Johnny Tremain
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I don't mean to pick on him, he's just saying such ridiculous things it's hard to believe he means it- sounds like he just wants to get people's goat. I guess he's being sincere, but I'm not sure I get the usefulness of his posts- they don't encourage discussion.
If you guys think people are just born bad, that's fine. But then the logical consequences of that belief are pretty nuts- if you're just "bad" then that means there's no hope, there's no options to take or anything. So what does society do with you? And is there "really bad" "bad" and "sorta bad" ? Who gets to make the decisions of what bad is? I'm sure my definition of bad differs from yours. Sure, killing another person, that's bad. Are you bad if you kill another person, but you happen to be a soldier in a war? You're still killing. We could go on and on.
Sometimes--you try to offer "what you can" to perhaps help others avoid traps and misconceptions you may have already suffered through. This is not done in any other way than to "help" others. It is "advice" worth precisely what you pay for it.
People are probably not born bad--but they do identify themselves early on in life.
Liberalism wants to keep giving them chances until they rape and murder a child, or your wife or daughter or son or Mom and dad.
Conservatives say--once identified--remove the violent from society.
Where you sequester them is the dilemma and how.
BUT--they MUST be sequestered or the carnage and horror--will continue.
It is why we had 3-time-loser laws--and should have them now.