pocketfullofshells
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you forgot the key there...none of those things matter to him, thus are not important..
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Glenn Beck compares dead teenagers to Hitler youth
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you forgot the key there...none of those things matter to him, thus are not important..
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Gipper
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This thread is a perfect example of how lefties get completely brainwashed by their media.
Beck made an off hand comment (which was accurate) which the left media takes completely out of context and then, those on the left like those in this thread, dutifully believe the lie.
You would think lefties would be smart enough to know their media LOVES to take Beck out of context to marginalize and condemn him. I guess they are not that smart...but I knew that decades ago.
Would you send your kids to a political indoctrination camp? I would never do so, but maybe liberals would.
Liberals???
Beck made an off hand comment (which was accurate) which the left media takes completely out of context and then, those on the left like those in this thread, dutifully believe the lie.
You would think lefties would be smart enough to know their media LOVES to take Beck out of context to marginalize and condemn him. I guess they are not that smart...but I knew that decades ago.
Would you send your kids to a political indoctrination camp? I would never do so, but maybe liberals would.
Liberals???
GenSeneca
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The Leftist template has been manufactured and now the automatons are dutifully repeating the talking points:
And...
These statements are based on a fabricated context, not truth.
Yet you make no attempt to correct them either.
1. What does bashing Beck accomplish? Will it bring back the dead teens? Will it lessen the suffering of those who have lost someone they loved? It seems the only thing Beck-Bashing accomplishes is giving you Leftists a rally point where your shared hatred can manifest itself in vitriolic attacks against anyone who doesn't share your hatred.
2. The divisive hatred seems to be aimed at Beck, not coming from him.
3. None of which are being discussed in this thread.
GenSeneca
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So what "decisions" are "millions of retards" going to make as a result of this statement from Beck....
They might decide NOT to send their kids to a political indoctrination camp?
Oh the humanity!
So what "decisions" are "millions of retards" going to make as a result of this statement from Beck....
They might decide NOT to send their kids to a political indoctrination camp?
Oh the humanity!
Well, not in Norway. We all know that Naziism in popular there, so of course, Beck's comments are perfectly rational, just like most of the nonsense he spews.
Here is how he defends his statement:
I suppose a gas bag knows all about gas chambers, right? Gosh, I'm so glad we have Beck to keep all those darned liberals at bay and keep us out of the gas chambers, aren't you?
GenSeneca
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Beck didn't claim Nazi'ism was popular in Norway.
Beck didn't compare the slain teenagers to the children who participated in the Hitler Youth.
Now, True or False:
The Hitler Youth was a political organization designed for the youth wing of the Nazi Party. True or False?
The summer gatherings in Utoya for the party's youth wing, the Workers' Youth League, or AUF, have been part of a vibrant political tradition in the country since at least the 1970s, and enjoyed by many of those now in government. - CNN
The AUF is a political organization designed for the youth wing of the Labor Party. - True or False?
Openmind
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What about these "youths camps?" Are they any different because they were initiated by Beck?
link: "Beck: Norway slaughter camp smacks of 'Hitler Youth'
NORWAY
July 25, 2011|By the CNN Wire Staff
"Beck said the camp "sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler Youth or whatever. Who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing."
However, politically-oriented camps are being organized in several U.S. states by chapters of the "9/12 Project" -- an organization founded by Beck himself in 2009.
The Colorado 9/12 Project hosted a "Patriot Camp" for kids in grades 1-5 earlier this month, featuring programs on "our Constitution, the Founding Fathers, and the values and principles that are the cornerstones of our nation."
And in August, the Danville, Kentucky, chapter is holding a "Vacation Liberty School" that organizers pledge "will help your children understand where we came from. Understand where we went wrong. Understand where the fork in the road was, and which path we should have taken."
From CNN
GenSeneca
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I asked 2 questions, both True or False, please answer them.
Openmind
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Sorry, everything is not "black and white" or "True or false!"
Simplifying this to the two extreme is ridiculous and actually very misleading. . .but you learn your lesson well from your Right wing spin machine!
In fact, what Beck implied was VERY disparaging and compared this youth group to one of the worse period of human history. . .when actually this youth group is exactly at the opposite end in terms of motivation and leadership.
