protected groups.

So no , it actually was not in response to gays, not even close.

And its pretty pathetic you seem to think that the the amount of gay attacks on straits, somehow is even in the same ballpark in size or scope to straight attacks on Gays.

Also thanks for finally just saying you hate gays and all your bull about why they get special treatment means nothing, you just really are against gays in General.

Its very conservative of you to deny rights to people , because you don't like them..

Once again, hate crime legislation violates the first amendment because it penalizes SOME people for what they think, namely some white male heterosexuals - others get a pass. For that reason, it is also a violation of the equal protection clause, in that (as usual with minorities) it sets up special privileged classes. As usual, you have it ass-backwards - hate crime legislation, far from protecting "rights", strikes at key parts of the constitution.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Gay bashes hetero, no hate crime.

Hetero bashes gay, hate crime.

I love how you manage to imply that gays bash heteros just like heteros bash gays. Gay guys mostly rate a 1 on the scale of 10 when it comes to violence. Can you think of any case in which two gay guys pistol-whipped a straight guy and tied him to a fence to freeze to death?

 

[Rick]

I love how you manage to imply that gays bash heteros just like heteros bash gays. Gay guys mostly rate a 1 on the scale of 10 when it comes to violence. Can you think of any case in which two gay guys pistol-whipped a straight guy and tied him to a fence to freeze to death?

I don't care if it happens once in a million years - gays don't deserve to be a privileged class under the law. And even if bashing of heteros NEVER happened, hate crime laws would still be obnoxious and discriminatory. Illustration:

Heterosexual bashes another heterosexual - gets 6 months in prison.

Heterosexual bashes a homosexual - gets a year in prison.

 

[Pepper]

Asking for, and receiving, equal rights is not special treatment.

Pocket is correct, you can call it shacking up because same sex couples are discriminated against when it comes to marriage.

 

[Rick]

Asking for, and receiving, equal rights is not special treatment.

Special privileged treatment (extra government research funding for PC diseases, company benefits for shacking up for gays only, extra penalties for crimes against privileged groups) is not "equal rights" - it's special privileges.

 

[Pepper]

Special privileged treatment (extra government research funding for PC diseases, company benefits for shacking up for gays only, extra penalties for crimes against privileged groups) is not "equal rights" - it's special privileges.

You mean you're against AIDS research? You can't be serious. As far as partner benefits go, that is not special treatment, it is equal treatment.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Special privileged treatment (extra government research funding for PC diseases, company benefits for shacking up for gays only, extra penalties for crimes against privileged groups) is not "equal rights" - it's special privileges.

You're cute when you're angry. AIDS is hardly a PC disease when more heteros have it than gays. Gays don't get any special benefits for shacking up that are not available to heteros (try to get your facts "straight"), heteros can sign up as commited couples or be married legally or can become "common law" married (the latter two are for heteros only--now who's getting special rights?)

 

[Rick]

You're cute when you're angry.

Think so? Can we have sex then? Oops - forgot - you're lez.

AIDS is hardly a PC disease when more heteros have it than gays.

That's false - AIDS is overwhelmingly a disease of gays and druggies.

Gays don't get any special benefits for shacking up that are not available to heteros

Baloney - gays just sign up as "partners" at work - no such privilege is available to heteros.

 

[Pepper]

You just believe anything.