Bush & Romney

[Gipper]

Romney is out every day talking about the economy. The media has chosen NOT to cover him, and that includes FOX News. It seems the only thing the media is interested in are biased made-up rumors.

Yes he is, but my point is why does he not talk about deficit spending? The SPENDING is the real problem, yet he has not addressed it in any meaningful way.

Has he issued a plan to cut spending? Has he outlined the government departments he will cut or eliminate? Does he have a plan to fix all the massive entitlement programs? I don't think so. He is another George Bush....he thinks cutting taxes will fix everything.

At least BO is cutting Defense (of course, he won't cut anything else), albeit not enough or in the right manner. The Right is screaming about it. Romney won't even cut defense.

We all like to think Romney will fix the economy, but if he refuses to address spending, nothing gets fixed.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Anyone--or anything--would be an improvement over Obama.
Obama is a communist.
It is there for all the world to see.
No longer a right-wing rave or accusation.
Obama seeks to destroy America.
Let me repeat this--
Obama wants to destroy and disarm America and let the rest of the world eat all the broken pieces.
When most finally realize this--will be way too late.

With Obama--it is all 100%--totally and completely RACIAL--the Race Card.
Not the Republicans--Obama and the democrats.

 

[Gipper]

What BO's second term will look like....the MSM will no doubt ignore this book...

FOOL ME TWICE
OBAMA'S SHOCKING PLANS FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS EXPOSED
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AUTHOR: AARON KLEIN AND BRENDA ELLIOTT

In Fool Me Twice, investigative journalists and New York Times bestselling authors Aaron Klein and Brenda J. Elliott reveal the detailed blueprints for President Obama’s second term in office. Just as Obama concealed the true plans for his initial term behind rhetoric of ending partisan differences and cutting the Federal deficit, Obama’s re-election theme of creating jobs conceals more than it reveals about his real agenda for a second term – the “progressive” program to complete the fundamental transformation of America during the next four years. This book is filled with stunning revelations, including second-term plans for a “New Deal”-style overhaul of the economy replete with the creation of a National Infrastructure Development Bank to oversee government control of the financial system; a massive, government-run jobs program to coincide with “paycheck fairness”; full amnesty for illegal aliens; de-funding of the U.S. military while channeling Pentagon money to “clean” energy initiatives; a new, multi-billion dollar “green” stimulus; and implementing Obamacare in measures nearly impossible to reverse. And that is just the start.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

This stuff is just terrifying.
Communo-Liberalism run amok.
With a lunatic driving the wagon.
It is simply a coup d' etat.

 

[PLC1]

Yes he is, but my point is why does he not talk about deficit spending? The SPENDING is the real problem, yet he has not addressed it in any meaningful way.

Has he issued a plan to cut spending? Has he outlined the government departments he will cut or eliminate? Does he have a plan to fix all the massive entitlement programs? I don't think so. He is another George Bush....he thinks cutting taxes will fix everything.

At least BO is cutting Defense (of course, he won't cut anything else), albeit not enough or in the right manner. The Right is screaming about it. Romney won't even cut defense.

We all like to think Romney will fix the economy, but if he refuses to address spending, nothing gets fixed.

There are two possible reasons why Romney hasn't talked about a plan to cut spending.

One reason, of course, is that he has no plan and is, in fact, Bush all over again, just as Obama is Bush magnified.
Another reason is that he knows that outlining a plan before the election would lose votes of those affected by the cuts.

Which one is the real reason? Good question. If he is elected, we'll soon find out.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Probably all is moot--unless Tea Party types who adhere to the US Constitution get more traction.

 

[Gipper]

There are two possible reasons why Romney hasn't talked about a plan to cut spending.

One reason, of course, is that he has no plan and is, in fact, Bush all over again, just as Obama is Bush magnified.
Another reason is that he knows that outlining a plan before the election would lose votes of those affected by the cuts.

Which one is the real reason? Good question. If he is elected, we'll soon find out.

We do agree. How about that?

I suspect Romney is a progressive. This is based on his governing policies while MA governor. As such, he will do little to control spending unless events force his hand.

 

[PLC1]

We do agree. How about that?

I suspect Romney is a progressive. This is based on his governing policies while MA governor. As such, he will do little to control spending unless events force his hand.

I suspect you're right about that, too.
But, Romney does have a history of bringing financially failing entities back into the black. Can he do the same for the federal government?

Maybe. After the election, if he wins, we'll find out.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

I suspect you're right about that, too.
But, Romney does have a history of bringing financially failing entities back into the black. Can he do the same for the federal government?

Maybe. After the election, if he wins, we'll find out.

The best president is really just a good and logical manager.
Presidents really do very little themselves.
It is who they surround themselves with in an administration.
Romney seems to fit this bill well--and that is a good thing.

 

[Cruella]

Yes he is, but my point is why does he not talk about deficit spending? The SPENDING is the real problem, yet he has not addressed it in any meaningful way..

yes he has....lots of times. That's my point. How are you going to know if no one reports on it? He has talked alot about entitlement programs. Of course any plan he has doesn't mean squat if he wins and we don't turn the Senate Red. Dirty Harry Reid will just sit on everything.

These are on his website plus a lot more. Somewhere he also has a 67 point plan to improve the economy, jobs etc.

http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mit...-presents-plan-turn-around-federal-government

These are on his website

Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP
Return Non-Security Discretionary Spending To Below 2008 Levels
Repeal Obamacare
Privatize Amtrak
Reduce Subsidies For The National Endowments For The Arts And Humanities, The Corporation For Public Broadcasting, And The Legal Services Corporation
Eliminate Title X Family Planning Funding
Reduce Foreign Aid
Reduce Waste And Fraud
Align Federal Employee Compensation With The Private Sector
Repeal The Davis-Bacon Act
Reduce The Federal Workforce By 10 Percent Via Attrition

 

[Cruella]

There are two possible reasons why Romney hasn't talked about a plan to cut spending.