As the New York Times reports:
"Into that void stepped Glenn Beck, who, with apparently little or no information about the victims, told listeners of his radio show that the conference of young activists “sounds a little like the Hitler Youth.”
“I mean, who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics? Disturbing.”
In response to that remark, John Nichols, who writes a blog for The Nation, explained that the young victims were from a Norwegian party whose members resisted and were persecuted by the Nazis. Mr. Nichols wrote:
The young people who gathered at the camp on the Norwegian island of Utoya were the opposite of Hitler Youth. In fact, they were the direct descendants, individually and ideologically, of the courageous young socialists who played such a vital role in the Norwegian resistance to the Nazis.
The campers who were attacked were members of the Norway’s Arbeidernes Ungdomsfylking (AUF), the Workers’ Youth League that is the youth wing of the country’s social democratic Labor Party. In the aftermath of World War II, the Oslo Trade Union Confederation purchased the island and gave it as a gift to the AUF in recognition of the sacrifices that young socialists had made in the struggle against fascism.
When Hitler’s Nazi armies invaded and occupied Norway in 1940, they banned the AUF and imprisoned its leader, Gunnar Sand. His successor as head of the AUF, Trygve Bratteli, led the Labor Party’s crisis committee following the Nazi invasion of Norway before his arrest by the Germans in 1942. Imprisoned in a series of concentration camps, he was liberated in April 1945. Bratteli returned to Norway as a hero who led the AUF in the postwar years and eventually became Norway’s prime minister.
Moving on from that historical context, what were the ideas of the young Norwegians on Utoya that led the attacker to single them out?
In the immediate aftermath of the attacker’s rampage, the leader of the young activists, Eskil Pedersen, told Norwegian television: “Although he took their lives away, he can never take away what they believed in and were passionate about. They believed in tolerance and antiracism.”
So, while this was a youth group gathered under the umbrella of the ruling political party, it was NOT in anyway related to the "nazi youth group."
However, the far right christian terrorist WAS close to the exteme right neo-nazi groups.
You are using "Hannity's" technique to try to bully people in either shutting up, instead of expressing their opinion, or agreeing with you in a misleading fashion by answering a NON question.
This is all the answer I care to give. What you think about Beck (and, by the way, I thought you didn't care about Beck, that you didn't care about this issue. . .you certainly are willing to give it a lot of time for something that you don't care about!) is immaterial to me.
Is my sarcasm really that subtle?
Beck's words:
Irrelevant, but true.
OMG! Are you seconding Glenn Beck's idiotic statement?
GenSeneca
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In the realm of reason and logic, everything is black and white.
I never claimed the two groups were related, neither did Beck.
Hopefully PLC has more intellectual courage than you have shown in regard to answering my simple questions.
Openmind
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If you see life in black and white. . .you are sorely lacking in nuance and your critical thinking skills cannot possibly be fully developed! NOTHING in this world (logic or not) is black or white, but it is all in various degrees of grey, and sepia!
You may not be happy with my "intellectual courage," but I am quite please with my ability to see the world under the full rainbow!
And, if you think that Beck didn't intend any spiteful reference, maybe instead of referring to "Nazi youth camps," he could have referred to his own "youth camps."
link: "politically-oriented camps are being organized in several U.S. states by chapters of the "9/12 Project" -- an organization founded by Beck himself in 2009."
GenSeneca
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I take that as meaning you agree the answer to both questions is "True", yet you do not consider yourself to have compared the "dead teenagers to Hitler Youth" by doing so.
I won't interrupt this Leftist circle jerk of Beck-Bashing any longer, enjoy the collective climax.
steveox
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Even the Pope was a member of Hitlers youth.
pope benedict xvi in left
pope benedict xvi in left
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Openmind
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Even the Pope was a member of Hitlers youth.
pope benedict xvi in left
Correct!
The Catholic Church and many Christians of the time didn't have much issue with Hitler's basic philosophy. . .until it became quite obvious to EVERYONE that his real plan was the extermination of a whole race, homosexuals, and just about anyone who didn't fit his "Arian" profile (which he, himself, didn't have by the way!)
