US government shutdown

How long will the shutdown last?

  • A few hours

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A few days

    Votes: 8 57.1%
  • A few weeks

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • Longer

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • Total voters
    14
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Late in the evening on September 30, 2013, the House Rules Committee Republicans changed the Rules of the House so that the ONLY Member allowed to call up the Senate's clean CR for a vote was Majority Leader Eric Cantor or his designee -- all but guaranteeing the government would shut down a few hours later and would stay shut down. Previously, any Member would have had the right to bring the CR up for a vote:

 
Just like the rules change in order to get the un-ACA through the House. It goes both ways you know.

As to the Senate, you should look again how many bills set to them were never called up for a vote, or even for debate. Most often because Harry Reid thought they might pass with a simple majority. Oh, the horror!
 
Guess Which President People in D.C. Blame for the Shutdown

The Media Research Center’s Dan Joseph on Wednesday released perhaps the most confusing video of 2013.

Why is it confusing? It features interviews with several people in Washington, D.C., who said former President George W. Bush is mostly responsible for the partial government shutdown.

Not President Barack Obama — George W. Bush.


Sheeple ...... Go Figure!
 
Trey Gowdy Goes Off on National Park Service Director for Treating Occupy Protesters Better Than Nation’s Veterans – Here’s His Case

During a U.S. House hearing concerning the closure of national parks and monuments during the partial government shutdown, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) scolded the director of the National Park Service for treating “pot-smoking” demonstrators in the Occupy movement with more respect than the nation’s war veterans.


If this "government shutdown" has done anything, I think it has exposed Obama's anti-American communist ideologies and just how much disdain he has for America, our veterans, our Founding, our exceptionalism and the American way of life!
 
The Senate is set to vote on it and then the House will bring it up for vote tonight.

I will be curious to see which R's vote for it.
 
The Senate is set to vote on it and then the House will bring it up for vote tonight.

I will be curious to see which R's vote for it.
The majority of R's are leftist with the exception of the TEA Party members and a few real conservatives. You can bet the vote will go down those lines!
 
Talk about disgusting :mad::mad:

Mitch McConnell Accused of Sneaking in $2 Billion ‘Kentucky Kickback’ in Budget, Debt Limit Deal

Included in the McConnell-Reid bill that ends the government shutdown, funds Obamacare and lifts the debt ceiling, is apparently a roughly $2 billion increase in the authorization for the Olmsted Lock and Dam project in Kentucky, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s home state.
Mr. Smith goes to Washington!

The majority of R's are leftist and have been on board with this all along. This was just a dog and pony show. If the federal government actually came out with the truth about it's agenda for this Country it would throw us into revolution.

It is much easier to pretend like there is some resistance ..... like this is a modest and legitimate move to communism, something that has come about through the democratic process, like Obamacare ..... however, it is a mock resistance I can assure you.
 
Good to see the financial criiss is over at least for a time. I won't have to swop my dollars for Youran
 
And now on to our debt...Washington Post Puts Up Misleading Video
I am going to show you a video which apparently targets the American masses and was produced with some sort of 8th grade audience in mind. It was posted on Huffington Post on (10/14/13) where all of the really smart people hang out.

This is the shit that Huffpo readers watch and this is what we are up against. So what's wrong with this deficit spending video produced by the Washington Post?

Please pay attention to the graphing that occurs right around the :46 mark. This is the visual aid that they employ to pacify the sheep who watch shit like this and think it is accurate. Note also how they say the United States has "always borrowed money" as though that makes borrowing seem normal and acceptable. (Please ignore the references made by the video about our poor, victim, President Obama. I mean after all, I clipped this from Huffpo) I hope this is it..

http://wapo.st/1eHq1NB

First of all, saying that the US has always had to borrow is not entirely accurate. The US has not always had to borrow to pay it's debts. In fact we went through an actual 30 year period where we didn't fight any wars and voila!!! We didn't have to borrow anything because we had no debt. 1830-1860.

Virtually all historical US borrowing has occurred because of wars. This piece, from The Atlantic, details our war spending very nicely, up until our current day. http://www.theatlantic.com/business...t-from-1790-to-2011-in-1-little-chart/265185/

If you simply read the Atlantic article, you are going to find that near the end of it- it makes this statement. You'll love this- this is the part where your government stole all of the money in the SS trust fund years ago- they note it but for some reason- still don't want to count it.

“Because on top of the roughly $11.4 trillion in US government debt, which can be bought and sold and is floating around in financial markets, there's also nearly $5 trillion in debt that the US government owes to itself. Those are largely obligations to the trust funds that are used to pay for programs such as Social Security. These aren't counted in debt-to-GDP charts published here, and are often excluded from such calculations. But if you did include this debt--and there's an argument to be made that we should, since the government is on the hook to pay these claims--the US debt-to-GDP ratio was just under 100% at the end of 2011.”


So why can't anybody draw an accurate chart showing today's real debt (16.7 trillion divided by 2012 14.99 trillion GDP= 111%) at the exact same level that we had just after WW2??

Why do they say- well we excluded the 5 trillion the government stole from Social Security so we don't include that in our graphs. Huh? How can you steal 5 trillion that is owed to American taxpayers and pretend that it doesn't exist?

This is the kind of bullshit that passes as journalism.

Either way, the people of this country don't get the truth. The real truth is that current government debt exceeds every historical measure that we have ever employed to measure it. It has never been this high. Period.

And unlike 1946, we don't have the capacity to pay the debt down. The real American economy, primarily corporations and 30 million manufacturing jobs, have all left the US. You can't squeeze trillions out of workers at McDonald's.

We are at a historical point in time where the debt will go supernova. Why? Because we are adding 340 billion dollars a year in interest expense ( at 2%) while watching principal amounts build. We have a giant demographic (boomers) all hitting the debit side of the ledger. Even if the government can somehow manage to hold interest rates steady- a much smaller taxpaying demographic will have to pick up the slack for a much larger retiring demographic. It only pencils out one way- and it's all bad.

If they don't slash and burn federal spending now, it's game over and the truth is- it might be game over anyway.

It kind of makes you wonder how they are going to graph our debt, 10 years from now doesn't it?

They'll think of something. They always do…..
 
The first time the country borrowed money to pay it's bills was $30 million in early 1900. We've been paying interest on that $30 million ever since.
 
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U.S. debt jumps a record $328 billion — tops $17 trillion for first time

U.S. debt jumped a record $328 billion on Thursday, the first day the federal government was able to borrow money under the deal President Obama and Congress sealed this week.

The debt now equals $17.075 trillion, according to figures the Treasury Department posted online on Friday.


Hmm ......

Maybe leaving the Government shut down wasn't such a bad idea after all .... keep in mind the government obligations were already funded during this shut down ... well with the exception of what Obama was refusing to fund!

This extra nearly 1 trillion dollars in debt is extra money for the government to waste.
Money that we cannot afford to pay back.. Money that our grandchildren will have to attempt to pay back in the form of crippling taxes ......

But, it's the TEA Party who is at fault for attempting to STOP this madness ...... Sheeples will believe anything!
 
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