Prove that God doesn't exist.

[Cheshire Cat]

I already told you Armchair, the only logical explanation is that it all goes back to one creator. Maybe we were created by aliens or something, but some had to created those aliens and so fourth, but it cannot go on forever because we exist in a finite realm, world, universe, (your choice of word here:___).

You still haven't explained where this mysterious creator of your came from.
What created your creator?

 

[ArmChair General]

"I dont know. Its ok to say that, you know."
--Of course. But, you admit that the universe is a THING. A thing that expands and retracts (therefore being subject to time=finite). Where did that THING come from? It couldn't just have existed forever.

Well I supose Id consider it more of a 'place' than a thing.

 

[Kelly]

The Only Logical Explanation Is That God Has Always Existed. Stop Asking The Same Question.

 

[ArmChair General]

The Only Logical Explanation Is That God Has Always Existed. Stop Asking The Same Question.

Thats not logical. You yourself just said, that everything has a beginning. So if everything has a beginning, who/what created the creator?

 

[Cheshire Cat]

The Only Logical Explanation Is That God Has Always Existed. Stop Asking The Same Question.

So, god could have always existed, but not the universe.
You must live in DOUBLE STANDARD LAND

 

[Kelly]

That's why (for those of you who give the Bible any credibility) God says He is the only being that transcends space and time. That's why God calls himself 'I who am' in the Bible. It's a reference to the fact (theory in your eyes) that God is the only thing that has no beginning and end--he just is.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

That's why (for those of you who give the Bible any credibility) God says He is the only being that transcends space and time. That's why God calls himself 'I who am' in the Bible. It's a reference to the fact (theory in your eyes) that God is the only thing that has no beginning and end--he just is.

Oh, this is good, use the fairy tale of the bible to prove your point.

BWWAAHAHAHAHA

 

[Kelly]

Cheshire, maybe God IS the universe. Haven't you ever heard of Pantheism? Probably not.

 

[ArmChair General]

That's why (for those of you who give the Bible any credibility) God says He is the only being that transcends space and time. That's why God calls himself 'I who am' in the Bible. It's a reference to the fact (theory in your eyes) that God is the only thing that has no beginning and end--he just is.

So what your saying is that, God exists because the Bible sais so?

 

[Kelly]

I'm not using the Bible for credibility. I was explaining WHY those quotes are IN the Bible, not that they're true just because they're IN the Bible. Learn to read!

 

[ArmChair General]

Cheshire, maybe God IS the universe. Haven't you ever heard of Pantheism? Probably not.

So you don't beileve in the Biblical God then? Your no longer a Monotheist?

make up your mind

 

[ArmChair General]

I'm not using the Bible for credibility. I was explaining WHY those quotes are IN the Bible, not that they're true just because they're IN the Bible. Learn to read!

Ok, so then whats your point? Thats like me bringing up a Dr Sues book and quoting in here. It has nothing to do with the discussion.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Cheshire, maybe God IS the universe. Haven't you ever heard of Pantheism? Probably not.

I've heard of it, not much different than Taoism. Just a new spin on an old idea.
The Scot's are best know for scotch, not philosophy.

 

[Kelly]

I KNOW that God exists. I BELIEVE that God is the same God in the Bible. I'm not saying that I'm proving the Bible, only that God exists. What you choose to believe (Bible, Koran, Damapaddah, etc) is only THAT belief. Philosophy (proving God's existence) starts with reasoning. Theology or religion starts with Faith (belief).

 

[Kelly]

Cheshire, Pantheism is just as old as Taoism. Admitt your ignorance!
Armchair, for someone who knows as much about history as you, why would you ever compare a book that contains so much history to a Dr. Seus book?