sex ed in schools..should abstinence be taught

[Pandora]

Nope. I didn't say that at all.

Can you explain it for me. I am not saying you said that, I am saying I got that from your post.


What kind of parent would this be to you...

A parent of a teen who had sex with her boyfriend and got pregnant and the parent said abortion/the killing of the baby is not an option. I will help you through this pregnancy and I will help you find a good family for the baby or help you if you decided to keep the baby instead of adopt and support you in any way except in helping you take the life of the baby.

Please explain what you think of a parent like this

 

[Texas_tea]

Pregnancy is not without its risks either.

If the girl comes from a close and loving family, then the parents will be involved whether the government decrees it or not.

If the government decrees what???

 

[Texas_tea]

Can you explain it for me. I am not saying you said that, I am saying I got that from your post.


What kind of parent would this be to you...

A parent of a teen who had sex with her boyfriend and got pregnant and the parent said abortion/the killing of the baby is not an option. I will help you through this pregnancy and I will help you find a good family for the baby or help you if you decided to keep the baby instead of adopt and support you in any way except in helping you take the life of the baby.

Please explain what you think of a parent like this

You know the the worst punishment the parents could give the teenager is to make them have that baby.

Just ask Obama ....

 

[Pandora]

If the government decrees what???

Exactly!!!!


This is the line that led me to think he was saying a good and loving parent would get the kid an abortion even if the government did not decree it.

Thank you for getting the line in question for me

 

[Pandora]

Pregnancy is not without its risks either.

If the girl comes from a close and loving family, then the parents will be involved whether the government decrees it or not. If she comes from a family that is likely to visit a draconian punishment for having disgraced the family, then they should not be involved. It's a matter of individual choice over government imposition.

Also this one after it...


This whole quote I do not understand unless you are advocating for abortion.

What is a draconian punishment to you?

 

[Cruella]

This one too

It's a matter of individual choice over government imposition.

Whoes choice? The brainless teenager or the parents given the responsibility of her choices?

Most teens can't get their license, join the military, marry, and make other adult decisions until age 18. Because our laws don't recognized them as being responsible enough. If their boyfriend who go them prego and he was older than 18, he could go to jail. So why should they have the choice to kill their own child?

 

[Texas_tea]

This one too


Whoes choice? The brainless teenager or the parents given the responsibility of her choices?

Most teens can't get their license, join the military, marry, and make other adult decisions until age 18. Because our laws don't recognized them as being responsible enough. If their boyfriend who go them prego and he was older than 18, he could go to jail. So why should they have the choice to kill their own child?

Why do you need an ID for everything you do except vote?

And the "choice" thing .... well, we all know how liberals feel about that ...

 

[Texas_tea]

Also this one after it...


This whole quote I do not understand unless you are advocating for abortion.

What is a draconian punishment to you?

Who's definition of "draconian?"

Clearly a political "football!"

 

[Pandora]

Who's definition of "draconian?"

Clearly a political "football!"

Ill settle for his definition I am really trying to understand his post. I know what it sounded like to me but I am happy to be corrected if it meant something other than how I took it

 

[Texas_tea]

Ill settle for his definition I am really trying to understand his post. I know what it sounded like to me but I am happy to be corrected if it meant something other than how I took it

I am not real sure how it sounded ....

This why I am still asking questions.

 

[Pandora]

I am not real sure how it sounded ....

This why I am still asking questions.

It sounded to me like he thought the only reasonable thing for a parent to do was get the kid an abortion, anything less made for bad parenting

 

[Texas_tea]

It sounded to me like he thought the only reasonable thing for a parent to do was get the kid an abortion, anything less made for bad parenting

I am not sure I got that ....

I am still asking for clarification.

What government decree?

 

[PLC1]

If the government decrees what???

Decrees that the parent must be involved.

 

[PLC1]

Can you explain it for me. I am not saying you said that, I am saying I got that from your post.


What kind of parent would this be to you...

A parent of a teen who had sex with her boyfriend and got pregnant and the parent said abortion/the killing of the baby is not an option. I will help you through this pregnancy and I will help you find a good family for the baby or help you if you decided to keep the baby instead of adopt and support you in any way except in helping you take the life of the baby.

Please explain what you think of a parent like this

That parent is exercising reasonable parental rights, and is consistent in applying his/her/their value system.

Now what about these parents:

Teen girl had sex with her boyfriend, turns up pregnant (same scenario). Teen knows that if Dad finds out, he will beat her, and then disown her.

She goes secretly to an abortion clinic, and Dad never finds out.

Or, Teen girl #2 has sex with her boyfriend, has the same sort of dad, wakes up the next morning and says, "OMG! What have I done!?!" and goes to the pharmacy for the morning after pill. Again, Dad never finds out.

Should the parents have been asked for their permission? By whom?

 

[Texas_tea]

Now what about these parents:

You are still missing the point. "Teen" girl can do whatever she wants .... as long as she is 18!

17-13 year old "teen" girls cannot make medical decisions for themselves. It is by law still the responsibility of the legal guardian.

If abuse or potential abuse is suspected, then contact the appropriate authorities and that would not be an abortion clinic!