One reason, of course, is that he has no plan and is, in fact, Bush all over again, just as Obama is Bush magnified.
Another reason is that he knows that outlining a plan before the election would lose votes of those affected by the cuts.

Which one is the real reason? Good question. If he is elected, we'll soon find out.

Where do you guys get your information? Who are you waiting to hear it from? Don't expect the media to go into anything boring like "how to fix the economy", because they would rather talk about Romney's tax returns, his pet dog and his wife's horse, and make up lies to deflect talking about the economy.

He has a very detailed "Plan". You can access the download here http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mit...ca-mitt-romneys-plan-jobs-and-economic-growth

 

[PLC1]

Where do you guys get your information? Who are you waiting to hear it from? Don't expect the media to go into anything boring like "how to fix the economy", because they would rather talk about Romney's tax returns, his pet dog and his wife's horse, and make up lies to deflect talking about the economy.

He has a very detailed "Plan". You can access the download here http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mit...ca-mitt-romneys-plan-jobs-and-economic-growth

Mitt Romney will rebuild the foundations of the American economy on the principles of free enterprise, hard work, and innovation. His plan emphasizes critical structural adjustments rather than short-term fixes.It seeks to reduce taxes, spending, regulation, and government programs. It seeks to increase trade, energy production, human capital, and labor flexibility. It relinquishes power to the states instead of claiming to have the solution to every problem.

I can almost hear the National Anthem playing in the background. Is he all for motherhood and apple pie as well?
The above is not an economic plan, but a campaign statement. A plan would have to include just how he plans to apply the principles of free enterprise, hard work etc. He simply is not going to do that, as it would cost him votes and most likely the election.

Stating clearly what you plan to support if elected, I mean getting to the nitty gritty of whose favorite programs are to be cut, is not the way to get elected.

That's not an indictment of Romney in any way. It's more of a just slightly cynical view of the process of choosing a president.

Take Ron Paul, for example. Everyone knows where he stands on any major issue.
His chances of being elected are zero.

I can recall Colin Powell on TV telling people exactly what he thought needed to be done.

Not electable.

Remember Richard Nixon and his "secret plan to end the war in Vietnam"?

He was elected. It turned out his secret plan was to bring the troops home. Now, who would have thought of that?

Unfortunately, the best candidates are often not electable.

 

[dogtowner]

yes he has....lots of times. That's my point. How are you going to know if no one reports on it? He has talked alot about entitlement programs. Of course any plan he has doesn't mean squat if he wins and we don't turn the Senate Red. Dirty Harry Reid will just sit on everything.

These are on his website plus a lot more. Somewhere he also has a 67 point plan to improve the economy, jobs etc.

http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mit...-presents-plan-turn-around-federal-government

These are on his website

Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP
Return Non-Security Discretionary Spending To Below 2008 Levels
Repeal Obamacare
Privatize Amtrak
Reduce Subsidies For The National Endowments For The Arts And Humanities, The Corporation For Public Broadcasting, And The Legal Services Corporation
Eliminate Title X Family Planning Funding
Reduce Foreign Aid
Reduce Waste And Fraud
Align Federal Employee Compensation With The Private Sector
Repeal The Davis-Bacon Act
Reduce The Federal Workforce By 10 Percent Via Attrition

saving the olympics and making it a winner was nothing short of a miracle.

 

[Cruella]

saving the olympics and making it a winner was nothing short of a miracle.

Wasn't it also right after 911 and everyone was nervous about security?

2002 Winter Olympics challenged, changed by 9/11

 

[GenSeneca]

That is so well said. Yes?

Jonah always seem to be able to hit the nail it right on the head and his book, Liberal Fascism, was the nail in the coffin of the Left.

Obama IS Bush on steroids....and yet most Americans have no idea about this....they think Obama has governed entirely different than Bush. How stupid.

We're talking about a bunch of drooling bots chanting, "Yes we can!" To them, Hope & Change was having a known Progressive do all the Progressive crap W had done for 8 years but on a larger scale. Had Bush been a Dem, they would have loved the guy.

Will Romney disavow the progressive bullshit W pulled or merely do the same thing?

Funny you should ask... I was preparing myself to vote for the LP candidate again when I came across Yaron Brook talking about Mitt Romney and it gave me a glimmer of hope, enough so that I'd now be willing to vote for Romney - IF - he chooses a strong fiscal conservative VP:

GOP Front-Runners Lack Principles

Sorry it won't let me imbed the video, you'll have to go to the ARC site and watch it there, but it's only about 2:30 and well worth watching. I think Yaron is dead on accurate about Mitt, "I don't think Mitt Romney stands for anything. I don't think he has any principles. I don't think he has any ideas." That's the same impression I have about Mitt and that's why I wasn't going to vote for him but what Yaron goes onto say makes sense, "I think he will be swayed to a large extent by opinion polls and by a Republican Senate and a Republican House... I think he will be kind of an empty shell that will be filled by the dominant voices of the time."

I can see Mitt as an empty shell, or even a dry sponge that will simply absorb the ideological principles of those closest to him and follow whatever policy proposals they make - that is why he has to pick a Conservative VP before I'd be willing to vote for him. If he goes for some milquetoast progbot, our country will end up with Bush 3.0, and I don't know that our country will survive another one.